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Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2009, 09:21:25 PM »

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It would be a terrible mistake to enter the season without a solid wing backup. Maybe the SF's in free agency are not attractive, or the ones that are attractive are not affordable, but Danny must find someone who allows Paul and Ray to rest during the season, starting in late October.

I'm OK with giving Giddens and/or Walker more playing time this season but only if we have a good and consistent backup wing who plays before them.

So, basically, Dannu must try to sign Barnes, Kleiza, Bogans or whoever good wing player is on the market, even though they seem unaffordable at first. Or try a trade that would bring Outlaw in Boston for expiring contracts.

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2009, 09:23:08 PM »

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i agree with roy and drucci...i am all for giddens or walker being the third wing behind PP and someone they sign...outlaw would be a dream

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2009, 09:38:04 PM »

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If there isn't a good enough backup wing available, then Danny needs to force through a trade. Offer up the expiring contracts and a future first round pick, and get something useful back.

Why does everyone act as if forcing through a trade is insanely easy?
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Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2009, 09:44:14 PM »

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If there isn't a good enough backup wing available, then Danny needs to force through a trade. Offer up the expiring contracts and a future first round pick, and get something useful back.

Why does everyone act as if forcing through a trade is insanely easy?

plus i'm not giving up a first round pick for any backup SF that a team would trade for expirings.

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2009, 09:46:33 PM »

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After watching what happened last season without a backup small forward, I've got no desire to repeat the experience.

the difference, though, is last year we didn't have Sheed. I think you can play Walker and JR more now that you have Sheed. There's less pressure on the position.

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2009, 09:47:30 PM »

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If we keep Baby, there's little to no room for Leon. We're better off with adding another center. Hudson can go, and we add another PG.

Then the decision would be what to do with Pruitt... leave him taking a roster spot, or leave the spot open to fill at the trade deadline once you see how this roster is playing out.

Until TA is moved, I don't think we can afford the roster spot for Leon. PF is simply not a position we need to add more people to, assuming we get Baby. And if we don't, well we'll see what is out there.

I'm not seeing centers out there that would make me feel any better than having the spot go to Leon.

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2009, 09:49:13 PM »

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yes sheed helps but we have to get production out of a back up for PP...i just don't think walker, giddens are ready to do that yet...PP cant play the minutes he did last season

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2009, 09:49:45 PM »

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If we keep Baby, there's little to no room for Leon. We're better off with adding another center. Hudson can go, and we add another PG.

Then the decision would be what to do with Pruitt... leave him taking a roster spot, or leave the spot open to fill at the trade deadline once you see how this roster is playing out.

Until TA is moved, I don't think we can afford the roster spot for Leon. PF is simply not a position we need to add more people to, assuming we get Baby. And if we don't, well we'll see what is out there.

I'm not seeing centers out there that would make me feel any better than having the spot go to Leon.

Leons already undersized, how many rebounds will he get when he's sitting in a wheelchair?

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2009, 09:51:33 PM »

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It would be a terrible mistake to enter the season without a solid wing backup. Maybe the SF's in free agency are not attractive, or the ones that are attractive are not affordable, but Danny must find someone who allows Paul and Ray to rest during the season, starting in late October.

I'm OK with giving Giddens and/or Walker more playing time this season but only if we have a good and consistent backup wing who plays before them.

So, basically, Dannu must try to sign Barnes, Kleiza, Bogans or whoever good wing player is on the market, even though they seem unaffordable at first. Or try a trade that would bring Outlaw in Boston for expiring contracts.

I have no problem with getting a solid backup, but Bogans and Barnes just don't give me any big sense of confidence. Plus, I'm not sure Danny is high on Barnes. He's had two shots at him now and doesn't seem to be too interested.

Kleiza I don't see how we have any shot at.

So, yeah, that leaves trades which I'm all for if they don't rock the boat too much and upgrade to position.

but if that doesn't happen, I'd rather just enter the season with the guys we have and see if one can step it up.

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2009, 09:52:42 PM »

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If we keep Baby, there's little to no room for Leon. We're better off with adding another center. Hudson can go, and we add another PG.

Then the decision would be what to do with Pruitt... leave him taking a roster spot, or leave the spot open to fill at the trade deadline once you see how this roster is playing out.

Until TA is moved, I don't think we can afford the roster spot for Leon. PF is simply not a position we need to add more people to, assuming we get Baby. And if we don't, well we'll see what is out there.

I'm not seeing centers out there that would make me feel any better than having the spot go to Leon.

Leons already undersized, how many rebounds will he get when he's sitting in a wheelchair?

not sure i would call rebounding a weakness of Leon's, so I'd have to say more than most....

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2009, 09:53:14 PM »

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If we keep Baby, there's little to no room for Leon. We're better off with adding another center. Hudson can go, and we add another PG.

Then the decision would be what to do with Pruitt... leave him taking a roster spot, or leave the spot open to fill at the trade deadline once you see how this roster is playing out.

Until TA is moved, I don't think we can afford the roster spot for Leon. PF is simply not a position we need to add more people to, assuming we get Baby. And if we don't, well we'll see what is out there.

I'm not seeing centers out there that would make me feel any better than having the spot go to Leon.

Leons already undersized, how many rebounds will he get when he's sitting in a wheelchair?

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Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2009, 09:58:12 PM »

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what about Sasha Pavlovic? 6'7 can shoot the three...about to be bought out by the suns
That would be perfect.  If he was bought out though would he come to Boston for the minimum?  I could see him going elsewhere for 2-3 million.  I'd love to have him here to not just back up Paul, but Ray too.  He's better than T.A.  Decent defender and good shooter.

I'd much rather have him than Bogans.  I'd probably rather have T.A. than Bogans.

What about Flip Murray as the backup guard to match with Eddie?

I think Barnes would also be suitable to backup Pierce.

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2009, 09:59:17 PM »

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It would be a terrible mistake to enter the season without a solid wing backup. Maybe the SF's in free agency are not attractive, or the ones that are attractive are not affordable, but Danny must find someone who allows Paul and Ray to rest during the season, starting in late October.

I'm OK with giving Giddens and/or Walker more playing time this season but only if we have a good and consistent backup wing who plays before them.





They will be on the floor with enough of the starters so I believe they will be fine. I don't expect Doc to play an all bench lineup unless it is a blowout.

So, basically, Dannu must try to sign Barnes, Kleiza, Bogans or whoever good wing player is on the market, even though they seem unaffordable at first. Or try a trade that would bring Outlaw in Boston for expiring contracts.

I have no problem with getting a solid backup, but Bogans and Barnes just don't give me any big sense of confidence. Plus, I'm not sure Danny is high on Barnes. He's had two shots at him now and doesn't seem to be too interested.

Kleiza I don't see how we have any shot at.

So, yeah, that leaves trades which I'm all for if they don't rock the boat too much and upgrade to position.

but if that doesn't happen, I'd rather just enter the season with the guys we have and see if one can step it up.

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2009, 10:01:50 PM »

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After watching what happened last season without a backup small forward, I've got no desire to repeat the experience.

the difference, though, is last year we didn't have Sheed. I think you can play Walker and JR more now that you have Sheed. There's less pressure on the position.

  The bigger difference is we didn't have KG.

Re: don't sign a FA SF...
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2009, 10:02:08 PM »

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If we keep Baby, there's little to no room for Leon. We're better off with adding another center. Hudson can go, and we add another PG.

Then the decision would be what to do with Pruitt... leave him taking a roster spot, or leave the spot open to fill at the trade deadline once you see how this roster is playing out.

Until TA is moved, I don't think we can afford the roster spot for Leon. PF is simply not a position we need to add more people to, assuming we get Baby. And if we don't, well we'll see what is out there.

I'm not seeing centers out there that would make me feel any better than having the spot go to Leon.

Leons already undersized, how many rebounds will he get when he's sitting in a wheelchair?

not sure i would call rebounding a weakness of Leon's, so I'd have to say more than most....

haha good call. But i'm not saying its a weakness, i'm saying he's already shorter than everyone... whats he going to do when he can't stand up.

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