The Impact of KG's Injury on Rondo's "attitidue"

[Jon]

I'll keep this short and sweet.

Anyone else think that some of Rondo's behavioral issues might have been related to the fact that KG wasn't on the court (or even on the bench much of the time) the latter half of the season?  Sure you can say that he was around, but I think KG in street clothes is a far cry from KG in uniform and on the court in terms of intensity and scariness. 

Anyone else think that when KG steps on the court and screams at Rondo to get on the same page as everyone else that Rondo will fall into line and these problems will go away?  Because I do. 

[Rondo2287]

yo, we get it, you dont wanna trade Rondo

[BudweiserCeltic]

No.

[CoachBo]

No.

[pengaloo]

I'll keep this short and sweet.

Anyone else think that some of Rondo's behavioral issues might have been related to the fact that KG wasn't on the court (or even on the bench much of the time) the latter half of the season?  Sure you can say that he was around, but I think KG in street clothes is a far cry from KG in uniform and on the court in terms of intensity and scariness. 

Anyone else think that when KG steps on the court and screams at Rondo to get on the same page as everyone else that Rondo will fall into line and these problems will go away?  Because I do. 

Funny... if KG's on the court and screams at people, that's considered intensity. Whatever it is that Rondo does is considered an attitude problem.

[jdpapa3]

I think it is a decent proposal. The talk of his stubborn ways seems to be all about his rookie season and then the latter half of last season. You might be onto something, Jon.

But what about when Rondo is making 9-10 million a year and KG is retired?

[Jon]

I think it is a decent proposal. The talk of his stubborn ways seems to be all about his rookie season and then the latter half of last season. You might be onto something, Jon.

But what about when Rondo is making 9-10 million a year and KG is retired?

If we win another title or two before that happens, I'll deal with those consequences.  Plus, KG is here at least through 2012, so at least 2 years of a 5 year contract would be with KG around. 

[jdpapa3]

Is it possible that it is Rondo the player and the person would both significantly contribute to him being on the trading block? I think that is likely.

I remember that Doc interview where he said "Rondo will always have trouble in the playoffs" because of his poor shooting. Is that something you say about the next cornerstone of your franchise?

[Evantime34]

If Rondo needs KG to control him so he isn't difficult, then he isn't a max contract player and should be traded before he gets that max contract.

[Jon]

If Rondo needs KG to control him so he isn't difficult, then he isn't a max contract player and should be traded before he gets that max contract.

Under most circumstances I'd agree with you; however, we're in a very unique situation with our aging core.  If Rondo signs a 5 year, 50 million dollar deal, stays under control for two years, wins #18 and #19, then I'll deal with whatever happens the last three years.  Besides, that's three more seasons he has to mature.  And come 2012-2013 if KG retires, the C's will need at least a year to figure out if Rondo can do it without KG.  If he can't, by the 2013-2014 season he'll only have two years left anyway, so we can just trade him as an expiring contract by the summer of 2014. 

Overall, I'll deal with whatever baggage comes later if we win another title or two. 

[BballTim]

I'll keep this short and sweet.

Anyone else think that some of Rondo's behavioral issues might have been related to the fact that KG wasn't on the court (or even on the bench much of the time) the latter half of the season?  Sure you can say that he was around, but I think KG in street clothes is a far cry from KG in uniform and on the court in terms of intensity and scariness. 

Anyone else think that when KG steps on the court and screams at Rondo to get on the same page as everyone else that Rondo will fall into line and these problems will go away?  Because I do. 

  Anyone else think that Rondo's behavioral issues are fairly typical for a young player in the league and that he'll outgrow them? Or that maybe people here have him under a microscope and are making a mountain out of a molehill?

[bballdog384]

No.

No.

[moiso]

It's ridiculous to me how people seem to think KG is a personal psychologist for every troubled player.  It doesn't work that way.  With every trade proposal for a jerk like Artest, Rasheed, Iverson, etc, people always say its ok because KG will control them.  Trade for Zach Randolph and KG will make him a great defender!  It's just ridiculous.  Remember, KG played with a lot of bums on the Wolves that he didn't seem to positively influence.  Olowakandi, Ricky Davis, Blount, McCants.  KG is a great leader, but he doesn't have the ability to change player's personalities.

[Fan from VT]

I honestly wonder how much of Rondo's "attitude problem" is fear/jealousy from team veterans that Rondo just as deserving of the offensive load as Pierce and Allen, and is getting better while those two decline, but the management is trying to take PP/RA's side to keep them happy.

Think of it this way: what if it's that Pierce, Allen, KG and Rondo all want 1/3 of the offense? Rondo's no idiot, he knows he's got great skill. If that's the case, does Rondo have the problem just because he's younger and has exceeded expectations and is infringing on the older guys' turf? If so, that sounds like a lousy reason to sell him off for 75 cents.

[BASS_THUMPER]

he is a pro

he should already know how to act
no man should have to be his pops on the floor and and keep him in check