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John Hollinger's take on Big Baby's Worth
« on: July 02, 2009, 05:44:30 PM »

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From ESPN sportsnation chat:

McQ (Boston)Is Big Baby Davis going to see any real money? He had a good, not great playoffs and is still a small yet overweight 4? Or am I underrating him?

John Hollinger:
real money? No. doubt he even gets midlevel. More like three years, $10 mil
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Re: John Hollinger's take on Big Baby's Worth
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2009, 05:44:57 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 05:46:03 PM »

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I'd match that.

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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 05:47:16 PM »

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better the other teams tell him and he comes back here with something to prove.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 05:54:55 PM »

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better the other teams tell him and he comes back here with something to prove.

Yep.  And we get him for a fair price.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 06:03:40 PM »

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that is a a nice contract which boston will match...sheed and baby off the bench with eddie would be a good start

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 06:05:50 PM »

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I am all for signing him for 3 years at 10 mill thats a great deal for the C's.

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 06:16:27 PM »

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I am all for signing him for 3 years at 10 mill thats a great deal for the C's.


Especially since we sadly don't have to worry about paying Powe too.

I would have taken Powe 100 times out of 100 over Davis, but Davis is a nice fall-back plan.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 06:16:58 PM »

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I think that is more in line with what he will likely get however I think you need to ask yourself this question. Will bringing Sheed and another big in push this guy farther down the bench? Will he end up going multiple game stretches without seeing floor time? Is he really ever going to be more than a backup at best? If that is the case, won't he just be the next "Scal" that we are complaining about?!

If I don't think the guy has legitimate chance at being a starter someday, then I let him go. He's just not that good. I really think he has peaked. I'd sign him for 1 year at more money over a 3 year deal. Commit 4 mil for next with a team option for the second. Then if he does improve, or grow 4-5 inches in the next couple years,  you negotiate a longer term deal the middle of 2011.

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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 06:18:15 PM »

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I am all for signing him for 3 years at 10 mill thats a great deal for the C's.


Especially since we sadly don't have to worry about paying Powe too.

I would have taken Powe 100 times out of 100 over Davis, but Davis is a nice fall-back plan.

Just don't let Davis "fall back" on you. Think Geico commercial...

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2009, 07:53:41 PM »

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If I don't think the guy has legitimate chance at being a starter someday, then I let him go. He's just not that good. I really think he has peaked. I'd sign him for 1 year at more money over a 3 year deal. Commit 4 mil for next with a team option for the second. Then if he does improve, or grow 4-5 inches in the next couple years,  you negotiate a longer term deal the middle of 2011.

How has he peaked?  Simply by virtue of the fact that he played better than you ever thought he would?

Fact is, Baby's still overweight and is in the process of adding a 3 point shot to his game.  The kid has a WAY to go before he peaks.  Even if he stays fat, simply adding a 3 point shot will get him a 10 year career in the NBA.  3 or 4 million per is a good, fair contract for him, given his current production and what he could turn into in the next 3 seasons.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2009, 08:01:22 PM »

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I think that is more in line with what he will likely get however I think you need to ask yourself this question. Will bringing Sheed and another big in push this guy farther down the bench? Will he end up going multiple game stretches without seeing floor time? Is he really ever going to be more than a backup at best? If that is the case, won't he just be the next "Scal" that we are complaining about?!

If I don't think the guy has legitimate chance at being a starter someday, then I let him go. He's just not that good. I really think he has peaked. I'd sign him for 1 year at more money over a 3 year deal. Commit 4 mil for next with a team option for the second. Then if he does improve, or grow 4-5 inches in the next couple years,  you negotiate a longer term deal the middle of 2011.
yep
i think davis $ can be spent elsewhere, to bad we couldn't get something for him in trade but I'd use the $ for sf, if swift makes the team for c we have perk, sheed, garnett, swift
pf garnett, sheed, scal (powe!)

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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2009, 08:01:29 PM »

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If I don't think the guy has legitimate chance at being a starter someday, then I let him go. He's just not that good. I really think he has peaked. I'd sign him for 1 year at more money over a 3 year deal. Commit 4 mil for next with a team option for the second. Then if he does improve, or grow 4-5 inches in the next couple years,  you negotiate a longer term deal the middle of 2011.

How has he peaked?  Simply by virtue of the fact that he played better than you ever thought he would?

Fact is, Baby's still overweight and is in the process of adding a 3 point shot to his game.  The kid has a WAY to go before he peaks.  Even if he stays fat, simply adding a 3 point shot will get him a 10 year career in the NBA.  3 or 4 million per is a good, fair contract for him, given his current production and what he could turn into in the next 3 seasons.

Why does he necessarily have a WAY to go before he peaks?! It's no different than me saying that he doesn't. Its my opinion. When this turns into a provable facts only board let me know...

If you think the guy has any chance of developing a 3 point shot then you're nuts! He has a hideous 17-18 footer that he has to fling at the basket. Add 5-7 more feet and he might as well throw it one handed up there. I bet BBD doesn't even think he could ever develop a 3. Let's let the guy shoot a 15 footer consistently before you have the guy as a rainmaker...

Considering he will never be a great shooter, a great rebounder, taller, better jumper, I'd say the guy has come close to peaking. Back yours up please.

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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2009, 08:07:45 PM »

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If I don't think the guy has legitimate chance at being a starter someday, then I let him go. He's just not that good. I really think he has peaked. I'd sign him for 1 year at more money over a 3 year deal. Commit 4 mil for next with a team option for the second. Then if he does improve, or grow 4-5 inches in the next couple years,  you negotiate a longer term deal the middle of 2011.

How has he peaked?  Simply by virtue of the fact that he played better than you ever thought he would?

Fact is, Baby's still overweight and is in the process of adding a 3 point shot to his game.  The kid has a WAY to go before he peaks.  Even if he stays fat, simply adding a 3 point shot will get him a 10 year career in the NBA.  3 or 4 million per is a good, fair contract for him, given his current production and what he could turn into in the next 3 seasons.

Why does he necessarily have a WAY to go before he peaks?! It's no different than me saying that he doesn't. Its my opinion. When this turns into a provable facts only board let me know...

If you think the guy has any chance of developing a 3 point shot then you're nuts! He has a hideous 17-18 footer that he has to fling at the basket. Add 5-7 more feet and he might as well throw it one handed up there. I bet BBD doesn't even think he could ever develop a 3. Let's let the guy shoot a 15 footer consistently before you have the guy as a rainmaker...

Considering he will never be a great shooter, a great rebounder, taller, better jumper, I'd say the guy has come close to peaking. Back yours up please.

"hideous" jumper? Was that what that game winner was?


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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2009, 08:17:58 PM »

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I don't know... Maxwell says $10 million a year  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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