Break Down the Big Minutes

[PosImpos]

Let's say we have an ideal off-season and we sign Sheed and resign BBD, then maybe pick up a 5th big who can play backup C (for the minimum).  Let's say...Robert Swift (we could just as easily say Oberto as an alternative).

Break down the minutes for me:

Starting: Kevin Garnett (PF)
Starting: Kendrick Perkins (C)
Bench: Rasheed Wallace (PF / C)
Bench: Big Baby Davis (PF)
Bench: Robert Swift (C)

There are a total of 96 minutes (48x2) that can be allotted for the PF and C positions.

My guess would be the following:

K.G.: 30-35 minutes @ PF
Perkleton: 30-35 minutes @ PF
Sheed: 15-20 minutes
BBD: 10 - 20 minutes
Swifty: 0 (plays if there are injuries or a blowout)

People seem to want to sign Baby and Sheed very badly, but the problem I see is it will be difficult to keep playing KG and Perk a lot - as much as they have been played when they don't get into foul trouble - and still give both Sheed and Baby the kind of minutes they'll want. 

KG, I'm sure, isn't used to playing less than 35 minutes a game, but I'd say that would actually be a good thing.  Keep him french.  Giving Perk minutes in the low 30s each night probably would be fine too.  He wouldn't have to worry about accruing fouls so much.

However, with Sheed on the bench we really only need BBD to play 10-15 minutes a night, but I imagine he'd be unhappy if he went from a starter to playing spot minutes as the 4th big.  Rasheed certainly won't be thrilled if he doesn't have a very significant role off the bench, and that would be much worse than BBD being disgruntled.

What do you think?  Should we make resigning BBD a priority if we sign Rasheed, in light of the potential playing time issues?

[winsomme]

Let's say we have an ideal off-season and we sign Sheed and resign BBD, then maybe pick up a 5th big who can play backup C (for the minimum).  Let's say...Robert Swift (we could just as easily say Oberto as an alternative).

Break down the minutes for me:

Starting: Kevin Garnett (PF)
Starting: Kendrick Perkins (C)
Bench: Rasheed Wallace (PF / C)
Bench: Big Baby Davis (PF)
Bench: Robert Swift (C)

There are a total of 96 minutes (48x2) that can be allotted for the PF and C positions.

My guess would be the following:

K.G.: 30-35 minutes @ PF
Perkleton: 30-35 minutes @ PF
Sheed: 15-20 minutes
BBD: 10 - 20 minutes
Swifty: 0 (plays if there are injuries or a blowout)

People seem to want to sign Baby and Sheed very badly, but the problem I see is it will be difficult to keep playing KG and Perk a lot - as much as they have been played when they don't get into foul trouble - and still give both Sheed and Baby the kind of minutes they'll want. 

KG, I'm sure, isn't used to playing less than 35 minutes a game, but I'd say that would actually be a good thing.  Keep him french.  Giving Perk minutes in the low 30s each night probably would be fine too.  He wouldn't have to worry about accruing fouls so much.

However, with Sheed on the bench we really only need BBD to play 10-15 minutes a night, but I imagine he'd be unhappy if he went from a starter to playing spot minutes as the 4th big.  Rasheed certainly won't be thrilled if he doesn't have a very significant role off the bench, and that would be much worse than BBD being disgruntled.

What do you think?  Should we make resigning BBD a priority if we sign Rasheed, in light of the potential playing time issues?

I think if we add Baby and Sheed we're pretty much done in the front court because we also already have Scals.

KG
Perk
Sheed
Baby
Scals

That's a deep and flexible front court.

Perk - basically a straight up C
Sheed - can play C and PF
KG - can play C and PF
Baby - can play C and PF
Scals - can play PF and a bit at SF if necessary.

[BudweiserCeltic]

30 KG, especially coming off his injury.
25 Perk
25 Sheed
16 Baby

With that said, I think sheed will play closer to 30, Perk closer to 20 if not more by getting minutes away from Baby.

In all, in order of minutes played... this will be it:

KG
Sheed
Perk

and way down Baby.

[celticinorlando]

sheed can spell both KG and perk. i expect to see him in there with the starting four quite a bit...

[PosImpos]

I think if we add Baby and Sheed we're pretty much done in the front court because we also already have Scals.

KG
Perk
Sheed
Baby
Scals

That's a deep and flexible front court.

Perk - basically a straight up C
Sheed - can play C and PF
KG - can play C and PF
Baby - can play C and PF
Scals - can play PF and a bit at SF if necessary.

Yeah, you're right...we probably wouldn't need anybody if we consider Scal our 5th big.  But the problem I see is that if Sheed is injured then we'd only have Big Baby as a backup C and Scal as our backup PF (when both our starters are on the bench).

We've all seen that a front court of Big Baby and Scal is not so great.

I'd like to have a backup C as a 5th big just in case Rasheed gets injured at some point.  If we hold onto Scal, he'll be our 12th man.

[BudweiserCeltic]

The next step is signing a backup center. That's it.

Having Baby back is a luxury at the moment... a luxury we can afford, and should get.

We're quite deep at the 4. We need to solidify the 5.

[PosImpos]

The next step is signing a backup center. That's it.

Having Baby back is a luxury at the moment... a luxury we can afford, and should get.

We're quite deep at the 4. We need to solidify the 5.

Yeah, I agree.  Although with Sheed I think if Robert Swift (project) or Oberto (quasi-stiff vet) will be enough on that front.

[winsomme]

Yeah, you're right...we probably wouldn't need anybody if we consider Scal our 5th big.  But the problem I see is that if Sheed is injured then we'd only have Big Baby as a backup C and Scal as our backup PF (when both our starters are on the bench).

We've all seen that a front court of Big Baby and Scal is not so great.

I'd like to have a backup C as a 5th big just in case Rasheed gets injured at some point.  If we hold onto Scal, he'll be our 12th man.

true, but honestly I'm not sure that we can add anybody for a minimum salary that would be better than Baby even at center....he's not perfect at center, but he could manage until whoever is injured comes back...

[celticinorlando]

baby makes the 4 solid...sheed can play both the 4 and 5....maybe we get luck with swift...i expect boston to go all in for a wing next...then try to find a cheap point

[winsomme]

The next step is signing a backup center. That's it.

Having Baby back is a luxury at the moment... a luxury we can afford, and should get.

We're quite deep at the 4. We need to solidify the 5.

I'd rather get Baby than a backup center. he's better IMO than anybody we could get at the minimum and he can play center if he has to.

[PosImpos]

The next step is signing a backup center. That's it.

Having Baby back is a luxury at the moment... a luxury we can afford, and should get.

We're quite deep at the 4. We need to solidify the 5.

I'd rather get Baby than a backup center. he's better IMO than anybody we could get at the minimum and he can play center if he has to.

Big Baby is heavy enough to play center but I'm not wild about a guy who is 6'8'' (on a good day) playing center.  He's too small to hang out down low, he's much better as a PF who can move around a bit more.

[winsomme]

baby makes the 4 solid...sheed can play both the 4 and 5....maybe we get luck with swift...i expect boston to go all in for a wing next...then try to find a cheap point

yeah wing and Baby are the priorities IMO....they will play.

[winsomme]

The next step is signing a backup center. That's it.

Having Baby back is a luxury at the moment... a luxury we can afford, and should get.

We're quite deep at the 4. We need to solidify the 5.

I'd rather get Baby than a backup center. he's better IMO than anybody we could get at the minimum and he can play center if he has to.

Big Baby is heavy enough to play center but I'm not wild about a guy who is 6'8'' (on a good day) playing center.  He's too small to hang out down low, he's much better as a PF who can move around a bit more.

true, but he's the 4th string C at that point. Perk, KG and Sheed all can play C.

[guava_wrench]

What position Baby will play depends upon how much weight he loses.

He still had a momentum problem last season. Once he starts running, he can't stop his mass until he runs someone over. Losing some more weight should help.

[drza44]

If they really do make it official on Sheed, I don't know that they'll match on Baby if he gets a good offer.  Considering how far over the Luxury Tax the Celts would already be, I don't see them shelling out multiple years of Midlevel-type money to Baby if he's going to play 10 minutes/game.  I think if Sheed comes on board and Baby gets a midlevel offer from any other team, he's gone.