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Does Boston prefer Bowen over Daniels? (merged)
« on: August 03, 2009, 09:07:59 AM »

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http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13494

here is what i found interesting...boston is holding off on finalizing the daniels until they decide if bowen is more feasible...this report makes it sound like boston is going to decide between daniels and bowen for the bi-annual....i certainly dont like the idea of bringing bowen in instead of daniels...bowen should be offered a vet mini.:

According to published reports, a return to the Spurs appears "unlikely", while the Celtics are said to be holding off on signing free agent Marquis Daniels of the Indiana Pacers until management can decide if adding Bowen to their roster is more feasible.

On the same day Milwaukee waived Bowen, Boston declined to pick up the option on reserve point guard Gabe Pruitt, creating an open roster spot if they now choose to add a defensive presence that has been lacking since swingman James Posey exited town after the Celtics seized an NBA title in 2008.

Currently, Boston has a bi-annual exception estimated at $1.9 to apply to either Bowen or Daniels. But what is the deeper immediate need? Some believe that money should go towards a back-up point guard to Rajon Rondo, particularly now since the front office is hesitant to re-sign Stephon Marbury.

Others say the addition of Bowen would only help solidify Boston's team chemistry.

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Re: bowen over daniels???
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 09:10:10 AM »

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Ya I think I would much prefer Daniels to Bowen at this point in their careers. 
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Re: does boston prefer bowen over daniels???
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 09:24:25 AM »

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checked at Indy cornrows...they linked the story also...if boston takes bowen over daniels i think it is a huge mistake...bowen as PP primary back up? not going to work. it is getting obvious that boston wants to get daniels vis a sign and trade and since they are looking at bowen instead of daniels that they can't get that done for him...

i just don't like the idea of bowen being the back up for PP...that would signal that boston wants to work walker into the mix and that we are stuck with tony allen. but why waste the biannual on bowen?? 38 and OLD...i swear...this is starting to turn into last summer when ainge went on the cheap...

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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 09:32:57 AM »

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I think you're reading too much into "more feasible". That doesn't mean that they're not going to sign Daniels, but rather than if they can save the bi-annual to land Bowen they might reconsider their options.

Say they didn't want to give up a player to make the S&T happen. But that would mean they'd be out of the running for Bowen as the Celtics would then sign Daniels to the bi-annual. The Celtics might be more motivated to make a trade happen if they can also land Bowen.

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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2009, 09:35:25 AM »

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bowen isnt worth the biannual...he deserves the vet min. the way I read the report is that boston is looking to take either bowen or daniels...and the pacers blog read it that way also...i wouldn't mind adding both guys but i sure dont want bowen over daniels

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Hoopsworld has slipped quite a bit in the last few years, IMO. I wouldn't take anything they write as more or less possible than the better posters on CBlog...
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2009, 09:53:16 AM »

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Hoopsworld has slipped quite a bit in the last few years, IMO. I wouldn't take anything they write as more or less possible than the better posters on CBlog...

This is my problem with a lot of blogs these days.  They have the freedom to write whatever they want.  They often misconstrue, or outright make-up rumors and information in order to get hits (Hoopsworld does it ALL the time).  I will of course add that one of the reasons I love this blog so much is because Jeff always is extra careful about wording his posts well, to not misrepresent information to mean anything mroe than it is.

It is an absolutely baseless, and ridiculous speculation that Boston is holding off on signing Daniels because they think Bowen is more feasible, or better. 

First of all, the Celtics are committed to Daniels.  While Daniels could slip out of the verbal agreement if someone else offered more money, if Danny did it, it would essentially be career suicide, because no other agent would speak to him again. 

More importantly though, this guy is just overthinking it.  The reason Daniels isn't here yet is because Danny is trying to get him more money, and save his team some cash.  No more, no less.  Plus, Danny has been on vacation the last couple of weeks, and clearly has been taking his time, because he sees no reason to rush.  They have the main pieces of their team in place, and are just waiting to fill in some depth with vet minimum guys.  There is no reason to rush on that...especially since many of the players he wants for those positions are holding out to see if they can get any more money before committing anyways.


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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2009, 10:13:55 AM »

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Hoopsworld has slipped quite a bit in the last few years, IMO. I wouldn't take anything they write as more or less possible than the better posters on CBlog...

This is my problem with a lot of blogs these days.  They have the freedom to write whatever they want.  They often misconstrue, or outright make-up rumors and information in order to get hits (Hoopsworld does it ALL the time).  I will of course add that one of the reasons I love this blog so much is because Jeff always is extra careful about wording his posts well, to not misrepresent information to mean anything mroe than it is.

It is an absolutely baseless, and ridiculous speculation that Boston is holding off on signing Daniels because they think Bowen is more feasible, or better. 

First of all, the Celtics are committed to Daniels.  While Daniels could slip out of the verbal agreement if someone else offered more money, if Danny did it, it would essentially be career suicide, because no other agent would speak to him again. 

More importantly though, this guy is just overthinking it.  The reason Daniels isn't here yet is because Danny is trying to get him more money, and save his team some cash.  No more, no less.  Plus, Danny has been on vacation the last couple of weeks, and clearly has been taking his time, because he sees no reason to rush.  They have the main pieces of their team in place, and are just waiting to fill in some depth with vet minimum guys.  There is no reason to rush on that...especially since many of the players he wants for those positions are holding out to see if they can get any more money before committing anyways.


I have to agree.  Also, hasn't Danny already commented on Daniels?  I know I read at least on Celtic comment on him.  It might have been Scal.  But I thought I read something about Danny saying they didn't need Pruitt because Daniels would be playing some point guard.

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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2009, 10:21:34 AM »

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Hoopsworld has slipped quite a bit in the last few years, IMO. I wouldn't take anything they write as more or less possible than the better posters on CBlog...

This is my problem with a lot of blogs these days.  They have the freedom to write whatever they want.  They often misconstrue, or outright make-up rumors and information in order to get hits (Hoopsworld does it ALL the time).  I will of course add that one of the reasons I love this blog so much is because Jeff always is extra careful about wording his posts well, to not misrepresent information to mean anything mroe than it is.

It is an absolutely baseless, and ridiculous speculation that Boston is holding off on signing Daniels because they think Bowen is more feasible, or better. 

First of all, the Celtics are committed to Daniels.  While Daniels could slip out of the verbal agreement if someone else offered more money, if Danny did it, it would essentially be career suicide, because no other agent would speak to him again. 

More importantly though, this guy is just overthinking it.  The reason Daniels isn't here yet is because Danny is trying to get him more money, and save his team some cash.  No more, no less.  Plus, Danny has been on vacation the last couple of weeks, and clearly has been taking his time, because he sees no reason to rush.  They have the main pieces of their team in place, and are just waiting to fill in some depth with vet minimum guys.  There is no reason to rush on that...especially since many of the players he wants for those positions are holding out to see if they can get any more money before committing anyways.


I have to agree.  Also, hasn't Danny already commented on Daniels?  I know I read at least on Celtic comment on him.  It might have been Scal.  But I thought I read something about Danny saying they didn't need Pruitt because Daniels would be playing some point guard.

Yes, both Danny and Scal have commented on him, speaking as if he is already a member of the team. 

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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2009, 10:23:28 AM »

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This seems like a totally baseless story.  If anything, Danny would be looking to add Bowen to Daniels instead of using him as some sort of replacement for him.

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2009, 10:25:20 AM »

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I really really hope that the Celtics don't sign Bowen.  I like Daniels and think he'd be a good fit, but I'd take a lot of players over Bowen.  He is one dimensional (defensive) and old, which is causing that one dimension to slip and him to overcompensate with dirty tricks.  Why bring in one of the only players in the NBA that Ray Allen hates? (The other being Kobe).

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2009, 10:27:38 AM »

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38yo Bowen replacing 28yo Daniels  ;D ;D ;D What a joke!

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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2009, 10:39:29 AM »

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seriously what is teh fascination with Bruce Bowen.  His defense has slipped and his jumper has gone flat. Oh yeah and by the way he is 38.  I dont get it.  The last thing we need is another player in their mid to late 30s

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I really really hope that the Celtics don't sign Bowen.  I like Daniels and think he'd be a good fit, but I'd take a lot of players over Bowen.  He is one dimensional (defensive) and old, which is causing that one dimension to slip and him to overcompensate with dirty tricks.  Why bring in one of the only players in the NBA that Ray Allen hates? (The other being Kobe).

Grrr.

Actually, he is 2 dimensional.  He can defend (even though he has lost a step, he is still an above average defender, and comes from a system that is similar to Boston's), and he can shoot the 3.  Those are two things they really needed on the bench.

Ultimately though, Bowen would be an 11th man.  He would only play a few minutes per game, and basically be some insurance other than Walker and Giddens for injuries on the wing.


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