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Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2009, 11:54:25 PM »

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I'd give up Rondo and Ray in a deal for him, but not Perk as well. We could fill in at the 2, especially with CP3's ability to score, but we couldn't lose the big man. Chandler is a bust.

How about this though that works in the machine:

Boston sends: Ray, Rondo, TA, and Giddens
NO sends: CP3 and Peja

CP3, House, Pruitt
Peja, House, Walker
PP, Walker, TBD
KG, Rasheed, BBD
Perk, Rasheed, TBD

I definitely like Ray over Peja, but CP3 over Rondo is such a big jump that it would be worth it.

Boston gets a big jump at the PG spot and not a huge dropoff at the 2. They don't have to worry about Rondo's extension so soon as CP3 has 3 years.

NO gets expiring deals in RAY, Giddens, TA, and even Rondo if they choose. If they think he is worth it they re-up him at likely less than CP3's contract.

this is a pretty reasonable deal for both teams. I think NO would want Rondo to sign an extension in the 9-10 million per range before they do it....which I'm not sure Rondo would do going to a new team. he might want to hit FA if he gets traded...

but leaving that aside, I really don't think you can trade Ray at this point. like i said to Bball, you can't have Ray so much a part of the Sheed pitch and then ship him out.

Considering that Rondo would be a restricted free-agent, I don't think they would care much to force him to sign an extention as a condition for a trade.

a lot of teams are going to have money next off season. Rondo could get a pretty lucrative deal from someone that would put NO right back in the spot they are in now.

they're just looking to trim costs. they still want to stay competitive.

Not at the same spot. They'll save Peja's contract.

true, but they're not going to want to trade CP and then end up with another PG making similar money who isn't quite the franchise player CP is. personally I think they would want to get him locked up.

Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2009, 11:57:33 PM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.

Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2009, 12:04:04 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.
Chandler's injury problems this year killed their season. Peja and West also had some health issues if I remember right. But Chandler wasn't effective for the entire year, killed their defense and rebounding.

Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2009, 12:05:10 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.
EXACTLY.  There's nothing outstandingly great about CP and Rondo is more than competent.  Why is this even a suggestion?
Great player who can do excellent things when given lots of ball-time, what great player can't?  If he was on this team with the big 3 he wouldn't be MVP talk.
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Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2009, 12:06:37 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.
There's nothing outstandingly great about CP
Are you watching the same NBA that I do? There are a great many things that are outstanding about Chris Paul's game.

I'm not a fan of how much dribbling he does with the ball but he does pretty much everything else you could want.

Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2009, 12:11:46 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.
There's nothing outstandingly great about CP
Are you watching the same NBA that I do? There are a great many things that are outstanding about Chris Paul's game.

I'm not a fan of how much dribbling he does with the ball but he does pretty much everything else you could want.
I admit his game is excellent.  But many parts of Rondo's game are excellent as well, so i can't say he 'stands out' that far in front of him.
If Rondo was on the Hornets would he be as good as CP?  No.
If CP was on the Celtics would his stats take a hit?  Probably a large one.
If we could trade Rondo for CP would our team be better?  Obviously.
Is that possible?  No way in hell.
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Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2009, 12:22:18 AM »

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Breaking:

New Orleans Hornets trade Chris Paul to the LA Lakers for Marc Gasol, Javaris Crittenon, a 2nd round pick, and cash considerations.

 ;D

Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2009, 12:28:10 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.
Chandler's injury problems this year killed their season. Peja and West also had some health issues if I remember right. But Chandler wasn't effective for the entire year, killed their defense and rebounding.

yeah, that hurt, but there was more to it....that squad has deeper chemistry problems IMO. very disappointing season.

Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2009, 12:50:22 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.

Posey playing well for them was irrelevant if you neglect your real needs. Your teammates under performing, missing wide open shots, is not Paul's problem...he can only do so much. If there's something he does real well is get people wide open shots. And I don't know how much of you can say that it was the same roster with your only good center, and a catalyst of their offense, with Chandler very injured through most of the year. Peja missing shots that he should make

Really, CP can only do so much. And I subscribe to the idea of your PG taking some blame when things are not running smoothly, but when he's doing what he's supposed to and others aren't responding, something else is going on. Funny that people don't like some of my critiques of Rondo when the offense is not running as it should but have no problem in using it against other PGs.

And lets not forget that coach's role in all of this. Still they got to the playoffs, and lost to Denver who really was a powerhouse in the playoffs.

Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2009, 01:04:16 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.

Posey playing well for them was irrelevant if you neglect your real needs. Your teammates under performing, missing wide open shots, is not Paul's problem...he can only do so much. If there's something he does real well is get people wide open shots. And I don't know how much of you can say that it was the same roster with your only good center, and a catalyst of their offense, with Chandler very injured through most of the year. Peja missing shots that he should make

Really, CP can only do so much. And I subscribe to the idea of your PG taking some blame when things are not running smoothly, but when he's doing what he's supposed to and others aren't responding, something else is going on. Funny that people don't like some of my critiques of Rondo when the offense is not running as it should but have no problem in using it against other PGs.

And lets not forget that coach's role in all of this. Still they got to the playoffs, and lost to Denver who really was a powerhouse in the playoffs.

but i disagree that they were simply a team of players missing open shots. things IMO were not running smoothly.

and they got destroyed by DEN. their offense in the series was totally dysfunctional.

they went from one win away from the WCF '08 to an easy out in '09. pretty big drop.

remember, what we're suggesting here is that CP is going to step in and replace BOTH Ray and Rondo....given how things shook down in NO last season, I think there is some reason to worry about who is the better fit for the Cs...

Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2009, 01:08:52 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.

Posey playing well for them was irrelevant if you neglect your real needs. Your teammates under performing, missing wide open shots, is not Paul's problem...he can only do so much. If there's something he does real well is get people wide open shots. And I don't know how much of you can say that it was the same roster with your only good center, and a catalyst of their offense, with Chandler very injured through most of the year. Peja missing shots that he should make

Really, CP can only do so much. And I subscribe to the idea of your PG taking some blame when things are not running smoothly, but when he's doing what he's supposed to and others aren't responding, something else is going on. Funny that people don't like some of my critiques of Rondo when the offense is not running as it should but have no problem in using it against other PGs.

And lets not forget that coach's role in all of this. Still they got to the playoffs, and lost to Denver who really was a powerhouse in the playoffs.

but i disagree that they were simply a team of players missing open shots. things IMO were not running smoothly.

and they got destroyed by DEN. their offense in the series was totally dysfunctional.

they went from one win away from the WCF '08 to an easy out in '09. pretty big drop.

Which is pretty much irrelevant when Chris Paul is concerned as there were many other factors to blame for this, like health. Same as the Celtics this year... Rondo played better this playoffs than the last one, yet we were eliminated earlier. You can't draw conclusions like that. There are many factors involved, and Chris Paul being the PG of the Hornets and him running the offense was hardly their problem.

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« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2009, 01:17:45 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.

Posey playing well for them was irrelevant if you neglect your real needs. Your teammates under performing, missing wide open shots, is not Paul's problem...he can only do so much. If there's something he does real well is get people wide open shots. And I don't know how much of you can say that it was the same roster with your only good center, and a catalyst of their offense, with Chandler very injured through most of the year. Peja missing shots that he should make

Really, CP can only do so much. And I subscribe to the idea of your PG taking some blame when things are not running smoothly, but when he's doing what he's supposed to and others aren't responding, something else is going on. Funny that people don't like some of my critiques of Rondo when the offense is not running as it should but have no problem in using it against other PGs.

And lets not forget that coach's role in all of this. Still they got to the playoffs, and lost to Denver who really was a powerhouse in the playoffs.

but i disagree that they were simply a team of players missing open shots. things IMO were not running smoothly.

and they got destroyed by DEN. their offense in the series was totally dysfunctional.

they went from one win away from the WCF '08 to an easy out in '09. pretty big drop.

Which is pretty much irrelevant when Chris Paul is concerned as there were many other factors to blame for this, like health. Same as the Celtics this year... Rondo played better this playoffs than the last one, yet we were eliminated earlier. You can't draw conclusions like that. There are many factors involved, and Chris Paul being the PG of the Hornets and him running the offense was hardly their problem.

again, i disagree. I think NOs problems ran deeper than health. they certainly didn't have the same level of injuries as the Cs.

you just said that you complain about Rondo when the Cs offense doesn't run smoothly, so why is it such a stretch to put some blame on CP when NOs offense doesn't run smoothly.

did you watch the DEN series? they were awful. that was not all injury. they were just bad.

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« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2009, 01:32:47 AM »

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I think Rondo is the better fit for this Rondo than Paul. Paul would want to dominate the ball too much. We know the chemistry with Rondo works very well. You just don't know how Paul would mesh with big 3 and now "Sheed.

This "better fit" crap is going overboard.

Paul has been an MVP candidate for the last couple of years, and you're going to worry about Rondo being a better fit? Which he isnt...

I don't know I kinda buy elements of the better fit argument. Paul is clearly the better player and probably always will be.

but that NO team was terrible last year. there definitely was a chemistry problem. they had injuries, but their problems went deeper than that.

The roster was built very poorly and they had quite a few key injuries... NO's struggle wasn't Paul's doing.

22 points per game, at 50% shooting, 36% from 3-pointer, 11 assits per game... come on.

Their big man situation was horrible, and that played a huge role. They didn't address that need, instead choosing to overpay for Posey. Then we have Peja who was underperforming and got injured close to the playoffs making matters worse.

well the roster was pretty similar to the year before and Posey actually played well for them.

I'm not saying that CP caused the problem per se, but as the PG you need to get the team playing well together not just get your own stats....

there was enough talent on that team to play better than they did. heck, they did it the season before.

Posey playing well for them was irrelevant if you neglect your real needs. Your teammates under performing, missing wide open shots, is not Paul's problem...he can only do so much. If there's something he does real well is get people wide open shots. And I don't know how much of you can say that it was the same roster with your only good center, and a catalyst of their offense, with Chandler very injured through most of the year. Peja missing shots that he should make

Really, CP can only do so much. And I subscribe to the idea of your PG taking some blame when things are not running smoothly, but when he's doing what he's supposed to and others aren't responding, something else is going on. Funny that people don't like some of my critiques of Rondo when the offense is not running as it should but have no problem in using it against other PGs.

And lets not forget that coach's role in all of this. Still they got to the playoffs, and lost to Denver who really was a powerhouse in the playoffs.

but i disagree that they were simply a team of players missing open shots. things IMO were not running smoothly.

and they got destroyed by DEN. their offense in the series was totally dysfunctional.

they went from one win away from the WCF '08 to an easy out in '09. pretty big drop.

Which is pretty much irrelevant when Chris Paul is concerned as there were many other factors to blame for this, like health. Same as the Celtics this year... Rondo played better this playoffs than the last one, yet we were eliminated earlier. You can't draw conclusions like that. There are many factors involved, and Chris Paul being the PG of the Hornets and him running the offense was hardly their problem.

again, i disagree. I think NOs problems ran deeper than health. they certainly didn't have the same level of injuries as the Cs.

you just said that you complain about Rondo when the Cs offense doesn't run smoothly, so why is it such a stretch to put some blame on CP when NOs offense doesn't run smoothly.

did you watch the DEN series? they were awful. that was not all injury. they were just bad.

Because for the most part Paul is doing what he's supposed to while Rondo isn't?

So, West playing poorly was Paul's fault? Nothing to do with him playing hurt.

Chandler playing poorly because he barely played all season and hadn't played in just one game of the last 16 games of the season before the playoffs started and was completely out of rhythm and quite lost at times.  Was that Paul's fault?

And Peja just played poorly, taking bad shots and missing wide open ones... shots he was making consistently the previous year.

Really, Paul was hardly the problem with that offense. Other than Posey, the rest of the roster is pure crap.

You guys complain about Ainge not having a back-up center last year (when we had Garnett, Perk, Baby, and Moore fully capable of playing center) but you know who New Orleans had? Hilton Armstrong... yuck. That's it, other than Chandler who was hurt and just playing awful, that's all they had. PF? West and that crap Sean Marks.... really come on.

You have to be realistic.

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I think you're both right.
Regardless the Hornets are not a championship team.
I think my main problem with Chris Paul is he does too much.  If we wanted him to fit in where Rondo was, he wouldn't score to the best of his ability, which would be a shame.  He feels a lot like AI who does his best when he has the ball a lot, which I feel is counter-productive to a team sport.  And then if he plays like a team player, that's counter-productive to being the best player he could be.  The good thing about Paul though is he can score AND pass.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Would N.O. really Deal Chris Paul?
« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2009, 01:37:01 AM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

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I think you're both right.
Regardless the Hornets are not a championship team.
I think my main problem with Chris Paul is he does too much.  If we wanted him to fit in where Rondo was, he wouldn't score to the best of his ability, which would be a shame.  He feels a lot like AI who does his best when he has the ball a lot, which I feel is counter-productive to a team sport.  And then if he plays like a team player, that's counter-productive to being the best player he could be.  The good thing about Paul though is he can score AND pass.

You forget that Paul was ASKED to play that role. They had to push him to become the kind of scorer he is currently... he was quite content with distributing the ball.

Efficient scorer, better shooter than Rondo, better free-throw shooter than Rondo... good rebounder, good defense... defenders don't play off him like they do to Rondo, much better decision maker... we can go on and on.