Can KG be the best scorer on a championship team?

[Roy Hobbs]

Lets ask the real question Hobbs,

How would KG's team fair, with him as the leading scorer and no other scorers around him? Take away Ray Allen and Paul Pierce for instance, would that team have success?

How would *any* player fare, with him being the leading scorer and no other scorers around him?

[JSD]

Lets ask the real question Hobbs,

How would KG's team fair, with him as the leading scorer and no other scorers around him? Take away Ray Allen and Paul Pierce for instance, would that team have success?

How would *any* player fare, with him being the leading scorer and no other scorers around him?

Good point Hobbs  gooooooood point. thank you

[Rondo2287]

My bad wrong thread

[indeedproceed]

You are really going to say that two guys that averaged 17 points a game are "not scorers"?

This is the problem with talking draft stuff and relating it back to real NBA stuff.

Clarification: Are we still talking about your Fantasy team, or are we talking about the 2004 T-Wolves with Cassell and Spewell?

[Jon]

However, I do question whether he could be the "best scorer" if we define "best scorer" as the guy you go to in the fourth quarter.  

. . . Overall, I think Garnett is the best player on the team.  But I don't totally trust him as a go-to scorer in the 4th quarter.

KG was our leading fourth quarter scorer in our championship run.

But I don't think "leading fourth quarter scorer" and "go to scorer" are necessarily synonymous.  

How many of those were open jumpers on kickouts from a Pierce or Rondo penetration?  How many were dunks off faked Ray Allen trey that he dumped to KG below?  

[BballTim]

Lets ask the real question Hobbs,

How would KG's team fair, with him as the leading scorer and no other scorers around him? Take away Ray Allen and Paul Pierce for instance, would that team have success?

  Probably similar success to what the team would accomplish if you took away the big three and added in Kobe, LeBron, Wade or a younger TD.

[Rondo2287]

However, I do question whether he could be the "best scorer" if we define "best scorer" as the guy you go to in the fourth quarter.  

. . . Overall, I think Garnett is the best player on the team.  But I don't totally trust him as a go-to scorer in the 4th quarter.

KG was our leading fourth quarter scorer in our championship run.

But I don't think "leading fourth quarter scorer" and "go to scorer" are necessarily synonymous.  

How many of those were open jumpers on kickouts from a Pierce or Rondo penetration?  How many were dunks off faked Ray Allen trey that he dumped to KG below?  

But in all those scenarios KG knows exactly where to be in order to give him a good look and give the team a chance to win in the 4th quarter.  It's all about the flow of an offense and dont you think that if drives and dishes are part of an offense the person who is being dished to is the go to for that play?

[Fafnir]

However, I do question whether he could be the "best scorer" if we define "best scorer" as the guy you go to in the fourth quarter.  

. . . Overall, I think Garnett is the best player on the team.  But I don't totally trust him as a go-to scorer in the 4th quarter.

KG was our leading fourth quarter scorer in our championship run.

KG was our leading scorer in the playoffs, which is what really matters for elite teams.

So yes KG can be the leading scorer on a title team.

[Fafnir]

However, I do question whether he could be the "best scorer" if we define "best scorer" as the guy you go to in the fourth quarter.  

. . . Overall, I think Garnett is the best player on the team.  But I don't totally trust him as a go-to scorer in the 4th quarter.

KG was our leading fourth quarter scorer in our championship run.

But I don't think "leading fourth quarter scorer" and "go to scorer" are necessarily synonymous.  

How many of those were open jumpers on kickouts from a Pierce or Rondo penetration?  How many were dunks off faked Ray Allen trey that he dumped to KG below?  

KG creates just as much offense for them with his excellent screens, spacing he creates, and passing out of the post.

Go watch playoff tapes of 2008 and 2009, KG being there makes our offense much better for the entire team.

[wdleehi]

Can he?  Of course. 



But the nice thing in Boston is he doesn't have to be. 


Also, don't forget, KG in the post is still the biggest double team draw the Celtics have.  And from that position, he is the best offensive weapon the Celtics have.  He can beat anyone one on one.  And he can beat any double team with his vision and passing. 

[Fan from VT]

Considering that the leading scorers on 2004 Detroit looked like this:

1     Richard Hamilton 17.6
2    Chauncey Billups 16.9
3    Rasheed Wallace 13.7
4    Tayshaun Prince 10.3
5    Mehmet Okur    9.6
6    Corliss Williamson 9.5
7    Ben Wallace    9.5
8    Mike James    6.3
9    Chucky Atkins    6.2
10    Elden Campbell    5.6


I'd say that it's 100% fact to say that "at some point during his career KG could have been the best scorer on a title team." Heck, looking at that he'd still have a shot (a very very long one) at still being the leading scorer on a title team, as long as there's 4 other starters in the 12-15 range (I don't see KG averaging more than 16-17 ppg at most for the rest of his career), and some bench players in the 9-12 range.

In general, though, I'm in the camp that from this point on, KG doesn't realistically have a shot at leading a championship team in scoring, but that from his rookie year to 2008 he definitely could have been, with a couple different roster moves, etc.

[xmuscularghandix]

KG can be the leading scorer on a championship team, i think his assist numbers could help.

Be aggressive with KG early so he commands the double team, then let isolate and dish to Rondo/Allen/Pierce/Wallace.

I think the real knock is his "clutchness", I'd rather Ray, Sheed and Paul take the last shot over KG... even if its from mid-range.

[mgent]

This is dumb.  KG doesn't have to score.  Paul can take his shots and Perk can play the post.  The only thing we NEED him to do is play defense.
KG 16ppg
Ray 18ppg
Paul 20ppg
Rondo 14ppg
Perk 10ppg
That's a championship team.
If KG wasn't on this team he could easily average 22ppg, more than enough to lead a team.

[Kwhit10]

Lets ask the real question Hobbs,

How would KG's team fair, with him as the leading scorer and no other scorers around him? Take away Ray Allen and Paul Pierce for instance, would that team have success?

How would *any* player fare, with him being the leading scorer and no other scorers around him?

Good point Hobbs  gooooooood point. thank you

The thing is right now it doesn't look like there are any 'real' scorers as you would say.  But if he is the #1 scorer with no one else, at the end of the year you would see two other players 'pick up some slack' so to say, and then you would call them scorers.  If he is the only #1 guy some players averages would probably jump that you wouldn't think so looking at stats from previous years.

[angryguy77]

He cant lead in points because that would limit touches for scal