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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1020 on: August 12, 2009, 11:56:28 PM »

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1021 on: August 13, 2009, 12:11:59 AM »

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WD: Toughest place to assign a team, easiest choice to assign a team

Also: Team most likely to prove you wrong by mid season

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1022 on: August 13, 2009, 12:16:22 AM »

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Anyone else going to vote?   

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WD: Toughest place to assign a team, easiest choice to assign a team

Also: Team most likely to prove you wrong by mid season

Hardest was Detroit.  I originally thought they were a playoff team.  Then something about Cleveland jumped out at me.  Easiest was Orlando.  Lebron James is a one man regular season winning machine. 


Team most likely to prove me wrong?  Not possible.   ;)

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1023 on: August 13, 2009, 12:16:42 AM »

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Shocked to see the Pistons not even make the playoffs on Denver's ballot.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
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Shocked to see the Pistons not even make the playoffs on Denver's ballot.
More shocking New York is a top 5 team ::)

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1025 on: August 13, 2009, 12:20:18 AM »

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Shocked to see the Pistons not even make the playoffs on Denver's ballot.
More shocking New York is a top 5 team ::)

 I have them winning the Atlantic.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1026 on: August 13, 2009, 12:21:30 AM »

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Shocked to see the Pistons not even make the playoffs on Denver's ballot.


Just don't trust Amare to play the defense needed or stay healthy long enough. 

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1027 on: August 13, 2009, 12:51:00 AM »

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WD: Toughest place to assign a team, easiest choice to assign a team

Also: Team most likely to prove you wrong by mid season

Hardest was Detroit.  I originally thought they were a playoff team.  Then something about Cleveland jumped out at me.  Easiest was Orlando.  Lebron James is a one man regular season winning machine. 


Team most likely to prove me wrong?  Not possible.   ;)


IP, same questions.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1028 on: August 13, 2009, 01:05:07 AM »

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I know everyone worked pretty hard on their drafts and press conferences so I want people to know I didn't do any of this haphazardly.

What I looked for in a team: More than anything, I want it to fit into a place I think they're work in a night in, night out basis. I was looking for a clear rotation strategy, and obvious contruction maximizing the talent they had. I'm a big believer that just smushing talent together on a 15 man roster ends poorly. With that said, the rankings.

1(Southeast Division): Orlando
-Lebron has shown he's capable of carrying a team to the playoffs. I don't nessecarily have this team leaving the East behind for the finals, but with the very well constructed supporting cast and big man depth they're a clear choice for #1 for me.
2(Atlantic Division): Toronto
-I didn't want to do this for consistency's sake, in part because I have been fairly critical of this team. In the end though I believe in a roster that fits, and with big depth to rival Orlando's, their roster fits. They've got the depth, the experience, and the defense and that can't be discounted.
3(Central Division): Chicago
-Chris Paul gets this team to the playoffs. That much is clear. Pau Gasol, Al Horford, and Kevin Martin gets them the division. I don't like the way the wings fit, I don't like the reserves on the wings, I don't like most of the bench, but Paul Martin Horford and Gasol is too much talent that works together to ignore.
4: Detroit
-Great starting 5, decent bench. I think they're a better 'fit' team than Chicago, but they're not as talented. I would be surprised to see the two teams records separted by more than 2 or three wins.
5: Boston
-I believe in: Wade, Nene, Chris Andersen, Prince as a bench player; I don't believe in: Barbosa, R Butler, Jeffries, Hayes, Stackhouse, or Miles. I like the Alston fit. I don't think they're better than Toronto.
6: Philadelphia
-Another Atlantic team. I think Baron Davis would give it his all here, and between B Diddy and Melo there is enough for the 8th seed. Okafor, Brewer, Parker, Joe Smith, Hunter, and Elson make me bump them up a couple of spots.
7: Washington
-This team was hard. Honestly, it came down to depth at the 3, and Stephen Jackson's fit at the 2. I think this team will face mismatches on a daily night. Ironically one of them won't be Orlando. If Washington gets Orlando in the first round of the playoffs, I might not go with Lebron. This team was constructed to beat Lebron.
8: New Jersey
-I didn't want to put any team that started Sheed and Brand in the front court too high. I think in the end NJ bet on the wrong grey mares. I also didn't think any team with Sheed, Brand and Pierce could possibly miss the playoffs.
9: New York
-blah blah blah press conferences. I voted NY out of the playoffs because they start Nenad Krstic and Marvin Williams. They just missed the playoffs though because they have a the most complete 10 in the conference. I think if Krstic plays like NY's GM thinks he can play this team will make the playoffs, but I'm skeptical. Well constructed team, but in the end I didn't buy the talent.
10: Cleveland
-I really wanted to put these guys in the playoffs. Like WD said, something about them stands out. Maybe its the talent. In the end I dont think they have the tall guys to compete with consistency every night, and I think David West is a Chris Paul product, not a David West talent, if that makes sense.
11: Indiana
-If they had parlayed Ricky Rubio into a better talent that works starting now, and Von Wafer wasn't playing over seas, this team could be as high as 7 or 8. I'm not down on them from 2-4, but starting Kurt Thomas hurts.
12: Milwaukee
-I don't beleive in Stuckey or JR as starters, and I think the bench is a little too weak. I love Durant but I couldn't put them higher.
13: Atlanta
-10 players, 3 of which hurt their team more than they help their team, or they saw exactly zero mins last season despite being healthy. Can't win that many games this way, no matter how good the starting 5 is, and I don't know how the whole Iverson deal works.
14: Miami
-Lots of young players, exactly one guy who has a NBA proven identity. Hint: its not Tyrus Thomas. Not this year, maybe next year.
15: Charlotte
-See above.

Easiest: Orlando. WD summed it up well
Toughest: Cleveland, Washington and NY. They could all be conference contenders, or not. Hard teams to really predict.
Team most likely to make me look foolish: New Jersey. If Sheed and Brand really come to play this year and both stay healthy this is a top 3 team.

That's it. If you're happy, consider it a favor. If you're not, don't take it personally.

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1029 on: August 13, 2009, 01:34:09 AM »

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So this is the thread we go to now to prove that our votes weren't strategic or retaliatory?
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity...

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1030 on: August 13, 2009, 01:48:43 AM »

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So this is the thread we go to now to prove that our votes weren't strategic or retaliatory?

Prove or pretend. Yeah. ;)

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1031 on: August 13, 2009, 01:53:23 AM »

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1032 on: August 13, 2009, 02:05:44 AM »

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I swear to god
I never thought a thing more than this one
even in my job this year...lol

p.s.
really i am stunned why my picks are so similar to other people posting before me

I AM!!

really
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1033 on: August 13, 2009, 02:07:10 AM »

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first analysis wxample
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Boston Celtics (Jsaad)- Dwayne Wade, Nene, Antonio McDyess, Chris Anderson, Leandro Barbosa, Rafer Alston, Rasaul Butler, Jared Jeffries, Tayshaun Prince, Jarvis Hayes,, Jerry Stackhouse, Will Bynum, Darius Miles
Boston press conference: Link.   8

New Jersey Nets (bdm860)- Paul Pierce, Elton Brand, Rasheed Wallace, Courtney Lee, Derek Fisher, James Posey, Drew Gooden, Beno Udrih, Eddy Curry, Shannon Brown, Kwame Brown, Bill Walker, Patrick Ewing Jr.
New Jersey press conference:  Link. 8

New York Knicks (LEAHYISGOD)- Deron Williams, Vince Carter, Kendrick Perkins, Marvin Williams, Nenad Krstic, Jason Maxiell, Thabo Sefolosha, Keyon Dooling, Luke Walton, Rasho Nesterovic, Greg Buckner, DeMarre Carroll, Rodrigue Beaubois, Victor Claver, Toney Douglas

New York press conference: Link.  6

Philadelphia 76ers (kwhit10)- Carmelo Anthony, Andrew Bynum, Baron Davis, Emeka Okafor, Ronnie Brewer, Anthony Parker, Renaldo Balkman, Janerro Pargo, Steve Novak, Joe Smith, Lindsey Hunter, Francisco Elson, Joey Graham, Will Solomon, Tim Thomas,
Philadelphia press conference: Link. 8.5

Cleveland Cavaliers (ChampKind)- Devin Harris, David West, Andrew Bogut, Mike Miller, Jamal Crawford, Carl Landry, Andrey Blatche, Lou Williams, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Charlie Bell, Brandon Rush, Ike Diogu, Joe Alexander, Kyle Weaver, Pops Mensah-Bonsu
Cleveland Press Conference: Link 6


Detroit Pistons (Celtic Fan Forever)- Tyson Chandler, Nazr Mohammed, Robert Swift, Amare Stoudemire, Stromile Swift, Eduardo Najera, Rudy Gay, Rodney Carney, Dorrell Wright, OJ Mayo, Mo Evans, Juan Dixon, Earl Watson, Shaun Livingston, Stephon Marbury
Detroit Press Conference: Link 6


Indiana Pacers (StartOrien)- Gilbert Arenas, Ricky Rubio, Marcus Williams, Andre Igoudala, Von Wafer, Quincy Douby, Shane Battier, Terrance Williams, Donte Greene, Lamarcus Alridge, Channing Frye, Joey Dorsey, Kurt Thomas, Jamal Magloire
Indiana Press Conference: Link   7
7
Milwaukee Bucks (bucknersrevenge)- Kevin Durant, Paul Millsap, J.R. Smith, Rodney Stuckey, Brendan Haywood, Jamario Moon, Luke Ridnour, Ben Wallace, Tyler Hansborough, Rashad McCants, Tony Battie, Anthony Johnson, JR Giddens, Sean May, Marko Jaric
Milwaukee Press Conference: Link















Atlanta Hawks (Gomesfan)- Danny Granger, Jose Calderon, Tracy McGrady, Troy Murphy, Allen Iverson, Roy Hibbert, Kyle Lowry, Ricky Davis, Dan Gadzuric, Morris Peterson
Atlanta press conference: Pending  7


Charlotte Bobcats (Tradetime)- Stephon Curry, Darren Collison, Patty Mills, Wayne Ellington, Christian Eyenga, Jermaine Taylor, Caron Butler, Danny Green, Blake Griffin, Jeff Pendergraph, Javale McGee, BJ Mullens.
Charlotte press conference: Link
Miami/Cuba Heat (celtsrp33)- Raymond Felton, Nick Young, Travis Outlaw, Tyrus Thomas, Spencer Hawes, James Harden, Marreese Speights, Nicolas Batum, Marcus Banks, Acie Law IV, JJ Redick, Yi Jianlian, Kyle Fesenko, Jordan Hill, Jason Collins
Cuba press conference: Link
Orlando press conference:  Link
Washington Boxers (nickagneta)- Stephen Jackson, Ramon Sessions, Gerald Wallace, Luis Scola, Joel Pryzbilla, George Hill, Anthony Morrow, Julian Wright, Darko Milicic, Dan Gadzuric, Tyronne Lue, Juwan Howard, Kris Humphries, Gerald Green, Alexis Ajinca


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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #1034 on: August 13, 2009, 02:08:04 AM »

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second analysis example
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Boston Celtics (Jsaad)- Dwayne Wade, Nene, Antonio McDyess, Chris Anderson, Leandro Barbosa, Rafer Alston, Rasaul Butler, Jared Jeffries, Tayshaun Prince, Jarvis Hayes,, Jerry Stackhouse, Will Bynum, Darius Miles
Boston press conference: Link.   8

New Jersey Nets (bdm860)- Paul Pierce, Elton Brand, Rasheed Wallace, Courtney Lee, Derek Fisher, James Posey, Drew Gooden, Beno Udrih, Eddy Curry, Shannon Brown, Kwame Brown, Bill Walker, Patrick Ewing Jr.
New Jersey press conference:  Link. 8


Philadelphia 76ers (kwhit10)- Carmelo Anthony, Andrew Bynum, Baron Davis, Emeka Okafor, Ronnie Brewer, Anthony Parker, Renaldo Balkman, Janerro Pargo, Steve Novak, Joe Smith, Lindsey Hunter, Francisco Elson, Joey Graham, Will Solomon, Tim Thomas,
Philadelphia press conference: Link. 8.5


Washington Boxers (nickagneta)- Stephen Jackson, Ramon Sessions, Gerald Wallace, Luis Scola, Joel Pryzbilla, George Hill, Anthony Morrow, Julian Wright, Darko Milicic, Dan Gadzuric, Tyronne Lue, Juwan Howard, Kris Humphries, Gerald Green, Alexis Ajinca  7

Indiana Pacers (StartOrien)- Gilbert Arenas, Ricky Rubio, Marcus Williams, Andre Igoudala, Von Wafer, Quincy Douby, Shane Battier, Terrance Williams, Donte Greene, Lamarcus Alridge, Channing Frye, Joey Dorsey, Kurt Thomas, Jamal Magloire
Indiana Press Conference: Link   7
7
Milwaukee Bucks (bucknersrevenge)- Kevin Durant, Paul Millsap, J.R. Smith, Rodney Stuckey, Brendan Haywood, Jamario Moon, Luke Ridnour, Ben Wallace, Tyler Hansborough, Rashad McCants, Tony Battie, Anthony Johnson, JR Giddens, Sean May, Marko Jaric
Milwaukee Press Conference: Link




New York Knicks (LEAHYISGOD)- Deron Williams, Vince Carter, Kendrick Perkins, Marvin Williams, Nenad Krstic, Jason Maxiell, Thabo Sefolosha, Keyon Dooling, Luke Walton, Rasho Nesterovic, Greg Buckner, DeMarre Carroll, Rodrigue Beaubois, Victor Claver, Toney Douglas

New York press conference: Link.  6




Cleveland Cavaliers (ChampKind)- Devin Harris, David West, Andrew Bogut, Mike Miller, Jamal Crawford, Carl Landry, Andrey Blatche, Lou Williams, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Charlie Bell, Brandon Rush, Ike Diogu, Joe Alexander, Kyle Weaver, Pops Mensah-Bonsu
Cleveland Press Conference: Link 6


Detroit Pistons (Celtic Fan Forever)- Tyson Chandler, Nazr Mohammed, Robert Swift, Amare Stoudemire, Stromile Swift, Eduardo Najera, Rudy Gay, Rodney Carney, Dorrell Wright, OJ Mayo, Mo Evans, Juan Dixon, Earl Watson, Shaun Livingston, Stephon Marbury
Detroit Press Conference: Link 6








Atlanta Hawks (Gomesfan)- Danny Granger, Jose Calderon, Tracy McGrady, Troy Murphy, Allen Iverson, Roy Hibbert, Kyle Lowry, Ricky Davis, Dan Gadzuric, Morris Peterson
Atlanta press conference: Pending  7


Charlotte Bobcats (Tradetime)- Stephon Curry, Darren Collison, Patty Mills, Wayne Ellington, Christian Eyenga, Jermaine Taylor, Caron Butler, Danny Green, Blake Griffin, Jeff Pendergraph, Javale McGee, BJ Mullens.  2
Charlotte press conference: Link
Miami/Cuba Heat (celtsrp33)- Raymond Felton, Nick Young, Travis Outlaw, Tyrus Thomas, Spencer Hawes, James Harden, Marreese Speights, Nicolas Batum, Marcus Banks, Acie Law IV, JJ Redick, Yi Jianlian, Kyle Fesenko, Jordan Hill, Jason Collins
Cuba press conference: Link   2
Orlando press conference:  Link


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