2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[johnnyrondo]

Hes a legit NBA player which is more than can be said for half your bench. 

Ask the real Bulls, Pistons or Rockets if any of them would trade their rookie for Belinelli?  If they end up being our 10-12th we're fine with that.

[Rondo2287]

Hes a legit NBA player which is more than can be said for half your bench. 

Ask the real Bulls, Pistons or Rockets if any of them would trade their rookie for Belinelli?  If they end up being our 10-12th we're fine with that.

Danny ainge said, I wouldent trade Walker, Giddens or Pruitt for anybody in the middle of the draft this year, and thats who you chose to stock your team with. 

[johnnyrondo]

Hes a legit NBA player which is more than can be said for half your bench. 

Ask the real Bulls, Pistons or Rockets if any of them would trade their rookie for Belinelli?  If they end up being our 10-12th we're fine with that.

Danny ainge said, I wouldent trade Walker, Giddens or Pruitt for anybody in the middle of the draft this year, and thats who you chose to stock your team with. 

And Danny also loves Swift (who I ironically have). He also tried to trade a package of players including those three to get a second round pick to draft Buddinger. Danny also just cut Pruitt. Danny says a lot of stuff. he said Erden would be like our first rounder this yr. We are fine with stocking the end of our bench with rookies. The fans like the dunks in garbage time when we're up by 30 

[Rondo2287]

Hey everybody, I guess I kinda wanted to throw this out there and see what you all thought. 

I hate Varejao with a passion, and I think that is why I wanted him on my team.  As I am sure many of you hate him too I am wondering why it is.  I think I hate him because he hustles, plays with passion, complains, flops and looks weird.  All of which i would admire if he played for the celts.(including lookin weird, Im a big delonte fan too!)  I guess my question is, if you hate him, does it have more to do with his numbers and abilities or personal reasons

[indeedproceed]

Well played, Rondo. Viral marketing..I like it. Get the people talking, huh?

I don't hate AV, but this late in the game most people have trimmed their benches so if they did have two legit starters at one point, they don't anymore.

Well I do hate AV, but I also respect him. Personally hate him, objectively think he's a decent player. Not worth a starter where a team doesn't have the depth though.

EDIT: As in sometimes its worth the gamble that you can get a replacement starter. but this late you'd need a heckuva deal to do something like that.

[Rondo2287]

Well played, Rondo. Viral marketing..I like it. Get the people talking, huh?

I don't hate AV, but this late in the game most people have trimmed their benches so if they did have two legit starters at one point, they don't anymore.

Well I do hate AV, but I also respect him. Personally hate him, objectively think he's a decent player. Not worth a starter where a team doesn't have the depth though.

Jeezzzz way to call me out.  But seriously, I mean ya I am looking to move him idealy for a SG but as people can tell you I wont take just any SG for him, I do have a pretty high view of AV and his game, I would say he is up there with Powe in drawing charges which is something I always admire in a defender.  I mean not only does your team get possession but its a personal foul too, double whammy, and better than a steal if you ask me

[indeedproceed]

Well played, Rondo. Viral marketing..I like it. Get the people talking, huh?

I don't hate AV, but this late in the game most people have trimmed their benches so if they did have two legit starters at one point, they don't anymore.

Well I do hate AV, but I also respect him. Personally hate him, objectively think he's a decent player. Not worth a starter where a team doesn't have the depth though.

Jeezzzz way to call me out.  But seriously, I mean ya I am looking to move him idealy for a SG but as people can tell you I wont take just any SG for him, I do have a pretty high view of AV and his game, I would say he is up there with Powe in drawing charges which is something I always admire in a defender.  I mean not only does your team get possession but its a personal foul too, double whammy, and better than a steal if you ask me

All true. We'd deify him if he played for the Celtics. He's the definition of hustle. Maybe a little bit overpayed in real life, but that's irrelevant for our purposes...this year...

[Rondo2287]

So for the sake of Argument, If somebody in this league were trying to build the, "All Man Crush Team," for this past offseason who would be on it. 

C:Gortat
PF:Birdman
SF:Nocioni???  Grant Hill??
SG:Anthony carter??
Pg:

[wdleehi]

So for the sake of Argument, If somebody in this league were trying to build the, "All Man Crush Team," for this past offseason who would be on it. 

C:Gortat
PF:Birdman
SF:Nocioni???  Grant Hill??
SG:Anthony carter??
Pg:

PG Marbury

[indeedproceed]

So for the sake of Argument, If somebody in this league were trying to build the, "All Man Crush Team," for this past offseason who would be on it. 

C:Gortat
PF:Birdman
SF:Nocioni???  Grant Hill??
SG:Anthony carter??
Pg:

I would like a definition of man-crush in this context.

Do you mean players that are getting more than they probably deserve?

In that case:

Gortat
Birdman
Odom
Ariza
Sessions

[Roy Hobbs]

So for the sake of Argument, If somebody in this league were trying to build the, "All Man Crush Team," for this past offseason who would be on it. 

C:Gortat
PF:Birdman
SF:Nocioni???  Grant Hill??
SG:Anthony carter??
Pg:

SF: Jamario Moon, probably.  Move Hill to SG, and Starbury at PG.

[Rondo2287]

So for the sake of Argument, If somebody in this league were trying to build the, "All Man Crush Team," for this past offseason who would be on it. 

C:Gortat
PF:Birdman
SF:Nocioni???  Grant Hill??
SG:Anthony carter??
Pg:

I would like a definition of man-crush in this context.

Do you mean players that are getting more than they probably deserve?

In that case:

Gortat
Birdman
Odom
Ariza
Sessions

Not necesarilly more than they deserve although I do think its the case for some of these, probably just flavors of the week.  It always seems like every offseason there are those guys that our team "Needs" to get to compete and then they sign elsewhere and arent heard from again. 

[indeedproceed]

So for the sake of Argument, If somebody in this league were trying to build the, "All Man Crush Team," for this past offseason who would be on it. 

C:Gortat
PF:Birdman
SF:Nocioni???  Grant Hill??
SG:Anthony carter??
Pg:

I would like a definition of man-crush in this context.

Do you mean players that are getting more than they probably deserve?

In that case:

Gortat
Birdman
Odom
Ariza
Sessions

Not necesarilly more than they deserve although I do think its the case for some of these, probably just flavors of the week.  It always seems like every offseason there are those guys that our team "Needs" to get to compete and then they sign elsewhere and arent heard from again. 

I know it was you, Grant Hill, you broke my heart.

[The Walker Wiggle]

PF Anthony Randolph/ DeJuan Blair/ Earl Clark
SF Grant Hill/ Andres Nocioni/ DaJuan Summers
C Chris Bosh/ David Andersen/ Jonas Jerebeko
SG Joe Johnson/ Bobby Jackson/ Marcus Thornton
PG Monta Ellis/ D.J. Augustin/ Mike Taylor

IR Leon Powe

I would like your team better if you started D.J. Augustin at PG and used Ellis as the scoring machine he is off the bench.

What will stop your team is your big man rotation.  Love Bosh, but not as a C and biggest man on the team. 

Your PFs are to much of an NBA unknown to win in voting.

I appreciate it. Here’s what I’d say in Houston’s defense. Starting three Top 30 NBA scorers presents serious challenges for opposing defenses. (Is Houston alone in doing so? I’d be thrilled. But I’m not sure?) Ellis is our penetrator; a menace in the open court, and like Bosh, he gets to the line a lot. (To counter both real and perceived frontcourt disadvantages Houston wants to get opposing big men into foul trouble early and often.)

I am high on Augustin, especially as a 7th round pick, and love having a more traditional point guard to go to, off the bench. And I agree he can be an NBA starter.

I’ll continue to make my case for my frontcourt rotation. But I’ll keep it short here, and just point out that David Andersen is the “biggest man on the team.” Bosh is third, or could be counted fourth if we include DeJuan Blair's power per pound in the discussion. And I wonder if you counted Nocioni among my front court players, he splits his time evenly among the 3 and 4? (And, get this, also Center in his time in Sacramento last season, although even the Rockets aren’t that desperate).

I’d also love to know if a full recovery by Powe in time for the playoffs would change Denver’s mind much? I’m optimistic, but admit it’s far from guaranteed. He would give us the playoff-tested low post scorer we otherwise lack.

[Rondo2287]

Updated Toronto Roster
Pg:Miller/Watson/Maynor
SG:Garcia/Belinelli
SF:Artest/Finley/Koralev
PF:Garnett/Oberto
C: Camby/Big Z