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My ideal Offseason
« on: June 26, 2009, 01:20:59 PM »

Offline Richard6xdx

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I think this would be my ideal off season.

Trade

Scalabrini, Tony Allen, & Giddens

Receive

Leo Barbosa


Sign

Tony Battie,Glen Davis MLE, Anthony Parker MLE, McDyess LLE,




This would be my ideal team below



Pierce   Parker    Walker
KG   Baby      Powe
Rondo   Barbosa   Lester
Perkins   Battie    McDyess LLE
Allen   House   (Need to sign a cheap back up shooting guard )

We can always wait until the trade deadline to see if a back up shooting guard gets cut.  I think we can take it all with this line up.  Orlando, I personally think gave up way too much to get Carter. 

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009, 01:38:25 PM »

Offline mkogav

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Why would the Suns give away Barbosa for nothing? They are dumping, but he's cheap ($6 millon per) and young.

Battie = over the hill

Dice and Parker would be gr8 to land.

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Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2009, 01:39:33 PM »

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I love the team you put together, but I think it is unrealistic for BBD, McDyess and Parker to split the MLE (to put it in perspective, they would each be receiving less than $2M -- is that enough to entice any of them?).

The trade for Barbosa could be nice, though.  I guess it depends how much Steve Kerr is going to blow up the team...
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Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2009, 01:42:01 PM »

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I love the Anthony Parker suggestion and if for some reason the Suns actually consider that deal, that'd be great as well.  But, it's my understanding that the Celtics can re-sign BBD without it counting towards any exception and also (I think it was) Marc Spears reported that Dice is a huge Detroit guy and won't chase a championship.

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2009, 01:43:45 PM »

Offline Richard6xdx

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Scalabrini, & Tony Allen have one year left on their contracts.  Barbosa has 3 years. It would free up money for the Suns to reload in the 2010 free agent market.   

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009, 01:47:03 PM »

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That would be sweet if we can resign Baby without using the MLE.  There are other guys out there that can be had if McDyess choses to sign with Detroit.  There are some teams that are having financial problems and dont want to spend the money in a bad economy.  Even if we substitute Pachulia for McDyess we are still in very good shape.  Barbosa only played slightly over 25 mins and avg 12-14 pts.  Thats pretty impressive to me.

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2009, 02:13:48 PM »

Offline Chief33B

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The Celtics have Big Baby's Bird Rights so they can resign him without using any of the MLE .

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2009, 02:20:02 PM »

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I like Anthony Parker for the MLE.  We're probably going to have to spend it on a big, though, even if we get BBD back.

I also think signing Quinton Ross, Keith Bogans, or somebody similar to the minimum as a 3rd wing off the bench would be a good idea.
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Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2009, 02:43:04 PM »

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Anthony Parker's not worth the whole MLE. McDyess is worth more than Parker.

I'd love it, but I agree the Barbosa part is unrealistic.
Go Celtics.

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2009, 02:54:42 PM »

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I really like the idea of getting Barbosa.  I think he can play a scoring 1 and a very quick 2 coming off the bench, which he likes to do anway.  However, am I the only one that thinks Dice adds very little to this team?  He is again, we all know that.  But watching him for the Pistons (and we know they had very little to play for, but he still had to prove he's still got it) he did not look good.  He was too slow, too short, and was getting banged around.  The only thing that he can still do well is shoot, and we don't need a big man on the perimeter shooting.  We need another guy that can bang (hopefully with HEIGHT) to help out Perk.  (Powe can help a little if he comes back, and BBD does on offense).  I would much rather see Gortat in green than Dice.  He's younger, more athletic, better defender, and he has just been sitting and waiting for his chance to showcase himself.  Thoughts?

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2009, 02:57:58 PM »

Offline Richard6xdx

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How about if we did this instead, in case you think the Barbosa trade wont happen


Pierce /A Parker MLE/ Walker
Allen  /Tony Allen/
Rondo  /House/Lester  
KG     /Big Baby / Powe
Perk/McDyess MLE/ Battie LLE


We can wait on the Giddens, Scals, Tony trade to the deadline. Maybe Barbosa or someone else can be had then.  

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2009, 03:00:00 PM »

Offline Richard6xdx

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I have a feeling that someone like New York will overpay Gortat and offer him the full MLE.  I think in order for us to fill all of our holes we need to split the MLE.   We have too many holes to fill to give it all to one guy. 

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2009, 03:02:31 PM »

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While I'm at it, I don't think Zaza brings anything except a servicable and cheap big man.  Gortat, Sheed, Birdman, these are the kinds of guys we should be looking for.  Granted they might comand a higher price, but adding Zaza or Dice could cost us almost as much money and prove to do very little.  Can you honestly picture either of those guys going toe to toe with either Howard or Shaq?  Even BBD was struggling.  I CAN, however, picture Gortat (who went shoulder to shoulder with Perkins through the series) holding his own (his height helps) or Birdman making up for it with his athletisism, or Sheed with his skill/length.  I just can't see an old Dice trying to dig in with Shaq/Howard on his hip.  We would be right back to the playoffs where we either go small, or hope Perk plays unbelievable.

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2009, 03:08:55 PM »

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I'd trust McDyess or Pachulia banging with Howard (Shaq won't be playing any more minutes than Perk so I think that's irrelevant) as much as I'd trust Gortat and more than I'd trust Birdman in that situation. So I'd go with the most cost efficient option, which probably won't be Gortat, Birdman or Pachulia.

Then again, if Detroit does what's been rumored and picks up Boozer and Gordon to go with Stuckey, Rip, Prince and Maxiell, I think McDyess will resign there. If they can afford it (they may be limited to a minimum contract at that point).

And I agree that the MLE should be split to fill our biggest needs - a backup big man who's taller than 6'10" and a bigger backup wing (6'7" at least, I hope).
Go Celtics.

Re: My ideal Offseason
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2009, 03:09:37 PM »

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I just think we have too many holes to fill.  Thats all.  I would look to have Sheed or Gortat.  But I have a feeling they will require the full MLE.  We really need something that can back up Pierce and also fill in to back up Ray Allen.  Not a 1 year rental, but someone that is young and we can sign for 3 years.  It seems like every year we are scrambling to get bench players.  We need some kind of stability at the SF back up position.  Thats just my take.  If we can get Gortat for half the MLE than I am all for it. If not, then I would settle for Zaza