If we do a 3-for-1 trade for Daniels, how do we fill out our roster?

[Roy Hobbs]

I also think the team will try to sign a legitimate seven footer for deep depth, basically to fill the Scot Pollard role of a couple seasons ago.

Why would Wyc want to waste the payroll dollars on somebody to play the Scot Pollard role?  If he wants to do that, he should leave the roster spot open for Powe.

I think a lot of teams have an emergency center to come off the bench.  The Celtics have had one the past two seasons (if you call POB an emergency center), and there are any number of seven footers around the league who only see spot minutes.

[snively]

What about that kid who was on our summer league team? I don't remember his name, but he was the one who had cancer and scored 61 in Turkey last year.

Some columnist (maybe Marc Stein or Henry Abbott) wrote that he believes that this guy was too good of a shooter to not get at least a training camp invitation. Anyway, worth keeping him in mind.

Chris Lofton.

If Hudson makes the team, I can't see Lofton making it too.  That would be 3 undersized shooting guards on the team.  They'd never even get practice time.

I'm not a huge fan of dealing Tony and Walker for someone who has already committed to sign with us, but maybe that's what Ainge needs to do to clear money to resign Baby.  

The back-up 1 options are hardly inspiring (I like Pruitt just as much as Lue).  Bringing Cassell out of retirement would probably be more useful than signing some of these guys.  We're just not going to find anyone better than House at the 1 in free agency (B-Jax and Flip Murray are no better at setting up teammates than House or Daniels).  I guess Anthony Carter would be the most useful guy, but I'm sure other teams can offer him more than 5-10 minutes every once in awhile.  

I'd like Shelden Williams to bolster our big man rotation.  Good rebounder who can even block some shots.

We could use a shooting wing though.  I would definitely still like Wally Z, but that's probably unrealistic.  

[celticinorlando]

i feel comfortable have 3 bigs on the bench after last season..ideally that would be sheed, baby and a rehabbed powe...but i would take a 3rd big that could play 5 minutes if needed..i want to see this line up:

rondo
PP
KG
Perk
Sheed  

[celticinorlando]

What about that kid who was on our summer league team? I don't remember his name, but he was the one who had cancer and scored 61 in Turkey last year.

Some columnist (maybe Marc Stein or Henry Abbott) wrote that he believes that this guy was too good of a shooter to not get at least a training camp invitation. Anyway, worth keeping him in mind.

Chris Lofton.

If Hudson makes the team, I can't see Lofton making it too.  That would be 3 undersized shooting guards on the team.  They'd never even get practice time.

I'm not a huge fan of dealing Tony and Walker for someone who has already committed to sign with us, but maybe that's what Ainge needs to do to clear money to resign Baby.  

The back-up 1 options are hardly inspiring (I like Pruitt just as much as Lue).  Bringing Cassell out of retirement would probably be more useful than signing some of these guys.  We're just not going to find anyone better than House at the 1 in free agency (B-Jax and Flip Murray are no better at setting up teammates than House or Daniels).  I guess Anthony Carter would be the most useful guy, but I'm sure other teams can offer him more than 5-10 minutes every once in awhile.  

I'd like Shelden Williams to bolster our big man rotation.  Good rebounder who can even block some shots.

We could use a shooting wing though.  I would definitely still like Wally Z, but that's probably unrealistic.  

lofton can shoot lights out but offers little more...would be another eddie house...as for wally..i think he can be had b/c the cavs already have replaced him with parker and moon...cant see them spending more money on a wing like him when they need help other places...wally in boston? i guess he could get some time at SF while daniels played the 2

[Fafnir]

Is Ramon Sessions still available? Is the LLE enough to get him?

It looks like the Bucks want to save money.

You can only sign a player to an offer sheet of three years or longer. Thus we can't even make an offer for Sessions. The Bucks will probably any deal offered though, maybe a full length MLE size deal would scare them off.

[Roy Hobbs]

Is Ramon Sessions still available? Is the LLE enough to get him?

It looks like the Bucks want to save money.

You can only sign a player to an offer sheet of three years or longer. Thus we can't even make an offer for Sessions. The Bucks will probably any deal offered though, maybe a full length MLE size deal would scare them off.

Offer sheets have to be for at least *two* seasons, unless the original team offered a "maximum qualifying offer", i.e., offered their restricted free agent (coming off the fourth year of his rookie deal) a maximum contract for six seasons.  That doesn't apply to Sessions.

I agree, though, that the Bucks would instantly match an offer for the LLE.

[Casperian]

Thank you, guys. It´s great to have so many cap-experts on this site^^

[Cman]

The most important spot by far is backup PG.  Here, I agree with Brick James: Starbury, Jackson, and Lue.  Eddie isn't suited to PG; it messes up his shot.

After that, I'd focus on a player who can contribute especially against the perimeter longs in LA, Cleveland and Orlando: Udoka.

I don't know which is more unbelievable, that Flip Murray is still available, or that Chris doesn't know he isn't a PG (Was that the real Chris?).

Next, Rasho.

Having seen the whole of both summer leagues, I'm ready to dump all our own end-of-bench guys.  There's much better out there.   

Agreed on your assessment with the players for all three positions. 

I like the idea of a long backup Center, to have in emergency situations (keep in mind KG and KP are coming back from surgery). 

A decent vet PG for the minimum, from the start of the season, would be great.  For this reason, Starbury would be fine... he knows the system better than Lue or anyone else.  I have a funny feeling, though, that it will be Lue.

Finally, I still feel that the Cs need a decent SF in the 3/4 mold.  No FA really fits that, but Udoka would be fine bc of his perimeter skills.

[fairweatherfan06]

1) Tim Thomas he is a 3/4 stretches the floor and would be good for spot minutes
2)Another big hopefully Joe Smith but Swift may be in our future (at least he's tall?)

3) A backup PG there are none I like on the market so I go out on a limb and say someone real farfetched like Steve Francis (provided he still can play) he knows he's not a star anymore, he has something to prove and he's 6'3 and will take the minimum and whatever minutes he gets.

[SSFan V]

Let's assume that the Tony / Walker / Pruitt deal for Marquis Daniels is accurate.  Also, let's assume that we resign BBD.  If it is, that leaves us with:

C: Perk / Rasheed
PF: KG / BBD / Scal
SF: Pierce / Daniels
SG: Ray / House / Giddens
PG: Rondo / ?

That leaves us with 11 players.  If we sign Lester Hudson, that leaves us with 12.  Teams are required to carry 13 players.

Therefore, we *have* to sign one player (plus Hudson), and can sign as many as four.  Who should Danny target?

The glaring need, obviously, is backup point guard.  Eddie isn't as bad as some has suggested, but the last two seasons the team has targeted veteran PGs, so it makes sense they would again.

I also think the team will try to sign a legitimate seven footer for deep depth, basically to fill the Scot Pollard role of a couple seasons ago.  It wouldn't shock me if this turns out to be Robert Swift, although there are a lot of options.

If we go that route with our first two roster spots, I'd really like to see Danny bring back Leon Powe on a two-year (non-guaranteed) deal.  The team is lacking a true inside scorer other than Perk, and the bench could also use another good rebounder.  It's obviously a gamble, but right now we have the space to take a chance.

I honestly think it will be Marbury & Powe - with Powe being a few months out.  Perhaps Swift.

[hwangjini_1]

let's take stock for a few seconds as we banter so many players' names around here. it seems to me that the debates occuring now at cb may be straining at gnats.

celtics can carry 15 players max, so...

starting 5
perk
kg
pierce
allen
rondo

bench 6-9
wallace
daniels
house
big baby....i hope. for now let's be positive. 

that leaves exactly 6 roster spots left.  unless a trade happens, the following folks are on salary and booked for the upcoming season...

scal,
tony,
giddens OR maybe walker, but not probably both.

that would leave only 3 places left. who fills those spots is really what this board seems to be debating right now. if our debates have devolved to arguments over spots 12-15 of the roster, then the celtics must have had a pretty successful off season. 

for those final 3 slots, possible candidate include...
pruitt
hudson
eventual powe
a pg-to-be-named-later
a c/pf-to-be-named-later


pruitt - did she show that he was more valuable than any other possible pg out there? i am not convinced of that right now.

hudson - ainge seems to really like him, but with the injury we may never know. does anyone now whether the celtics could NOT sign him for year, let him recover, and then keep his rights?

powe - one of my personal favorites. i hope powe is eventually recoverd and brought back. but he is an investment in the future right now since i doubt he will really contribute this season. does ainge want to burn a roster spot on him?

[mgent]

Even with another PG and Hudson AND Swift we still have room for Leon.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.  This is why i disagreed with us telling him to find a new team.  Even if we do fill up our roster we can easily trim the fat during the season like we've been doing (Pollard, Cassel, POB, Brandon Wallace).  Plus if we're still planning to trade Scal at the deadline (i hope we don't), we're gonna need a guy like Powe.

[Fafnir]

Even with another PG and Hudson AND Swift we still have room for Leon.  Seems like a no-brainer to me.  This is why i disagreed with us telling him to find a new team.  Even if we do fill up our roster we can easily trim the fat during the season like we've been doing (Pollard, Cassel, POB, Brandon Wallace).  Plus if we're still planning to trade Scal at the deadline (i hope we don't), we're gonna need a guy like Powe.

We very well might have enough roster spots if we don't sign and trade for anyone.

Also we still don't know if Powe will be back this year, if ever.

[Greeny]

Lets get BBD first, then speculate on another player/need.
I would rather have another 4/5 player than a PG.

If it was my choice if we get BBD:
Flip Murray
Linus Kleiza
Von Wafer

Giddens deserves a chance too...

[vjcsmoke]

Why don't we get Rudy Fernandez?  He could feel the PG/SG backup role pretty well, couldn't he?