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What to get for big baby?
« on: July 04, 2009, 08:21:18 PM »

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If Tanguay is right, BBD is heading out the door.  That being said, if he ends up getting the full MLE what could The Celts get for him in a sign & trade?

Sticking with Tanguay, he mentioned 5 teams interested in Davis: Dallas, San Antonio, Detroit, New York & Memphis.

Can you make a sign & trade proposal with one of these 5 teams that works?

MLE = $5.4 (roughly)


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My thought: (please dissect)

To Detroit:
Davis
Allen & Scal (both expiring contracts totaling 5.7)
Total $$ 11.2

To Boston
Rip Hamilton
Total $$  $10.8

This works for Detroit because Rip is now redundant with Gordon and it brings them Davis plus 5.7 in expiring contracts

This works for Boston because it brings a high quality back up for Paul & Ray.  Combine it with a Sheed signing and I would think the Celts would be the faves to win.

What do you think about this and what can you propose?

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Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2009, 08:37:06 PM »

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Sticking with Tanguay, he mentioned 5 teams interested in Davis: Dallas, San Antonio, Detroit, New York & Memphis.
I don't think a single one of those teams is going to offer Davis a contract.

Anyway, I don't think you get anything from a Davis sign and trade. Teams are apprehensive enough about giving him money and years ... I don't think they're giving up talent on top of the contract to get Davis on their team, too high a cost for Davis.

Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 02:17:59 PM »

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If Tanguay is right, BBD is heading out the door.  That being said, if he ends up getting the full MLE what could The Celts get for him in a sign & trade?

Sticking with Tanguay, he mentioned 5 teams interested in Davis: Dallas, San Antonio, Detroit, New York & Memphis.

Can you make a sign & trade proposal with one of these 5 teams that works?

MLE = $5.4 (roughly)


--------------------

My thought: (please dissect)

To Detroit:
Davis
Allen & Scal (both expiring contracts totaling 5.7)
Total $$ 11.2

To Boston
Rip Hamilton
Total $$  $10.8

This works for Detroit because Rip is now redundant with Gordon and it brings them Davis plus 5.7 in expiring contracts

This works for Boston because it brings a high quality back up for Paul & Ray.  Combine it with a Sheed signing and I would think the Celts would be the faves to win.

What do you think about this and what can you propose?

Happy 4th.



I think that would be a great trace for the C's. We get Rip, sign Sheed with the MLE,

We can use the LLE to get a PG and still have the vet min. to offer a guy like Wilcox or a summer league guy(Swift, Fazekas, or Sweetney). We could also use the vet min. to re-sign LEON.

second unit

PG-Tyrone Lue
2G-Eddie
SF-Rip
PF-Wilcox
C-Sheed

That second unit could really score, but don't know how sound defensively it would be.

Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 02:22:07 PM »

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Sticking with Tanguay, he mentioned 5 teams interested in Davis: Dallas, San Antonio, Detroit, New York & Memphis.
I don't think a single one of those teams is going to offer Davis a contract.

Anyway, I don't think you get anything from a Davis sign and trade. Teams are apprehensive enough about giving him money and years ... I don't think they're giving up talent on top of the contract to get Davis on their team, too high a cost for Davis.

Where did you hear of this apprehension?  Got some links for this?
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Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 02:24:16 PM »

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I say they get a 3 year contract starting at 2.5 million a year for Big Baby.

Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2009, 02:31:24 PM »

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I say they get a 3 year contract starting at 2.5 million a year for Big Baby.

That would be awesome, but I think he get 3 mil.
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Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2009, 02:33:06 PM »

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Ideally for Davis if we did a sign+trade, assuming that BBD signed a deal worth around 5 million per, we'd get a first rd pick and a 2.5 million trade exception.

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Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 02:45:43 PM »

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Sticking with Tanguay, he mentioned 5 teams interested in Davis: Dallas, San Antonio, Detroit, New York & Memphis.
I don't think a single one of those teams is going to offer Davis a contract.

Anyway, I don't think you get anything from a Davis sign and trade. Teams are apprehensive enough about giving him money and years ... I don't think they're giving up talent on top of the contract to get Davis on their team, too high a cost for Davis.

Where did you hear of this apprehension?  Got some links or this?
Apprehension = my opinion

Based on Davis receiving no strong interest from any teams. No contract offers despite being five days into free agency.

Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2009, 02:49:28 PM »

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Sticking with Tanguay, he mentioned 5 teams interested in Davis: Dallas, San Antonio, Detroit, New York & Memphis.
I don't think a single one of those teams is going to offer Davis a contract.

Anyway, I don't think you get anything from a Davis sign and trade. Teams are apprehensive enough about giving him money and years ... I don't think they're giving up talent on top of the contract to get Davis on their team, too high a cost for Davis.

Where did you hear of this apprehension?  Got some links or this?
Apprehension = my opinion

Based on Davis receiving no strong interest from any teams. No contract offers despite being five days into free agency.

Oh I see.  You made the comment like you read it somewhere.  My mistake.
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Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2009, 02:51:29 PM »

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Ideally for Davis if we did a sign+trade, assuming that BBD signed a deal worth around 5 million per, we'd get a first rd pick and a 2.5 million trade exception.

I don't get why Boston would do a sign and trade if the reason he isn't resigned is because the amount is to high.  That doesn't pass the logic test.
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Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2009, 02:52:51 PM »

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How about a sign and trade with Memphis that breaks down something like this:

Boston Out: Glen Davis

Incoming: Mike Conley Jr.

Memphis Outgoing: Mike Conley JR

Memphis Incoming: Glen Davis

With Memphis' interest in Iverson, and the fact that they will eventually have to move OJ to the point, that gives them the PF they need when Randolph inevitably destructs. We can also throw in TA and maybe recieve one of their back up bigs (Hadaddi).

Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2009, 02:59:00 PM »

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How about a sign and trade with Memphis that breaks down something like this:

Boston Out: Glen Davis

Incoming: Mike Conley Jr.

Memphis Outgoing: Mike Conley JR

Memphis Incoming: Glen Davis

With Memphis' interest in Iverson, and the fact that they will eventually have to move OJ to the point, that gives them the PF they need when Randolph inevitably destructs. We can also throw in TA and maybe recieve one of their back up bigs (Hadaddi).

Mike Conley to back up Rondo?  I like that.
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Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2009, 03:06:42 PM »

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I could go for that, but I would prefer Rudy and Conley...maybe we throw in Scal, TA, and future picks.

Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2009, 03:12:20 PM »

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Ideally for Davis if we did a sign+trade, assuming that BBD signed a deal worth around 5 million per, we'd get a first rd pick and a 2.5 million trade exception.

I don't get why Boston would do a sign and trade if the reason he isn't resigned is because the amount is to high.  That doesn't pass the logic test.

5 million per without bird rights means that is the entire MLE. That is too high. I think that logic is sound.

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Re: What to get for big baby?
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2009, 03:18:12 PM »

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I imagine teams have contacted Baby. We contacted 10 FAs immediately and we can't read who in the press. But it seems clear that he is no ones first choice.

As other FAs get signed, I expect him to get offers. Thing is, he is an RFA. Signing RFAs is a pain because they might have to wait a while before the Celtics decide whether to match. That could cause a team to miss backup options.