Wally Szczerbiak

[xmuscularghandix]

    Your making Bill Walker sound horrible. He's played 216 minutes in his career, Wally has 651 GAMES! The kid is only 21 years old and has alot of time to improve (if given the minutes)

    I'd rather a 21 year old kid with atheleticism that plays with no fear, than a 31 year old player who is strictly a 3PT shooter.

    Bill Walker is a couple thousand practice jumpshots away from being a good all around scorer off the bench, i mean he's throwing up pumpfakes from 3 then driving to the hole, he's never even made a three before and he's got the defense off balance. Imagine if he had even an "okay" outside shot?

You can imagine all you want, but we want to win now and Walker still isn't very good right now.  Just because we bring in a more solid veteran roleplayer like Wally, it doesn't mean we're giving up on Billy.  It just means that right now, while our window is closing, we'd rather not trust significant minutes to a guy who is very turnover prone and doesn't even have a reliable jumpshot yet.

well i'd like to have them both, i was just stating that you made him seem like some sort of TA.

[PosImpos]

i'm souring a bit on walker. i don't want a hatchet man on the c's and he seems to be headed that way. wally is a much better player even though he is a statue. i'm a little intrigued by giddens. he was looking very quick,athletic in summer league and i'm curious if he can at least separate himself against good competition to take a quality shot and make the right decision on the break. that's one thing that wally does do well, in my opinion. he is'nt a bad fast break player. he's slow as molasses but he DOES no where to be.

Yeah, Giddens is looking a lot more promising as a versatile guy than Walker.  I've seen Walker make a couple open 3's in summer league but otherwise he just makes hard fouls and some vicious dunks.  

[xmuscularghandix]

i'm souring a bit on walker. i don't want a hatchet man on the c's and he seems to be headed that way. wally is a much better player even though he is a statue. i'm a little intrigued by giddens. he was looking very quick,athletic in summer league and i'm curious if he can at least separate himself against good competition to take a quality shot and make the right decision on the break. that's one thing that wally does do well, in my opinion. he is'nt a bad fast break player. he's slow as molasses but he DOES no where to be.

Yeah, Giddens is looking a lot more promising as a versatile guy than Walker.  I've seen Walker make a couple open 3's in summer league but otherwise he just makes hard fouls and some vicious dunks.  

Giddens looks better when you have him against some players in a weak conference at college, or in the Dleague, or in the summer league... but up to this point he just looks shaken when on the floor at the NBA level.

"yea he's hit a couple open 3's, made some hard fouls and some vicious dunks"

What do you want from a backup SF? If he can focus on limiting silly fouls and staying in the game (see: Kendrick Perkins)... he's a beast for this team THIS YEAR.

[PosImpos]

i'm souring a bit on walker. i don't want a hatchet man on the c's and he seems to be headed that way. wally is a much better player even though he is a statue. i'm a little intrigued by giddens. he was looking very quick,athletic in summer league and i'm curious if he can at least separate himself against good competition to take a quality shot and make the right decision on the break. that's one thing that wally does do well, in my opinion. he is'nt a bad fast break player. he's slow as molasses but he DOES no where to be.

Yeah, Giddens is looking a lot more promising as a versatile guy than Walker.  I've seen Walker make a couple open 3's in summer league but otherwise he just makes hard fouls and some vicious dunks.  

Giddens looks better when you have him against some players in a weak conference at college, or in the Dleague, or in the summer league... but up to this point he just looks shaken when on the floor at the NBA level.

"yea he's hit a couple open 3's, made some hard fouls and some vicious dunks"

What do you want from a backup SF? If he can focus on limiting silly fouls and staying in the game (see: Kendrick Perkins)... he's a beast for this team THIS YEAR.

If he can actually consistently hit those open 3's, then he'll be an asset.  He also needs to cut down on the fouls, like you said, and not turn over the ball so much.

But those are big question marks.

[guava_wrench]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! He's horrible on the defensive end... He reminds me of when we were horrible... and HE IS JUST A HORRIBLE PLAYER.

Well he's up there on the all time list with 3PT Percentage.

Yeah, Wally World really isn't a bad player, he's just kinda limited at this point in his career.

But I'm willing to bet he'd be better for 10 ppg than Walker or Giddens.  Less turnover prone and more likely to hit some open shots, at least.

I'd choose Bill Walker and JR over Wally in a heartbeat!

The only reason why I would consider them over Wally is that they already have guaranteed money, and I want the Celts to get the most bang for their buck to sustain the team over 3 years.

[keltic]

Matt Barnes should be the first person we call if Hill decides to sign elsewhere.

Wally Szczerbiak should be around about the last person we call.

[GKC]

Does anyone not remember him airballing 2 open 3's in a row against orlando in game 6?

Those are the shots that the good vets make. Wally's been in the league so long and still messes up an open 3.

[PosImpos]

Matt Barnes should be the first person we call if Hill decides to sign elsewhere.

Wally Szczerbiak should be around about the last person we call.

I'd much rather have Barnes.  But there are worse guys we could pick up than Wally.  Wally on his own wouldn't be a very good pickup, but like I said, if we got him and another more defensive guy, I'd like that pickup.

[mgent]

I do think he would be an asset OFF THE BENCH.
But...Why would you ever put him in instead of House if you need a shooter?
Nonetheless i would welcome him to a minimum contract over the 'little 3'.

[timepiece33]

Matt Barnes should be the first person we call if Hill decides to sign elsewhere.

Wally Szczerbiak should be around about the last person we call.

Matt Barnes and Wally Szczerbiak are similar players.  Poor defenders who are not athletic enough to stay with good 3's who have good outside shots.  Not quite sure where the misnomer that Barnes plays good defense came from outside of someone trying to give him credit for Stephen Jackson's prowess.

If they sign either, I'd be OK.  Both are nice minimum level backups that are better than the slop we currently have manning the position.

[ToppersBsktball10]

i don't think it's as crazy as some may think. i also never understood why fans don't seem to like him as a person.

Stuff like this:

“We’re on a fast break and I’m waving him on, but he’s coming up behind me. I swear, I thought he was going to steal the ball. We’ve got all kinds of stories like that. We joke about it.” – Chauncey Billups on Wally Szczerbiak

And because KG snuffed him 

[xmuscularghandix]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! He's horrible on the defensive end... He reminds me of when we were horrible... and HE IS JUST A HORRIBLE PLAYER.

Well he's up there on the all time list with 3PT Percentage.

Yeah, Wally World really isn't a bad player, he's just kinda limited at this point in his career.

But I'm willing to bet he'd be better for 10 ppg than Walker or Giddens.  Less turnover prone and more likely to hit some open shots, at least.

I'd choose Bill Walker and JR over Wally in a heartbeat!

The only reason why I would consider them over Wally is that they already have guaranteed money, and I want the Celts to get the most bang for their buck to sustain the team over 3 years.

the next 3 years of Bill Walkers is all options, and nothings garunteed.

[GKC]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! He's horrible on the defensive end... He reminds me of when we were horrible... and HE IS JUST A HORRIBLE PLAYER.

Well he's up there on the all time list with 3PT Percentage.

Yeah, Wally World really isn't a bad player, he's just kinda limited at this point in his career.

But I'm willing to bet he'd be better for 10 ppg than Walker or Giddens.  Less turnover prone and more likely to hit some open shots, at least.

I'd choose Bill Walker and JR over Wally in a heartbeat!

The only reason why I would consider them over Wally is that they already have guaranteed money, and I want the Celts to get the most bang for their buck to sustain the team over 3 years.

the next 3 years of Bill Walkers is all options, and nothings garunteed.

Option for the 09-10 season has been picked up according to Hoopshype. So yeh, might as well isntead of spending 4 mill on Wally (vet min + tax)

[Scribbles]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! He's horrible on the defensive end... He reminds me of when we were horrible... and HE IS JUST A HORRIBLE PLAYER.

Well he's up there on the all time list with 3PT Percentage.

Yeah, Wally World really isn't a bad player, he's just kinda limited at this point in his career.

But I'm willing to bet he'd be better for 10 ppg than Walker or Giddens.  Less turnover prone and more likely to hit some open shots, at least.

I'd choose Bill Walker over Wally in a heartbeat!

What's better, Walker getting a few fouls in a small amount of time, missing a couple jumpers, getting a nice dunk or two, and turning over the ball a couple times, or Wally being kind of flammable on the defensive end and stretching the opposing defense (or punishing them for leaving him open)?

    Your making Bill Walker sound horrible. He's played 216 minutes in his career, Wally has 651 GAMES! The kid is only 21 years old and has alot of time to improve (if given the minutes)

    I'd rather a 21 year old kid with atheleticism that plays with no fear, than a 31 year old player who is strictly a 3PT shooter.

    Bill Walker is a couple thousand practice jumpshots away from being a good all around scorer off the bench, i mean he's throwing up pumpfakes from 3 then driving to the hole, he's never even made a three before and he's got the defense off balance. Imagine if he had even an "okay" outside shot?[/b]

all that being said:


Ray- House- Giddens
Pierce- Walker- Wally   

i could live with that.

Wally would be one of the last options if we missed out on Hill for small forward. 

The section I bolded...come on man this isn't middle school basketball. Teams do scouting.  That pump fake thing may work once or twice a game but after that its useless because Walker can't hit an outside shot consistently yet. 

Also we've been saying the same about Rondo the past couple of seasons...he's a couple thousand practice jumpers away from being just good to great.  Walker, much like Rondo so far, may never develop an outside shot.  Walker to me is a slightly taller, younger version of Tony Allen. And almost everyone dislikes Tony Allen.  At least Giddens in the SL has shown some versatility, however it is against inferior competition.  I'm with you though on Wally being a last option, but he would be an upgrade over Walker, because our bench does need another shooter.  We pretty much have House and Scal for outside shooters on the bench.  (I'm not counting Wallace because he's a big)

[2short]

wally is a 1 dimensional player at this point in his career (and when he was with us)
guy who can shoot from outside and i should add can pass well
can't play d, can run the court well enough
i'd rather that spot and minutes go to walker/giddens
How long would wally be playing in a game?  Not enough imo to warrant the spot or development of younger guys.
There are better choices out there for sf.
BATTIER!