2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[indeedproceed]

That's cool.  In the "fake" NBA, Portland's roster has been fitted with adamantium skeletons.  (We're staying silent about whether it's with or without claws, but I'd suggest people not make us mad).

Disclaimer:  such skeletons are subject to removal should we ever decide to trade any of our players.

For those of you not up on your Celticsblog draft history, Hobbs developed the "T.J. Ford gambit" last season.

I just like Portland and Buffalo better.

Right now, I thinks its Portland than Buffalo in the West.

And in regards to Portland and Buffalo’s blossoming love affair. Is the rest of the Western Conference already as bored as I am? Yawn.

...

The Phoenix Suns will be their waterloo.

[Roy Hobbs]

That's cool.  In the "fake" NBA, Portland's roster has been fitted with adamantium skeletons.  (We're staying silent about whether it's with or without claws, but I'd suggest people not make us mad).

Disclaimer:  such skeletons are subject to removal should we ever decide to trade any of our players.

For those of you not up on your Celticsblog draft history, Hobbs developed the "T.J. Ford gambit" last season.

I just like Portland and Buffalo better.

Right now, I thinks its Portland than Buffalo in the West.

And in regards to Portland and Buffalo’s blossoming love affair. Is the rest of the Western Conference already as bored as I am? Yawn.

...

The Phoenix Suns will be their waterloo.

Darko Milicic and Nate Robinson scream "winner" to me.

[indeedproceed]

That's cool.  In the "fake" NBA, Portland's roster has been fitted with adamantium skeletons.  (We're staying silent about whether it's with or without claws, but I'd suggest people not make us mad).

Disclaimer:  such skeletons are subject to removal should we ever decide to trade any of our players.

For those of you not up on your Celticsblog draft history, Hobbs developed the "T.J. Ford gambit" last season.

I just like Portland and Buffalo better.

Right now, I thinks its Portland than Buffalo in the West.

And in regards to Portland and Buffalo’s blossoming love affair. Is the rest of the Western Conference already as bored as I am? Yawn.

...

The Phoenix Suns will be their waterloo.

Darko Milicic and Nate Robinson scream "winner" to me.

I'm sorry. They've been doing that ever since it became obvious the Suns are the best team in the West. I will tell them to be quiet.

[StartOrien]

I'm not so convinced on the Denver Future Team coronation just yet as I think so much of that is contingent upon Oden turning himself into something. And I am not convinced that he is going to be anything but a slow, plodding big guy that can give you close to a double double while being in foul trouble a lot.

Maybe he turns into the second coming of Shaq but I don't see the raw athleticism that Shaq had while being very young. And without his development, there's a lot of okay young talent on Denver but nothing outstanding.

I really like Cleveland's young talent and think Miami and Indiana have promising Future Teams.

Though I have to say although that Boxer team is far from finished, their start towards a Future Team is AWESOME!!!!

Wow. Cleveland, Miami, Indy, Denver...LOL It's like we're not even here. 3 of my 4 starters figured prominently for teams that were in the playoffs last year. Moon is an up and coming wing that has started before and was on a playoff team. We've balanced our youth with some solid veteran help off the bench. We shoot well, we shoot FTs well(save for Big Ben). Defense is probably still a work in progress but there is some serious talent on this team. I'm surprised at not even an honorable mention for a team that has maybe the best young player in the league(that enetered the NBA in the last 2-3 years).

I don't mean to pick on you, because a bunch of people have already done it, but I think people need to realize that it's a lot harder to assess the 'up and coming teams' because there's more to look at, and I think it can be a bit more opinionated. Some people value some other younger players a lot differently.

Whereas I think 'best team' is a little more straight forward. These are teams that are built well, and we already know what their assets are able to do.

I think it might be best to wait until people get a lot of time to digest rosters before getting bent out of shape.

You certainly make a valid point SO and I don't think people have been picking on me. In fact, save for Jsaad a few days ago My team has been pretty absent from all conversations. Truth be told I don't necessarily even mind that. It is certainly hard to project young talent. That said a number of my players have already performed admirably on teams that made it to the playoffs and that doesn't even include Kevin Durant. And since young teams need an elite level player to build around Durant as a young player is pretty good.

No, i think your team absolutely deserves consideration and I think you'll see your name mentioned quite a few times. I've just seen a whole lot of people, myself included, write a response of shock when not considered for 'team of the future.'

[Roy Hobbs]

That's cool.  In the "fake" NBA, Portland's roster has been fitted with adamantium skeletons.  (We're staying silent about whether it's with or without claws, but I'd suggest people not make us mad).

Disclaimer:  such skeletons are subject to removal should we ever decide to trade any of our players.

For those of you not up on your Celticsblog draft history, Hobbs developed the "T.J. Ford gambit" last season.

I just like Portland and Buffalo better.

Right now, I thinks its Portland than Buffalo in the West.

And in regards to Portland and Buffalo’s blossoming love affair. Is the rest of the Western Conference already as bored as I am? Yawn.

...

The Phoenix Suns will be their waterloo.

Darko Milicic and Nate Robinson scream "winner" to me.

I'm sorry. They've been doing that ever since it became obvious the Suns are the best team in the West. I will tell them to be quiet.

Well, I guess it's better than the *last* time Darko was screaming about something.  http://tinyurl.com/29jzm8 (not suitable for work or minors.  At all.)

[nickagneta]

Sorry buckner, I probably should have included Milwaukee as well, you definitely have the best young talented player in the game not named Dwight or LeBron. And don't mind that they don't talk about your team, mine almost never gets a mention either. But that's okay, they can judge our teams when we are done putting them together.

[Roy Hobbs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gW25PZZHns

Good to see our starting center is keeping in shape.

[bucknersrevenge]

I'm not so convinced on the Denver Future Team coronation just yet as I think so much of that is contingent upon Oden turning himself into something. And I am not convinced that he is going to be anything but a slow, plodding big guy that can give you close to a double double while being in foul trouble a lot.

Maybe he turns into the second coming of Shaq but I don't see the raw athleticism that Shaq had while being very young. And without his development, there's a lot of okay young talent on Denver but nothing outstanding.

I really like Cleveland's young talent and think Miami and Indiana have promising Future Teams.

Though I have to say although that Boxer team is far from finished, their start towards a Future Team is AWESOME!!!!

Wow. Cleveland, Miami, Indy, Denver...LOL It's like we're not even here. 3 of my 4 starters figured prominently for teams that were in the playoffs last year. Moon is an up and coming wing that has started before and was on a playoff team. We've balanced our youth with some solid veteran help off the bench. We shoot well, we shoot FTs well(save for Big Ben). Defense is probably still a work in progress but there is some serious talent on this team. I'm surprised at not even an honorable mention for a team that has maybe the best young player in the league(that enetered the NBA in the last 2-3 years).

I don't mean to pick on you, because a bunch of people have already done it, but I think people need to realize that it's a lot harder to assess the 'up and coming teams' because there's more to look at, and I think it can be a bit more opinionated. Some people value some other younger players a lot differently.

Whereas I think 'best team' is a little more straight forward. These are teams that are built well, and we already know what their assets are able to do.

I think it might be best to wait until people get a lot of time to digest rosters before getting bent out of shape.

You certainly make a valid point SO and I don't think people have been picking on me. In fact, save for Jsaad a few days ago My team has been pretty absent from all conversations. Truth be told I don't necessarily even mind that. It is certainly hard to project young talent. That said a number of my players have already performed admirably on teams that made it to the playoffs and that doesn't even include Kevin Durant. And since young teams need an elite level player to build around Durant as a young player is pretty good.

No, i think your team absolutely deserves consideration and I think you'll see your name mentioned quite a few times. I've just seen a whole lot of people, myself included, write a response of shock when not considered for 'team of the future.'

True indeed. I like your little group there. X factor though is Curry. I'll be watching him with interest to see how much of a pg he really is. Does he have the athleticism and the footspeed to get into the lane like the good PGs do? I don't know enough about him yet to say but I'll be watching.

[ChampKind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gW25PZZHns

Good to see our starting center is keeping in shape.

Surrounding yourself with fatter, more out of shape people is always a good way to look healthier.

[wdleehi]

PG Conley    Foye     Collins
SG Pietrus   Azubuike
SF Green     Wright
PF Haslem    Love       Scali
C  Oden      Boone


INJ/Future trade bait for big time scorer: Ming

Okay, here's the team we're debating.  Obviously, the biggest factor in determining how good they'll be is the development of Greg Oden.  That's a given.

I think, basement, Oden turns into Kendrick Perkins with more athleticism.  That's a good player.

From there, you've got Conley, who has good chemistry with Oden.  Conley was excellent in the second half of last season.

Green and Foye are good young wings.  Love is already a dominant rebounder and amazing passer.

Pietrus, Azuibuke, and Haslem are all young veterans who are doing great things with their teams.  Josh Boone and Mardy Collins are good role players.  Brandan Wright has a ton of upside, although time will tell with his development.

Then, of course, there's Yao.  If he becomes healthy, the team either has a dominant center, or a huge trading chip.

I really like the team, and it's roster construction.  It has post players, shooters, defenders, slashers, etc.  Maybe I shouldn't say it's "the best" without examining every other team, but I think Denver is a strong, strong contender.

The other point people might be missing is that all that talent on the team isn't necessarily going to be the talent in 2 years.

Yao will bring back a huge return.  He will be someone "final piece".  Well, he will be a few teams "final piece" at the beginning of the offseason when he is healthy.  Then again, I could end up with the biggest "twin towers" in NBA history.  Imagine trying to stop Yao in the high post, Oden in the low post.  

This season, there will also be a lot of time spent on finding who actually fits around Oden.  Those that do, get their spots.  Those who don't, get packaged in trades.  Unlike Chicago a few years ago when they could of had KG, I will not be afraid to pull the trigger on a big trade.  (and like Ainge showed, having a large stock of good young players is very helpful in trades)


Other teams will have young players that are very hyped right now.  But few will have both the high potential (Oden) and the talent depth that Denver has right now.  


And I know, no one else has Scali.  

[wdleehi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gW25PZZHns

Good to see our starting center is keeping in shape.

Still funny listening to someone call Shaq "skinny"

[RebusRankin]

Which division is toughest?

[wdleehi]

Which division is toughest?

To make the playoffs, Atlantic.   You can make a case for every team in there to be the best in the division.

[indeedproceed]

Which division is toughest?

To make the playoffs, Atlantic.   You can make a case for every team in there to be the best in the division.

Me n Rebus know where the best teams are at. (This is not where we talk about Portland. Solidarity!)

[RebusRankin]

Which division is toughest?

To make the playoffs, Atlantic.   You can make a case for every team in there to be the best in the division.

Me n Rebus know where the best teams are at. (This is not where we talk about Portland. Solidarity!)

Solidarity Indeed! The Pacific, the toughest division in the Fake NBA.