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If true, great move: Dallas going after Marion in a sign-and-trade
« on: July 06, 2009, 10:23:00 PM »

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Source: CBS Sports via Rotoworld
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The Mavericks are trying to work out a sign-and-trade with the Raptors for Shawn Marion, according to CBS Sports.
The Raptors either have to renounce Marion (to clear cap space for Hedo Turkoglu's signing) or work out a sign-and-trade, though their reluctance to take back salary has complicated the matter. Jerry Stackhouse would likely be included in any deal, since his $7 million salary is only partially guaranteed for next season. The source cautioned that the deal "may or may not happen" so stay tuned for updates.

Kidd / Jo. Howard / Marion / Nowitzki / Gortat

with a bench of Jason Terry, Berea, Dampier, Matt Carroll is a nice lineup that would IMO challenge the Lakers --- thankfully.
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Re: If true, great move: Dallas going after Marion in a sign-and-trade
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2009, 10:25:32 PM »

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Also has the added benefit of keeping him away from the Cavs and Magic. It's Dice or guys like Bass for the Cavs and Magic if that happens..
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2009, 10:27:32 PM »

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good players, but doesnt strike me as a good defensive team.  defense wins titles, imo
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2009, 10:30:08 PM »

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Great!  Get Marion back in the West so he can bother Kobe.
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Re: If true, great move: Dallas going after Marion in a sign-and-trade
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2009, 10:39:14 PM »

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Quote from: dark_lord on July 06, 2009, 10:27:32 PM
good players, but doesnt strike me as a good defensive team.  defense wins titles, imo

It may not strike you, it doesn't me at first but:

- Kidd and Marion.  Both known for their defense.
- Josh Howard is actually a pretty solid perimeter defender
- Gortat is an excellent man-on-man post defender
- Barea is a scrapper/agitator
- Dampier is solid defensively as well


That's not to say that the guys I didn't mention aren't good at D, or that the team will play cohesive defense together, but they certainly have the makings of being a good defensive team personnel wise.
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Re: If true, great move: Dallas going after Marion in a sign-and-trade
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 10:47:23 PM »

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If true Dallas might very well contend next year. Adding Marion and Gortat is a pretty significant upgrade to their roster.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 10:51:47 PM »

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I like where they are headed...check out Dywer's take on the mavs..they are in a good place right now.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2009, 10:55:22 PM »

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Another possibility...if the raptors take on stackhouse and agree to a buyout..he'd make a heckuva backup to Ray
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2009, 11:05:58 PM »

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It's not true.

The Raptors can't take on any salary without significantly lowering their offer to Hedo Turkoglu. That $2mil of Stack's contract counts on their cap. Nothing to this rumour.
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2009, 11:07:20 PM »

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Quote from: Who on July 06, 2009, 11:05:58 PM
It's not true.

The Raptors can't take on any salary without significantly lowering their offer to Hedo Turkoglu. That $2mil of Stack's contract counts on their cap. Nothing to this rumour.

Excellent point. The only way they can do a sign+trade is like Seattle did with Rashard Lewis, right? Where they don't take anyone back
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2009, 11:37:37 PM »

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Quote from: IndeedProceed on July 06, 2009, 11:07:20 PM
Quote from: Who on July 06, 2009, 11:05:58 PM
It's not true.

The Raptors can't take on any salary without significantly lowering their offer to Hedo Turkoglu. That $2mil of Stack's contract counts on their cap. Nothing to this rumour.

Excellent point. The only way they can do a sign+trade is like Seattle did with Rashard Lewis, right? Where they don't take anyone back
Which was only possible because Orlando had cap space. If Portland wanted Marion they could do it, but they can just sign him with said space anyways.
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2009, 11:45:42 PM »

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Basically they'd have to give something to Oklahoma City to facilitate the deal and take Stackhouse with nothing going to Toronto outside of draft pick compensation.   
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2009, 11:59:53 PM »

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Quote from: Fafnir on July 06, 2009, 11:37:37 PM
Quote from: IndeedProceed on July 06, 2009, 11:07:20 PM
Quote from: Who on July 06, 2009, 11:05:58 PM
It's not true.

The Raptors can't take on any salary without significantly lowering their offer to Hedo Turkoglu. That $2mil of Stack's contract counts on their cap. Nothing to this rumour.

Excellent point. The only way they can do a sign+trade is like Seattle did with Rashard Lewis, right? Where they don't take anyone back
Which was only possible because Orlando had cap space. If Portland wanted Marion they could do it, but they can just sign him with said space anyways.

Portland was exactly my thinking. I wonder if Travis Outlaw is better than Shawn Marion?
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2009, 09:18:03 AM »

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They could trade Marion to Orlando in a similar type deal if Orlando wants to keep him away from Cleveland and is willing to give him more than the MLE.
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2009, 09:20:10 AM »

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send him west...means the cavs don't get anyone and the lakers have more teams to deal with
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