Glen Davis and Leon Powe

[beantownboy171]

I've been thinking alot about what we do about them. But first I have to ask, is there even a market for these two players right now? What teams a really looking to add these guys.

I think us celtics fans might be overrating them, and it might be alot easier to get them back then we all think.

Obviously their restricted free agents and we can match any offer, but I don't see any team offering more money then we'd already be willing to pay. Which for me is 3-4 for glen and 2 for powe.

What do you guys think?

[celticinorlando]

resign baby...sign powe to the lowest contract around and see i his knee holds up when he returns in the middle of the season

[bobdelt]

Well, how many knee injuries does this make for Powe?

I'm mean, we dont have to sign him until he's healthy? I dont think another team will.

BBD - I'd give him a super low contract - but I think he'll want more. But idk, the nostalgia of that shot wore off, I dont think he deserves more than 2-3 million.

[paintitgreen]

I think you're right. If we moved on in the playoffs, Davis might have an argument for more, but we didn't. Now it just looks like a lucky open shot that he made. Great play, but not to be confused with great player. I agree, the market for Big Baby will not be huge.

[KungPoweChicken]

I hope Powe is in a Celtics uniform next year. He's tough as nails and the epitome of what being a Celtic is all about.

[Scalablob990]

I've been thinking alot about what we do about them. But first I have to ask, is there even a market for these two players right now? What teams a really looking to add these guys.

I think us celtics fans might be overrating them, and it might be alot easier to get them back then we all think.

Obviously their restricted free agents and we can match any offer, but I don't see any team offering more money then we'd already be willing to pay. Which for me is 3-4 for glen and 2 for powe.

What do you guys think?

If Glen gets more then 3 mil i'd let him walk. Wrong to say, but Leon would play for cheap, and he's proven he's a true Celtic the past 3 years.

[Bankshot]

I hope Powe is in a Celtics uniform next year. He's tough as nails and the epitome of what being a Celtic is all about.

Not me.  I don't think he's going to be ready to play until late next season and he probably won't be effective until the following season, if at all.  I'd rather not waste a roster spot on him.

We need to re-sign Baby.  With Shaq coming back to the East, we're going to need Baby.  Seems that he and Perk are the only ones that can reasonably defend Howard and Shaq and keep them away from the paint.

[crownsy]

I hope Powe is in a Celtics uniform next year. He's tough as nails and the epitome of what being a Celtic is all about.

Not me.  I don't think he's going to be ready to play until late next season and he probably won't be effective until the following season, if at all.  I'd rather not waste a roster spot on him.

We need to re-sign Baby.  With Shaq coming back to the East, we're going to need Baby.  Seems that he and Perk are the only ones that can reasonably defend Howard and Shaq and keep them away from the paint.

we are currently wasting roster spots on JR giddeons, gabe pruitt, and mr. potential bill walker, and if your in a certain camp i belong to, tony allen.

surely either JR or pruitt (my choice by far) can be cut to keep a proven NBA rotation player as our 15th man until he's ready rather than let him walk for no good reason.

We're willing to praise danny for taking brainless projects on to be our 14th and 15th man because they are "no risk, all reward!" but once it's one of our own proven player's who's the semi project we can't afford to risk the roster spot over giants like JR, walker, pruitt, and TA.

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[wdleehi]

I think both will come back.



I actually have more doubts about Powe coming back right away.  I could see the Celtics use his roster spot for someone else until he is healthy, and then try and bring him back.  Really depends on how that injury adds ontop of his past injuries.

[Bankshot]

I hope Powe is in a Celtics uniform next year. He's tough as nails and the epitome of what being a Celtic is all about.

Not me.  I don't think he's going to be ready to play until late next season and he probably won't be effective until the following season, if at all.  I'd rather not waste a roster spot on him.

We need to re-sign Baby.  With Shaq coming back to the East, we're going to need Baby.  Seems that he and Perk are the only ones that can reasonably defend Howard and Shaq and keep them away from the paint.

we are currently wasting roster spots on JR giddeons, gabe pruitt, and mr. potential bill walker, and if your in a certain camp i belong to, tony allen.

surely either JR or pruitt (my choice by far) can be cut to keep a proven NBA rotation player as our 15th man until he's ready rather than let him walk for no good reason.

We're willing to praise danny for taking brainless projects on to be our 14th and 15th man because they are "no risk, all reward!" but once it's one of our own proven player's who's the semi project we can't afford to risk the roster spot over giants like JR, walker, pruitt, and TA.

Only on celticsblog.

Letting him walk for no good reason?  How about him being injured and likely not effective anymore?

[bobdelt]

I hope Powe is in a Celtics uniform next year. He's tough as nails and the epitome of what being a Celtic is all about.

Not me.  I don't think he's going to be ready to play until late next season and he probably won't be effective until the following season, if at all.  I'd rather not waste a roster spot on him.

We need to re-sign Baby.  With Shaq coming back to the East, we're going to need Baby.  Seems that he and Perk are the only ones that can reasonably defend Howard and Shaq and keep them away from the paint.

we are currently wasting roster spots on JR giddeons, gabe pruitt, and mr. potential bill walker, and if your in a certain camp i belong to, tony allen.

surely either JR or pruitt (my choice by far) can be cut to keep a proven NBA rotation player as our 15th man until he's ready rather than let him walk for no good reason.

We're willing to praise danny for taking brainless projects on to be our 14th and 15th man because they are "no risk, all reward!" but once it's one of our own proven player's who's the semi project we can't afford to risk the roster spot over giants like JR, walker, pruitt, and TA.

Only on celticsblog.

Well the problem with your thinking, is that you're taking the thoughts of many, an combining them as if it was one person.

Some people feel one way, some people feel another. But you can't just assume everyone feels both ways because they post on the same blog.

And for Powe, it'll be a long time before he sees the court again. This isn't his first serious knee injury. He slid so far in the draft because people thought he wouldn't be able to stay healthy.

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

I've been thinking alot about what we do about them. But first I have to ask, is there even a market for these two players right now? What teams a really looking to add these guys.

I think us celtics fans might be overrating them, and it might be alot easier to get them back then we all think.

Obviously their restricted free agents and we can match any offer, but I don't see any team offering more money then we'd already be willing to pay. Which for me is 3-4 for glen and 2 for powe.

What do you guys think?

If Glen gets more then 3 mil i'd let him walk. Wrong to say, but Leon would play for cheap, and he's proven he's a true Celtic the past 3 years.

He's also proven his knees are terrible and that he still doesn't have a jumper - BBD trumps Powe in both areas.

[powefan]

Sign Powe for cheap.  Yes he's had another injury.  He has also already proven he can come back from the injury strong.  Medically speaking, talk to a orthopedic surgeon and they will tell you that having an injury like Leon's does not place you at greater risk for having that injury again.  Microfracture surgery is not the risk it used to be-- a lot of the recovery depends upon how hard the patient works in their rehab. and a full recovery is very likely.   Does anyone honestly think that working hard in rehab. will be an issue for Leon?  Nobody works harder than he does.  he will most likely be back, and playing his usual hard-nosed ball.

If the C's don't sign him, then it is very possible another team picks him up for cheap-- or he becomes a free-agent and no guarantee he signs with the C's when healthy again.  

I think the C's can afford to use a roster spot for him.

[Marqui]

BBD - I'd give him a super low contract - but I think he'll want more. But idk, the nostalgia of that shot wore off, I dont think he deserves more than 2-3 million.

2-3 million is exactly the range he deserves. Anybody that thinks hes worth 3+ is crazy.

With Powes heavy injury history, hes only worth the near minimum to me.

[Jon]

If they can bring back both, great, but I don't think either are going to be the second coming of Chauncey Billups or Joe Johnson--players we're kicking ourselves for letting go years later. 

That said, I think it largely depends on what happens on the free agent market.  If Dice comes aboard and say Tony Battie gets bought and comes aboard, I'm not sure then if we're going to be all that worried about Big Baby coming back.  While it'd be nice to have both Baby and Powe, there's really only room for one of them in a rotation if we actually have real backup centers.  If Baby has outrageous contract demands, we certainly could survive with a 4/5 rotation of KG/Perk/Dice/Battie/Scal until Powe came back for the playoffs.