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Re: Worst Tattoo in the NBA belongs to our very own...
« Reply #90 on: July 11, 2009, 12:16:27 PM »

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I think the discussion of tattoos should be banned to those who are middle-aged or older, and extremely nerdy. Because we all know they hate tattoos, and have no real grasp on what is "in" and what isn't.

And the argument of "do they realize they will have this tattoo when they are old?" is seriously weak. Believe it or not, not everyone lives their life planning up to when they are old and decrepit. Some people like to live in the now.  I for example, ride motorcycles, base jump, and skydive. I could honestly care less how anything I do today, is going to affect me when I am 70. I would actually prefer not to reach that age.


I am pretty sure your comments reflect IQ more than age.

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sometimes you have to bite your lip, exhale and move on.  So, I have.

Re: Worst Tattoo in the NBA belongs to our very own...
« Reply #91 on: July 11, 2009, 12:21:06 PM »

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I think the discussion of tattoos should be banned to those who are middle-aged or older, and extremely nerdy. Because we all know they hate tattoos, and have no real grasp on what is "in" and what isn't.

And the argument of "do they realize they will have this tattoo when they are old?" is seriously weak. Believe it or not, not everyone lives their life planning up to when they are old and decrepit. Some people like to live in the now.  I for example, ride motorcycles, base jump, and skydive. I could honestly care less how anything I do today, is going to affect me when I am 70. I would actually prefer not to reach that age.

This is why I chuckle when people freeze to death climbing Mount Everest or are paralyzed doing extreme sports and the press acts like it is some tragedy. Uh, hello? The whole buzz they wanted is a chemical reaction to danger. What did we think would happen?

Age is pretty irrelevant to being a fan of extreme sports and such. It is more dependent on brain chemistry than youthfulness. So long as a person doesn't complain when risks catch up to them, I think being judgmental about risk addicts is often jealousy by those who want the experience, but aren't willing to risk paralysis.

Empirical studies seem to show that 'living in the now' corresponds to higher levels of happiness, but I haven't seen longitudinal studies on this, particularly dealing with risk junkies.

Re: Worst Tattoo in the NBA belongs to our very own...
« Reply #92 on: July 11, 2009, 12:23:38 PM »

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I think the discussion of tattoos should be banned to those who are middle-aged or older, and extremely nerdy. Because we all know they hate tattoos, and have no real grasp on what is "in" and what isn't.

And the argument of "do they realize they will have this tattoo when they are old?" is seriously weak. Believe it or not, not everyone lives their life planning up to when they are old and decrepit. Some people like to live in the now.  I for example, ride motorcycles, base jump, and skydive. I could honestly care less how anything I do today, is going to affect me when I am 70. I would actually prefer not to reach that age.


I am pretty sure your comments reflect IQ more than age.

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To be fair, a person who doesn't like tattoos projecting how they would feel about a tattoo years later onto someone who actually likes tattoos is a bit silly.

Leave those critiques to people who have a lot of tattoos and actually regret it later on.

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« Reply #93 on: July 11, 2009, 12:24:00 PM »

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I think the discussion of tattoos should be banned to those who are middle-aged or older, and extremely nerdy. Because we all know they hate tattoos, and have no real grasp on what is "in" and what isn't.

And the argument of "do they realize they will have this tattoo when they are old?" is seriously weak. Believe it or not, not everyone lives their life planning up to when they are old and decrepit. Some people like to live in the now.  I for example, ride motorcycles, base jump, and skydive. I could honestly care less how anything I do today, is going to affect me when I am 70. I would actually prefer not to reach that age.


I am pretty sure your comments reflect IQ more than age.

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That's one way to admit you are old ;).

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Empirical studies seem to show that 'living in the now' corresponds to higher levels of happiness, but I haven't seen longitudinal studies on this, particularly dealing with risk junkies.

I can show you the results. Come with me to one of the many bars in small towns across the country. You will see countless unhappy middle-aged men who spent their life making the safe choices.

Also, I am fully aware of the dynamic of having children. I am only 23 but I have several friends with 1-3 children. While maybe then it is best to lower your involvement in activities that have actual harmful effects to your body.


« Last Edit: July 11, 2009, 12:29:02 PM by vagrantwade »

Re: Worst Tattoo in the NBA belongs to our very own...
« Reply #94 on: July 11, 2009, 12:26:59 PM »

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Any player (like Camby I think) that has an asian tatoo they can't read, which is pretty much any NBA player, except possibly Yi, and Yao.

I am telling you every single one of those tatoos say "ignorance"

Do you think kids in China go out and get tatoos written in English like "love" or "joy"?  Do you think they are misspelled?

i disagree wholeheartedly.  for starters there are a ton of resources to validate what the symbol's translation is so that you get the appropriate tattoo.  having an asian character representing a word, meaning, or phrase important in one's life can be a beautiful work of art.  asian characters have a beauty about them to alot of people.

This is the difference. Yesterday I saw a tatoo of a female samurai on an arm. Cool tatoo.

An asian symbol can be translated for you, but unless you read Chinese you are not really reading it at all. You have a tatoo in a language you are illiterate in. You don't really know why the symbol means what it means or why it makes the symbol different from any other symbol, and for all you know it has multiple meanings. It is essentially the equivalent of tatooing a complicated calculus equation on your back, where someone told you the answer, but you have no idea how it arrived at that answer. It's a fraud and fundamentally dishonest amounting to plaigerism.
I agree you can't own language, but the owner is trying to take something that people spend a long time trying to learn and then tatooing it on themselves for their life in 35 minutes.
I disagree with your point that people do it because it is an asthetic or beautiful symbol, because nobody ever uses the symbol for "crud" or "puke" even though they may be the most asthetic of all.
And lastly I doubt the wearer has looked at all the symbols of the world for that word. Arabic and Hindi symbols are very asthetic but you don't see those. Australian aborigine symbols never get used. Asian symbols get used because of stereotypical (positive) associations with Asia as a wise culture. If a person wants to learn to read, write, and speak an Asian language, and then goes there and truely understands and respects the culture then that's one thing, but just paying $49.95 for one thier words that you can't read is rather shallow.
Another thing about Asian cultures is that they have a reputation for ethnocentrism, making it even more odd to want an Asian tatoo.  That makes it the eqivalent of Custer's kid trying to get a Native American tatoo.
American kids with Asian symbol tatoos is no different than Mike Tyson getting a Maori warrior tatoo on his face. He's not Maori. He's not a warrior. Although he is intimidating, so it's actually more appropriate.

I'd rather tatoo a Jackson Pollack on my back.


i disagree again. a calculus equation, even if you know the answer, wouldnt have significant meaning to the individual (unless they're are mathematicians or something that has meaning to the individual). language is universal, regardless of what language it is.  therefore it is possible to have a word, such as love or family, that has a great meaning to a person.  rather than write it in english, whynot have is in another language which the individual thinks it looks beautiful.  some people love love asian culture because there is a lot of beauty in it.  just bc u dont speak a language does not mean u cant embrace, appreciate, or pay homage to it thru tattooing.  again, it is up to the individual....just bc you dont like it, the person should not be looked down upon, chastised, or stereotyped.

with regards to tattooing within the asian culture, for the most part it is a generational thing.  using samoa as an example to dispute it is generational, tattooing is very much part of their culture, regardless of age or generation.  full body suits are very symbolic, religious, and a right of passage in their culture.

again, i cant say this enough......tattooing is all about the individual.  most people get something with meaning behind it....although there are plenty of people who get things bc they think it is "cool".  even those who think it looks cool, should not be looked upon negatively.  getting tattooed is a strong commitment for the individual and in the end, if they like it, thats all that matters.  people looking down upon, teasing, stereotyping, etc...at an individual bc of their appearance is ignorant and rude in my book. 

like i said to guava.....i respect and appreciate your stance, and hope you can do the same towards me, but i think we just have to agree to disagree.

I definitely think we'll have to agree to disagree. That's probably why we start every post with "I disagree.", which I kinda think is funny

Math is in a lot of ways as universal as language and could have meaning such as the guy thinks he's a good dunker so he has the equation of gravity, or he thinks he's warrior so he puts the orbit of Mars (God of war) on his back.

Tatooing in a private place is about the individual, but when you clearly want people to see it, it's not.

You seem to be taking the attitude that there's no such thing as a bad, thoughtless, or inappropriate tatoo and I have to disagree. Asian symbols aren't evil or anything, unless maybe you use an evil word, but people could definitely pick a threatening tatoo or something.

I could see a lot of your arguments about someone thinking something has meaning or something being very symbolic, but I think you are seriously overrating most Asian symbol tatoos. I think for the average individual an Asian symbol tatoo is about the equivalent of "Spring Break: Cancun '95" only possibly prettier. Possibly

Re: Worst Tattoo in the NBA belongs to our very own...
« Reply #95 on: July 11, 2009, 12:28:47 PM »

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I think the discussion of tattoos should be banned to those who are middle-aged or older, and extremely nerdy. Because we all know they hate tattoos, and have no real grasp on what is "in" and what isn't.

And the argument of "do they realize they will have this tattoo when they are old?" is seriously weak. Believe it or not, not everyone lives their life planning up to when they are old and decrepit. Some people like to live in the now.  I for example, ride motorcycles, base jump, and skydive. I could honestly care less how anything I do today, is going to affect me when I am 70. I would actually prefer not to reach that age.


I am pretty sure your comments reflect IQ more than age.

 ::)

That's one way to admit you are old ;).

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Empirical studies seem to show that 'living in the now' corresponds to higher levels of happiness, but I haven't seen longitudinal studies on this, particularly dealing with risk junkies.

I can show you the results. Come with me to one of the many bars in small towns across the country. You will see countless unhappy middle-aged men who spent their life making the safe choices.



Come with me to a cemetary or an intense care unit and I'll show you old and young men who made very stupid short sighted choices when they were young.

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« Reply #96 on: July 11, 2009, 12:30:42 PM »

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I think the discussion of tattoos should be banned to those who are middle-aged or older, and extremely nerdy. Because we all know they hate tattoos, and have no real grasp on what is "in" and what isn't.

And the argument of "do they realize they will have this tattoo when they are old?" is seriously weak. Believe it or not, not everyone lives their life planning up to when they are old and decrepit. Some people like to live in the now.  I for example, ride motorcycles, base jump, and skydive. I could honestly care less how anything I do today, is going to affect me when I am 70. I would actually prefer not to reach that age.


I am pretty sure your comments reflect IQ more than age.

 ::)

That's one way to admit you are old ;).

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Empirical studies seem to show that 'living in the now' corresponds to higher levels of happiness, but I haven't seen longitudinal studies on this, particularly dealing with risk junkies.

I can show you the results. Come with me to one of the many bars in small towns across the country. You will see countless unhappy middle-aged men who spent their life making the safe choices.



Come with me to a cemetary or an intense care unit and I'll show you old and young men who made very stupid short sighted choices when they were young.

Well then I am willing to bet that they don't regret their choices ;).

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« Reply #97 on: July 11, 2009, 12:33:43 PM »

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i think Kenyon Martin's lipstick tattoo is by far the worst.  It's the only tattoo that actually bothers me to look at for some reason.  lol

yes it is, most trashiest, thug looking tattoo in the league

It doesn't even make him look like a thug...

Re: Worst Tattoo in the NBA belongs to our very own...
« Reply #98 on: July 11, 2009, 12:36:21 PM »

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I think the discussion of tattoos should be banned to those who are middle-aged or older, and extremely nerdy. Because we all know they hate tattoos, and have no real grasp on what is "in" and what isn't.

And the argument of "do they realize they will have this tattoo when they are old?" is seriously weak. Believe it or not, not everyone lives their life planning up to when they are old and decrepit. Some people like to live in the now.  I for example, ride motorcycles, base jump, and skydive. I could honestly care less how anything I do today, is going to affect me when I am 70. I would actually prefer not to reach that age.


I am pretty sure your comments reflect IQ more than age.

 ::)

That's one way to admit you are old ;).

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Empirical studies seem to show that 'living in the now' corresponds to higher levels of happiness, but I haven't seen longitudinal studies on this, particularly dealing with risk junkies.

I can show you the results. Come with me to one of the many bars in small towns across the country. You will see countless unhappy middle-aged men who spent their life making the safe choices.



Come with me to a cemetary or an intense care unit and I'll show you old and young men who made very stupid short sighted choices when they were young.

Well then I am willing to bet that they don't regret their choices ;).

Personally I think a lot of the things you are refering to are the easy way out. Try getting married and having a kid. Way harder and takes way more out of you.

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« Reply #99 on: July 11, 2009, 12:44:41 PM »

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I love tattoos, they make it easier to spot the idiots and malefactors of the world.  

The next cool tattoo that I see will be the first.

Re: Worst Tattoo in the NBA belongs to our very own...
« Reply #100 on: July 11, 2009, 12:49:14 PM »

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I love tattoos, they make it easier to spot the idiots and malefactors of the world.  

The next cool tattoo that I see will be the first.

Another good way to spot idiots, is to look for people who automatically assume someone who has a tattoo, has it because they think it is "cool."

Clearly that is why Kobe got the queen crown tattoo after he cheated on his wife right? He knew it would look super cool.

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« Reply #101 on: July 11, 2009, 01:17:29 PM »

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I love tattoos, they make it easier to spot the idiots and malefactors of the world.  

The next cool tattoo that I see will be the first.
That's almost the same as racism or prejudice man, I mean it's not as serious and it's your opinion but judging someone from a little bit of ink isn't the right thing to do.

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« Reply #102 on: July 11, 2009, 01:20:34 PM »

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Once I was talking to my bro who used to work at Abercrombie and Fitch and then JCrew. While he was at Fitch once he said something like

(Despite the rep they try to maintain of being trend setters and cool) "Our average client is just an average insecure kid trying to fit in and be cool"

I think a lot of tatoos are like that. It can just become a shirt-tie of the court thing and you are just a conformist

It is exactly like when Ozzy said to his kids in a clear top 100 unintentional comedy moment "The problem with tatoos is you try to be an individual, but everyone and their bloody grandmother has one...where am I...Sharrrooonnnn!"

I thought of tatoos for years. I played with a lot of guys on a Jersey court where nearly everyone had one except me and an old as heck guy named Joe, and I also noticed that Joe and I were two of the only guys more interested in high percentage shots, rebounds, and defense than in dribbling behind our backs, and we were the only guys that could speak a proper English sentence on demand, so I decided not having a tatoo would be my tatoo.
Joe and I were the only individualistic non-sheep there

I strongly get the feeling that Dennis Rodman for all his boldness is just a coward trying to hide behind tatoos and 30lbs of jewelry, but for every new tatoo he just increases his hideousness and then needs more tatoos like a drug till he ends up looking like a pin cushion someone puked on, which is exactly where Robert Swift is now.

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« Reply #103 on: July 11, 2009, 01:22:09 PM »

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I love tattoos, they make it easier to spot the idiots and malefactors of the world.  

The next cool tattoo that I see will be the first.
That's almost the same as racism or prejudice man, I mean it's not as serious and it's your opinion but judging someone from a little bit of ink isn't the right thing to do.

It's totally different because you are born with your race, but choose the ink and location of siad ink, the same as choosing what clothes you wear, be they a shirt and tie or a big white sheet.

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« Reply #104 on: July 11, 2009, 01:27:46 PM »

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I love tattoos, they make it easier to spot the idiots and malefactors of the world.  

The next cool tattoo that I see will be the first.

Another good way to spot idiots, is to look for people who automatically assume someone who has a tattoo, has it because they think it is "cool."

Clearly that is why Kobe got the queen crown tattoo after he cheated on his wife right? He knew it would look super cool.

I in and of itself don't have issues with tatoos. They definitely have a place in the world, but I have to ask if the following people had tatoos

Ghandi
MLK
Macolm X
Obama
JFK
RFK
Churchill
Jesus
Moses
Bill Gates
Henry Ford
Doug Flutie
George Washington
Patton
Bhudda
etc

I'm sure there are tons of good counterexamples, but I don't see the need for it.

And I'm also getting annoyed with these hot chicks that do the whole tatoo thing.

As soon as I see a Natlie Portman go all Dennis Rodman on me I am writing my political representatives and trying to find a way that the reps can profit off passing a law restricting tatoos in such a situation