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What's next on the pecking order, a backup wing or a backup PG?

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Offline coco

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OK, first order of business checked.  At this juncture, I believe that a backout wing is more important than a backup PG.

What do you think?

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wing...without a doubt...PP CANNOT play the minutes he played last year

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Wing, with the same reasoning. Also, I just think that Pruitt has more upside this year than Giddens/Walker
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Offline PerkinsIsABEAST

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backup wing and it's not even close.

just shows how awful of a x's and o's coach doc rivers is that he hasn't thought of the obvious decision of playing eddie house at "pg" and having pierce run point foward with the 2nd unit. Basacally eddie house should only be bringing up the ball against bad PG defenders, pierce should bring the ball up if eddie house has to face any type of pressure and should be the one initiating the offense mainly by running pick and rolls and having eddie house space the floor.

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Not even close.
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backup wing and it's not even close.

just shows how awful of a x's and o's coach doc rivers is that he hasn't thought of the obvious decision of playing eddie house at "pg" and having pierce run point foward with the 2nd unit. Basacally eddie house should only be bringing up the ball against bad PG defenders, pierce should bring the ball up if eddie house has to face any type of pressure and should be the one initiating the offense mainly by running pick and rolls and having eddie house space the floor.

That's why I wanted Grant Hill. He could have done that on the bench.

Actually, that is what they did in the finals in '08, especially in the comeback game 4. The bench was Powe, PJ, Eddie, Posey and usually Ray (though at times Pierce), with Eddie playing PG on defense and Ray or PP playiing PG on offense.

Again, a backup would be better just to be safe, since we can't have PP and Ray play PG on the bench every game if we're going to have a 7 overtime series again.
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Wing.
In a pinch, House can play pg
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Offline PerkinsIsABEAST

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backup wing and it's not even close.

just shows how awful of a x's and o's coach doc rivers is that he hasn't thought of the obvious decision of playing eddie house at "pg" and having pierce run point foward with the 2nd unit. Basacally eddie house should only be bringing up the ball against bad PG defenders, pierce should bring the ball up if eddie house has to face any type of pressure and should be the one initiating the offense mainly by running pick and rolls and having eddie house space the floor.

That's why I wanted Grant Hill. He could have done that on the bench.

Actually, that is what they did in the finals in '08, especially in the comeback game 4. The bench was Powe, PJ, Eddie, Posey and usually Ray (though at times Pierce), with Eddie playing PG on defense and Ray or PP playiing PG on offense.

Again, a backup would be better just to be safe, since we can't have PP and Ray play PG on the bench every game if we're going to have a 7 overtime series again.

grant can do this but pierce will be way more effective at it as hes a far better player at this point in their careers and he plays with the 2nd unit anyway (which is actually a rare good x's and o's move by doc.) Also i've seen doc only do this a few times aka making pierce the point foward and having him bring up the ball, it doesn't change the fact that the other 100+ times he hasn't done it and it's been ridiculously frustrating to say the least.

Offline paintitgreen

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I think wing (I thought it was our biggest need period even before a big), but I think you should have "Big Baby resolution" in there. A decision on him affects what we need out of the wing spot - a 3 who can play some minutes at the 4 when necessary, or a smaller 3/2 wing.
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Re: Poll: What's next on the pecking order, a backup wing or a backup PG?
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 11:56:10 AM »

Offline GKC

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backup wing and it's not even close.

just shows how awful of a x's and o's coach doc rivers is that he hasn't thought of the obvious decision of playing eddie house at "pg" and having pierce run point foward with the 2nd unit. Basacally eddie house should only be bringing up the ball against bad PG defenders, pierce should bring the ball up if eddie house has to face any type of pressure and should be the one initiating the offense mainly by running pick and rolls and having eddie house space the floor.

That's why I wanted Grant Hill. He could have done that on the bench.

Actually, that is what they did in the finals in '08, especially in the comeback game 4. The bench was Powe, PJ, Eddie, Posey and usually Ray (though at times Pierce), with Eddie playing PG on defense and Ray or PP playiing PG on offense.

Again, a backup would be better just to be safe, since we can't have PP and Ray play PG on the bench every game if we're going to have a 7 overtime series again.

grant can do this but pierce will be way more effective at it as hes a far better player at this point in their careers and he plays with the 2nd unit anyway (which is actually a rare good x's and o's move by doc.) Also i've seen doc only do this a few times aka making pierce the point foward and having him bring up the ball, it doesn't change the fact that the other 100+ times he hasn't done it and it's been ridiculously frustrating to say the least.

I'd prefer a wing that can play some point forward at least for 10-15 minutes, just so PP can have a rest.
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Re: Poll: What's next on the pecking order, a backup wing or a backup PG?
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 11:56:21 AM »

Offline PerkinsIsABEAST

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wing...without a doubt...PP CANNOT play the minutes he played last year

agreed, if Pierce goes over 34 mpg during the reg season it's a mistake. Infact I laughed pretty hard during part of the sheed interview with dickerson where sheed was quoted as saying pierce said that doc won't run his vet's into the ground and will conserve their energy....WHAT is that why pierce played 37.5 mpg last year and clearly looked tired come playoff time?

Re: Poll: What's next on the pecking order, a backup wing or a backup PG?
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 11:58:01 AM »

Offline PerkinsIsABEAST

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backup wing and it's not even close.

just shows how awful of a x's and o's coach doc rivers is that he hasn't thought of the obvious decision of playing eddie house at "pg" and having pierce run point foward with the 2nd unit. Basacally eddie house should only be bringing up the ball against bad PG defenders, pierce should bring the ball up if eddie house has to face any type of pressure and should be the one initiating the offense mainly by running pick and rolls and having eddie house space the floor.

That's why I wanted Grant Hill. He could have done that on the bench.

Actually, that is what they did in the finals in '08, especially in the comeback game 4. The bench was Powe, PJ, Eddie, Posey and usually Ray (though at times Pierce), with Eddie playing PG on defense and Ray or PP playiing PG on offense.

Again, a backup would be better just to be safe, since we can't have PP and Ray play PG on the bench every game if we're going to have a 7 overtime series again.

grant can do this but pierce will be way more effective at it as hes a far better player at this point in their careers and he plays with the 2nd unit anyway (which is actually a rare good x's and o's move by doc.) Also i've seen doc only do this a few times aka making pierce the point foward and having him bring up the ball, it doesn't change the fact that the other 100+ times he hasn't done it and it's been ridiculously frustrating to say the least.

I'd prefer a wing that can play some point forward at least for 10-15 minutes, just so PP can have a rest.

why? They won't be nearly as good as pierce would, doc just needs to conserve pierce's minutes better. Aka he needs to play him less with the starters overall and the same amount he played during the bench. Pierce can start, play with the 2nd unit, and play with the starters down the stretch and not go over 34 mpg during the regular season easily if doc used his head. Just take him out at around the 6 or 5 minute mark in the 1st and 3rd quarters, bring him back to play with the 2nd unit, give him a little rest after the starters come back in and then bring him back at around the 6 or 7 minute mark to finish the 2nd and 4th quarters.

Obv Pierce's minutes should be upped during playoff time though.

Re: Poll: What's next on the pecking order, a backup wing or a backup PG?
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 11:59:11 AM »

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  If we don't re-sign Baby I'll go with a 2nd backup big, followed by a backup sf.

Re: Poll: What's next on the pecking order, a backup wing or a backup PG?
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2009, 12:00:13 PM »

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backup wing and it's not even close.

just shows how awful of a x's and o's coach doc rivers is that he hasn't thought of the obvious decision of playing eddie house at "pg" and having pierce run point foward with the 2nd unit. Basacally eddie house should only be bringing up the ball against bad PG defenders, pierce should bring the ball up if eddie house has to face any type of pressure and should be the one initiating the offense mainly by running pick and rolls and having eddie house space the floor.

That's why I wanted Grant Hill. He could have done that on the bench.

Actually, that is what they did in the finals in '08, especially in the comeback game 4. The bench was Powe, PJ, Eddie, Posey and usually Ray (though at times Pierce), with Eddie playing PG on defense and Ray or PP playiing PG on offense.

Again, a backup would be better just to be safe, since we can't have PP and Ray play PG on the bench every game if we're going to have a 7 overtime series again.

grant can do this but pierce will be way more effective at it as hes a far better player at this point in their careers and he plays with the 2nd unit anyway (which is actually a rare good x's and o's move by doc.) Also i've seen doc only do this a few times aka making pierce the point foward and having him bring up the ball, it doesn't change the fact that the other 100+ times he hasn't done it and it's been ridiculously frustrating to say the least.
If we want P getting rest, then this is not a good situation.

I also don't like P bringing the ball up. I really don't trust P as a point forward. I don't trust his dribble nor his instincts. I trust his instincts as a scorer.