Rondo vs Parker

[jv2764]

I actually think Parker may be underpaid if that's believable.  These deals are based on potential and you have to ask yourself can you see Rondo in two years being the ball player Parker is now. 

i get your overall point, but no way is parker underpaid. what is he, 3rd or 4th highest paid, behind cp3 and billups.

what do you think he should be paid? the max?  lets not forget the argument that people use against rondo (he plays with HOFs)...parker plays with the guy who is arguably the best player since the greatest player of all time

Dont know where he slots.  I know he signed for 6 years for 66M after his rookie deal.  I put him behind CP3 but I take him over Billups.  If he was on the open market now I think he would command more than $11M a year I do believe. 
True he has played with TD but TD is a shell of himself these last two years.

[Truck Lewis]

but PGs dont win ships...and only a few guys are paid more than him....and both have solid credentials

not sayin billups deserves more money...but that happens...but being the 3rd highest paid at your position isnt really underpaid

[jv2764]

I hear ya man.  The first thing that struck me was when I saw his AAV was $11M.  I just thought it would be higher cnosidering the guy has been a Finals MVP.  All in all I say San Antonio has gottten their money's worth and then some.

[Moranis]

Parker makes 12.6 million this year.  Billups is at 12.1 million. 

Chris Paul and Deron Williams both make over a million more than Parker does this year.  Steve Nash makes over 13 million this year.  Of the true PG's it is just those guys.  Thus Parker is the fourth highest paid PG, which seems to make sense.  I'm also not counting pseudo PG's like Arenas and Wade who both make more than Parker.

[2short]

I myself dont think Rondo is an $11 Million a year player yet and until he develops an outside shot and improves his free throw shooting I dont think he ever gets to that level. 

If Rondo develops his outside shot and improves his FT shooting, he's a max contract player.

The ft shooting is a big thing to me.  You have Ray Allen on your team at ft shooting is just practice.  I think Rondo is a few years away from a max player.  Rondo's defense took a knock this year but I feel it was his ankles.  At the start of the season rondo's d was great, 2 or 3 times during the year when we knew he was having ankle issues you saw him playing more standing up.  At these times he couldn't stay with his man so was going with the dj poke.  Maybe I'm overzealous about his defense but I feel it needs defending
pun intended
What pg would you trade rondo for even up, contracts aside

[kazakia]

Parker is a better player than Rondo CURRENTLY however if both were to go into the FA im pretty sure Rondo's contract will not be less than Parkers contract due to his great potential etc.

[Bankshot]

Rondo needs to shoot better (especially free throws) if he wants to be on Parker's level.

[wdleehi]

Parker is on the level we hope Rondo reaches. 

But he hasn't yet, so his contract worth is less then Parker.

[Truck Lewis]

All in all I say San Antonio has gottten their money's worth and then some.

that, i completely agree with

[BballTim]

Parker is on the level we hope Rondo reaches. 

But he hasn't yet, so his contract worth is less then Parker.

  But Parker wasn't on the level he is now when he signed that contract. Other young players sign contracts based on the expectation that they'll be better during the contract than they are when they sign it. Rondo's no different.

[paintitgreen]

Parker is on the level we hope Rondo reaches. 

But he hasn't yet, so his contract worth is less then Parker.

  But Parker wasn't on the level he is now when he signed that contract. Other young players sign contracts based on the expectation that they'll be better during the contract than they are when they sign it. Rondo's no different.

Very true. If memory serves correct, Parker signed this contract before winning Finals MVP in 2007. His game has actually made tremendous leaps the past three seasons. That's part of the reason I probably would ultimately give Rondo the $12 mil per year. Even recognizing that it might turn out to be bad value, there's potential that we'd actually be getting a huge bargain with more consistency and a more reliable open shot.

[snively]

Parker's the better scorer and shooter, Rondo's the better passer, defender and rebounder. 

If you need a first, second or third option on offense, Parker is much better for that role.  If you already have first, second and third options on offense and need someone to create opportunities for those scorers by penetrating and passing, grabbing boards, getting steals and helping on D, than Rondo's better for the job.  Rondo may have a ways to go to become a go to scorer, but he's already better at his role than Parker would ever be.

The risk with Rondo is that he will never develop into a Parker level scorer and thus require Big 3 level scorers surrounding him to thrive.  Given the expense levied on scoring ability in the NBA, where even inefficient volume scorers can command top dollar, could make building around Rondo difficult.  Thus given the salary cap, it's especially important to sign Rondo for as low a figure as possible to round out the roster with scorers. 

[jv2764]

I myself dont think Rondo is an $11 Million a year player yet and until he develops an outside shot and improves his free throw shooting I dont think he ever gets to that level. 

If Rondo develops his outside shot and improves his FT shooting, he's a max contract player.

The ft shooting is a big thing to me.  You have Ray Allen on your team at ft shooting is just practice.  I think Rondo is a few years away from a max player.  Rondo's defense took a knock this year but I feel it was his ankles.  At the start of the season rondo's d was great, 2 or 3 times during the year when we knew he was having ankle issues you saw him playing more standing up.  At these times he couldn't stay with his man so was going with the dj poke.  Maybe I'm overzealous about his defense but I feel it needs defending
pun intended
What pg would you trade rondo for even up, contracts aside

Contracts aside I would take Parker over Rondo AT THIS POINT.  I can only go by what I see at this point.  If you could guarantee me that Rondo shooting would improve then I dont make the move but thats a gigantic IF!