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Cowherd on some NBA moves ( Odom and Boozer)
« on: July 15, 2009, 11:29:17 AM »

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Listening to The Herd on ESPN. He says Mav's and Miami are offering 5 years to Odom (Lakers offering 3), which could mean as much as 7-8 million more over the life of the contract.

Also said it looks like Boozer to Chicago. No details on who would be going to Utah, although I would imagine Tyrus Thomas would be one of the players involved.


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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 11:36:37 AM »

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Listening to The Herd on ESPN. He says Mav's and Miami are offering 5 years to Odom (Lakers offering 3), which could mean as much as 7-8 million more over the life of the contract.

Also said it looks like Boozer to Chicago. No details on who would be going to Utah, although I would imagine Tyrus Thomas would be one of the players involved.



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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 11:56:03 AM »

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Listening to The Herd on ESPN. He says Mav's and Miami are offering 5 years to Odom (Lakers offering 3), which could mean as much as 7-8 million more over the life of the contract.

Also said it looks like Boozer to Chicago. No details on who would be going to Utah, although I would imagine Tyrus Thomas would be one of the players involved.



Enjoy the season, guys. Now is when every sports personality says every NBA rumor they hear...won't be like this again til Feb

Yeah.  I enjoy Cowherd, but he is no insider.  He gets his information from reading the papers and watching sportscenter.  Nothing new here, just the same rumors that have been talked about for the last few days.

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2009, 12:47:04 PM »

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5 and 34 v. 3 and 27 is actually a fairly big difference. At first blush, it basically means Odom would have to get a 2 year, $7 million deal in 3 years to make up the difference. The lack of state income taxes in Florida and Texas v. the high rates in California make it a bit more substantial, so that Odom would have to get more like 2 years and $9 million in two years to make up the difference.

Odom turns 30 in November. If he takes the Lakers' offer, he'll be a free agent again when he's 32, about to turn 33. Can he get 2 more midlevel years at that point? That's the question that determines whether the Miami/Dallas deals are worth it.

I can see him ultimately going back to LA for one more year at about $8.5-9.5 million, or two years with a player option on the second year. I think he'll try again next summer, still only 30, when more money is available. He'll still get a 5 year MLE deal next summer, he might as well pick up the extra cash now.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 01:21:40 PM »

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It's music to my ears if Odom is no longer a Laker, and everyone else on this blog hopes the same.  I think Miami should step up and make Odom and offer, trade for Boozer, and sign AI to the MLE.  A starting 5 of AI, Wade, Odom, Boozer, and O'Neal is fantastic with Beasley coming off the bench as their 6th man.  Guess I wouldn't want another contender to emerge in the East and give the C's a challenge, but I think if Riley wants to keep Wade and make Miami a contender again he should get all 3 of those guys.  Anyhow, hope he doesn't, but I do hope Odom leaves LA.  That hurts the Lakers big time. 

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2009, 01:53:06 PM »

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It's music to my ears if Odom is no longer a Laker, and everyone else on this blog hopes the same.  I think Miami should step up and make Odom and offer, trade for Boozer, and sign AI to the MLE.  A starting 5 of AI, Wade, Odom, Boozer, and O'Neal is fantastic with Beasley coming off the bench as their 6th man.  Guess I wouldn't want another contender to emerge in the East and give the C's a challenge, but I think if Riley wants to keep Wade and make Miami a contender again he should get all 3 of those guys.  Anyhow, hope he doesn't, but I do hope Odom leaves LA.  That hurts the Lakers big time. 

If they get Odom, they don't have the MLE to get Iverson, but I'd love it too. Miami still wouldn't be in the upper echelon, though they'd be better (and could still add a max player - Boozer long term or somebody else - next summer). And the Lakers would be seriously weakened and would be relying on Bynum to be an All Star caliber (and injury free) player full time (too much reliance in my opinion) and for a lot of their bench wings (Farmar, Vujacic, even Morrison) to step up substantially from last year.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2009, 06:45:57 AM »

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5 and 34 v. 3 and 27 is actually a fairly big difference. At first blush, it basically means Odom would have to get a 2 year, $7 million deal in 3 years to make up the difference. The lack of state income taxes in Florida and Texas v. the high rates in California make it a bit more substantial, so that Odom would have to get more like 2 years and $9 million in two years to make up the difference.

Odom turns 30 in November. If he takes the Lakers' offer, he'll be a free agent again when he's 32, about to turn 33. Can he get 2 more midlevel years at that point? That's the question that determines whether the Miami/Dallas deals are worth it.

I can see him ultimately going back to LA for one more year at about $8.5-9.5 million, or two years with a player option on the second year. I think he'll try again next summer, still only 30, when more money is available. He'll still get a 5 year MLE deal next summer, he might as well pick up the extra cash now.
It was 3 years, 30 million or 4 years, 36 million from the Lakers.  At least according to the article that talked about the Lakers pulling their offer.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2009, 07:21:16 AM »

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It's music to my ears if Odom is no longer a Laker, and everyone else on this blog hopes the same.  I think Miami should step up and make Odom and offer, trade for Boozer, and sign AI to the MLE.  A starting 5 of AI, Wade, Odom, Boozer, and O'Neal is fantastic with Beasley coming off the bench as their 6th man.  Guess I wouldn't want another contender to emerge in the East and give the C's a challenge, but I think if Riley wants to keep Wade and make Miami a contender again he should get all 3 of those guys.  Anyhow, hope he doesn't, but I do hope Odom leaves LA.  That hurts the Lakers big time. 

I'd rather Portland or some other Western team gets Odom.  We don't need anymore East teams getting stronger.  We need more than one team to give LA a run for their money.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2009, 07:22:34 AM »

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We are all dreaming that Lamar leaves L.A.  No way. He doesn't want to, and they won't let him.

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2009, 09:05:52 AM »

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Miami with Odom, Boozer, Beasley and Wade will be a pretty good squad.

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2009, 09:26:25 AM »

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Heat should make a move to get Caron Butler now. I loved their team in Wade's rookie year when it was Wade, Lamar, and Butler

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We are all dreaming that Lamar leaves L.A.  No way. He doesn't want to, and they won't let him.

Yeah, sadly this is what I think too, all this is posturing, Odom will be back with the Fakers.

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2009, 10:43:27 AM »

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Looks like Riley is thinking the same thing I did yesterday minus AI.  ;)

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/comments/heat-targeting-both-boozer-and-odom-255952.html