If not Hill then who?

[Fan from VT]

here's some possible Vet min/LLE options at the wing, along with their salary (in millions) last year and what they are known for:

Walter Hermann (Offense) 2.0
Dahntay Jones (Defense) .8
Quinton Ross (Defense) .8
Matt Barnes (Offense, Toughness) .8
Keith Bogans (Defense, 3's)) 2.6
Rodney Carney (Defense, 3's) 1.7 (rookie scale)
Des Mason (Defense) 5.3
Kareem Rush (3's, Defense) .8
Rashad McCants (Offense) 2.6 (rookie scale)
Anthony Parker (Defense, Shooting, but old) 5.6
Ime Udoka (Defense, 3's) 1.1
Jamario Moon (Athleticism) .71
Kleiza (all-around) 1.82 (rookie scale)
Warrick (athleticism, scoring) 2.1 (rookie scale)
Marquis Daniels (all-around, not outside shooting) 6.8

[P2]

Well, the number one option would be Anthony Parker.  Beyond that...well, I'm not ready to think about it yet.

Dahntay Jones, Keith Bogans, Von Wafer, Ime Udoka, Matt Barnes. There are a lot of options for backup wing this year.

[Chris]

Well, the number one option would be Anthony Parker.  Beyond that...well, I'm not ready to think about it yet.

Dahntay Jones, Keith Bogans, Von Wafer, Ime Udoka, Matt Barnes. There are a lot of options for backup wing this year.

Yeah, I think all of them (except MAYBE Udoka) are a significant step down from Parker and Hill, so I prefer to wait before thinking about a team where guys like that are the first wings off the bench.  I am still a bit scarred from last year's debacle.

[the_Bird]

See, I think there's room for a Ross or an Udoka or someone of that ilk even if we DO sign Grant Hill.  You can't count on getting any productive minutes from Tony Allen (who should be traded) or Billy Walker or Giddens.  I like the idea of House playing alongside Grant Hill.  I'm not sure there's a point guard we're likely to sign that'll be a better fit next to House than Grant Hill will be.  So, instead of forcing minutes to someone like Ty Lue, go for someone who can take some of the defensive pressure.  Let House be the backup PG, assisted by Hill, with Ross or Udoka or someone like that to help play D. 

We didn't lose last year just because KG and Powe were hurt; we lost because Pierce and Ray Allen were worn down.  Get them some help, get a couple of legitimate rotation guys in there who can help keep their minutes down in the regular season.  Grant Hill would be a great pickup, but he's not enough.

[Fred Roberts]

What is up with Ty Lue? I haven't seen that guy do anything in about 7 years. Please keep that spot open when Marbury smartens up to the offer we made.

[BASS_THUMPER]

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[Fan from VT]

Well, the number one option would be Anthony Parker.  Beyond that...well, I'm not ready to think about it yet.

Dahntay Jones, Keith Bogans, Von Wafer, Ime Udoka, Matt Barnes. There are a lot of options for backup wing this year.

Yeah, I think all of them (except MAYBE Udoka) are a significant step down from Parker and Hill, so I prefer to wait before thinking about a team where guys like that are the first wings off the bench.  I am still a bit scarred from last year's debacle.

I don't know, I'd take Wafer with the LLE if possible.

Hollinger's scouting report:

Von Wafer (unrestricted, Rockets)
Another 23-year-old who still has plenty of upside to explore, Wafer is a knockdown shooter who can also put it on the floor and use his athleticism to score at the trim.

While his defense is a work in progress and his passing only a rumor, he averaged 19.9 points per 40 minutes for Houston last season while shooting 39.0 percent on 3s. He's also an unrestricted free agent and the Rockets are facing luxury tax issues, meaning he might be had for the right price. As a source of bench scoring, you could do plenty worse, especially since he has enough upside to eventually start.

we could probably use some of that.

[Actionjakson]

I'd Like Von Wafer alot. He can hit the tree ball and Throw down (except when he got hung on that dunk attempt last year against the celts). Plus he can play d. He isnt really a 3 but thats ok. I like his game a lot.

[Actionjakson]

By the way, Von Wafer is only 23. Unfotrunately he is only 6'5" so he would have trouble playing the three. He would seem kinda redundant with SKywalker, Giddens, TA, and Himself. I love his game tho

[Chris]

I like Wafer as a 4th or 5th wing, but not the first wing off the bench.  You want to have either a more dynamic offensive player (meaning, someone who can actually pass the ball), or if they are really just a shooter, then they should be able to defend.  

But if they can get him for the vet minimum (unlikely), then he would be a nice addition for depth.

[kenmaine]

Let me see, we're not signing Big Baby or Leon, but debating over which of these scrubs or senior citizens to sign?
This off-season is looking worse than last years. I'm not liking the direction Danny is going. You just don't blow up a championship team for no good reason.

is it blowing it up, when its the bench?

i agree he did horribly last offseason not bringing in guys to fill roles on the bench.  i wish we had posey, but agreed with ainge's decision not to give him the amount of yrs posey was looking for.

leon or bbd might be back. i would take one sheed over both of them.

offseason isnt done yet, there will be more pieces of the puzzle.

OK guys, maybe "blowing it up" is overstating it, but since the title, Posey, Baby, and Leon are gone. All three were solid contributors. And it looks like the writing is on the wall regarding Rondo getting a fair contract from Danny next year(I really hope I'm wrong there).
I like Rasheed Wallace.
 Don't want Grant Hill-the Griffey Jr. of basketball, too many injuries. And what little I saw of him last year was not impressive.
 I'd keep Scal, he can actually play you know.
Just dump TA, he's had his chances, ditto for Pruitt.
PLEASE no more 7ft. stiffs with potential. 6'9" with strength and heart is big enough.
 Don't use Eddie House as backup pg- he's so much better as a pure shooter. Just bring in someone who can bring the ball upcourt and not turn it over for about ten minutes/game, and if Marbury is the best option, then sign him.
Fire Doc if he keeps using Pierce and Ray for 40 minutes/game.
And if KG can come back 100% and Pierce and Perk stay healthy, it will all be OK.

[tenn_smoothie]

I originally was saying Bruce Bowen, but I love the versatility of Walter Herrmann. He big enough and active enough to get rebounds and play pesky long arm defense, but he's got a nice shooting touch from behind the arc. I just hope Detroit hasn't ruined his nba experience and forced him back to Argentina or Euro leagues.

My other signings that I'd make would be...

Resign Powe for 1 year to prove his knee hasn't ruined him.
Resign Marbury for more than the minimum, but more more than 2 over 2yrs
Resign BBD for 3-4 mil over 3 years(or wait for the first team to offer him something similar then match-I dont feel he's worth 5-6 yet)
Resign Mikki Moore for vet min. He's not the greatest backup, but he can play the 4 or 5 and can be our dependable 4/5th string big man.
TRADE Tony Allen for a better shooting versatile SG/SF like Thabo Sefolosha or packaged with Scal for Rasual Butler and Devin Brown

you & i think alike ........ that's exactly the direction i would go with this team - although i might package tony allen and jr giddens and keep scalabrine - scal makes a bad 6th man but is a very good 10th or 11th man he can contribute directly to winning games and plays decent defense, he's versatile and is a team guy.

[cornbreadsmart]

the only thing marbury did poorly was shoot. that will come back. wish we could get him to sign.

[BASS_THUMPER]

kenmaine said....

 "I'd keep Scal, he can actually play you know."







i thought i was alone.

[timepiece33]

I'd say Mason first, because of his defensive ability on the wing. He is versatile and can offer a stopper unlike Barnes who is not very good defensively (tweener).   

I'd say Barnes 2nd because of his versatility offensively.