Author Topic: Dog Behavior (Split from Pierce Twitter thread) (Read 13503 times)

Eja117 · « **on:** June 18, 2009, 04:08:34 PM »

When I was about 13 I was attacked by two rottweillers (one of them had three legs) and fought them off. But my cousin-in-law has a badazz one that scares the begessus out of me.

My bro brought home a pit bull one time that had a demon in it. Unreal.

TruthSerum · « **Reply #1 on:** June 18, 2009, 04:33:43 PM »

He can spell people when they're tired

Redz · « **Reply #2 on:** June 18, 2009, 09:44:13 PM »

Quote from: eja117 on June 18, 2009, 04:08:34 PM

When I was about 13 I was attacked by two rottweillers (one of them had three legs) and fought them off. But my cousin-in-law has a badazz one that scares the begessus out of me.

My bro brought home a pit bull one time that had a demon in it. Unreal.

Not saying there aren't bad pitbulls, but my bro in law owns one, and he is a total muscle headed lamb of a dog. I had some serious trepidations when he first brought that doggy in the presence of my children, but honestly, I think my kids stand more of a chance of getting knocked over by our spazzy black lab, then they do getting attacked by "Guiness". Pit Bulls' disposition (and all dogs really) has to do with how they are trained.

Eja117 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2009, 03:35:27 AM »

Quote from: Redz on June 18, 2009, 09:44:13 PM

Quote from: eja117 on June 18, 2009, 04:08:34 PM
When I was about 13 I was attacked by two rottweillers (one of them had three legs) and fought them off. But my cousin-in-law has a badazz one that scares the begessus out of me.

My bro brought home a pit bull one time that had a demon in it. Unreal.

Not saying there aren't bad pitbulls, but my bro in law owns one, and he is a total muscle headed lamb of a dog. I had some serious trepidations when he first brought that doggy in the presence of my children, but honestly, I think my kids stand more of a chance of getting knocked over by our spazzy black lab, then they do getting attacked by "Guiness". Pit Bulls' disposition (and all dogs really) has to do with how they are trained.

I'm working thru my fear of dogs. The bad one chomped grandma on Christmas completely unprovoked. Ran at her from 3 rooms away. We strongly suspect bad things happened to that dog. A former top college football recruit owned her and the recruit gave him to my bro when he was kicked off the team.
However my bro brought home another one that is very friendly. But it's still extremely powerful. When it "nips" unprovoked it seems like it could take a small hand off without trying.
WEEI (the morning guys) were discussing this a few weeks ago a pitbull owner called in saying poddles have the most accidents but they were like "Yeah but when a poodle has an accident it doesn't end up in the hospital or dead"

The bad pit bull got put down. Some horrible incident was forseeable. Later a dog trainer told me the dog didn't deserve that. I said "To quote Clint Eastwood from Unforgiven 'deserving has nothing to do with it'" Then he said "In a fudged up way I sorta understand that"

I still feel bad for the dog. I am not an animal person. I don't hate Mike Vick or bull fighters. But I don't even swat mosquitos. Unless they go after my boy. That's different.

RockinRyA · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2009, 04:46:04 AM »

a few years ago i gave a rottweiler puppy to my girlfriend as a gift

to months later i was already regretting it as im now having a hard time entering their house

Eja117 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:45:22 AM »

If there is an animal expert in the house feel free to correct me but you have to totally dominate it, but not in a cruel way. It is essentially a wolf who wants to know who is alpha male and if you aren't it, he will try to be and dominate his area. Once you have dominated it you have to expose it to people as much as possible in a very careful, gradual way and you have to do this quickly while it's a puppy. If you don't it could get very dangerous. Sooner or later it will get out and if it comes into contact with an 8 year old what happens? You'd much rather it bite the kid than kill the kid and you'd way rather it bark than bite

ACF · « **Reply #6 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:21:11 AM »

The couple that live in the apartment
just above ours have a pittbull-type
dog named Cesar. He's one of the "nicest"
dogs I've ever seen. This has led me to
believe there are no bad dogs, only bad
people who happen to own dogs.

nickagneta · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:39:03 AM »

Quote from: eja117 on June 19, 2009, 05:45:22 AM

If there is an animal expert in the house feel free to correct me but you have to totally dominate it, but not in a cruel way. It is essentially a wolf who wants to know who is alpha male and if you aren't it, he will try to be and dominate his area. Once you have dominated it you have to expose it to people as much as possible in a very careful, gradual way and you have to do this quickly while it's a puppy. If you don't it could get very dangerous. Sooner or later it will get out and if it comes into contact with an 8 year old what happens? You'd much rather it bite the kid than kill the kid and you'd way rather it bark than bite

Actually dominate it but psychologically not physically.

You need to train the dog from a young age and the proper way to do it is through walking it regularly in the correct manner and then training the dog while it is tired. reward proper behavior and correct improper behavior.

Dogs do not understand punishment. Corrective behavior they understand. When done properly, it doesn't matter how big or tough the dog, it will have a submissive personality and remain calm at all times.

Eja117 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:40:55 AM »

Quote from: nickagneta on June 19, 2009, 11:39:03 AM

Quote from: eja117 on June 19, 2009, 05:45:22 AM
If there is an animal expert in the house feel free to correct me but you have to totally dominate it, but not in a cruel way. It is essentially a wolf who wants to know who is alpha male and if you aren't it, he will try to be and dominate his area. Once you have dominated it you have to expose it to people as much as possible in a very careful, gradual way and you have to do this quickly while it's a puppy. If you don't it could get very dangerous. Sooner or later it will get out and if it comes into contact with an 8 year old what happens? You'd much rather it bite the kid than kill the kid and you'd way rather it bark than bite
Actually dominate it but psychologically not physically.

You need to train the dog from a young age and the proper way to do it is through walking it regularly in the correct manner and then training the dog while it is tired. reward proper behavior and correct improper behavior.

Dogs do not understand punishment. Corrective behavior they understand. When done properly, it doesn't matter how big or tough the dog, it will have a submissive personality and remain calm at all times.

When my bro slaps its nose I consider it physical and also we would aggressively pat the other one to show we were bigger, stronger, and not afraid, and surprisingly it really calmed it down.

ACF · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:41:29 AM »

Quote from: nickagneta on June 19, 2009, 11:39:03 AM

Quote from: eja117 on June 19, 2009, 05:45:22 AM
If there is an animal expert in the house feel free to correct me but you have to totally dominate it, but not in a cruel way. It is essentially a wolf who wants to know who is alpha male and if you aren't it, he will try to be and dominate his area. Once you have dominated it you have to expose it to people as much as possible in a very careful, gradual way and you have to do this quickly while it's a puppy. If you don't it could get very dangerous. Sooner or later it will get out and if it comes into contact with an 8 year old what happens? You'd much rather it bite the kid than kill the kid and you'd way rather it bark than bite
Actually dominate it but psychologically not physically.

You need to train the dog from a young age and the proper way to do it is through walking it regularly in the correct manner and then training the dog while it is tired. reward proper behavior and correct improper behavior.

Dogs do not understand punishment. Corrective behavior they understand. When done properly, it doesn't matter how big or tough the dog, it will have a submissive personality and remain calm at all times.

Take it from dog owner # 1 here at CB

Eja117 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:41:58 AM »

Quote from: Amager Celtic Fan on June 19, 2009, 11:21:11 AM

The couple that live in the apartment
just above ours have a pittbull-type
dog named Cesar. He's one of the "nicest"
dogs I've ever seen. This has led me to
believe there are no bad dogs, only bad
people who happen to own dogs.

I have to disagree. This is like saying there are no bad wolves, only bad people who own them. It depends how wolfish it is.

ACF · « **Reply #11 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:46:21 AM »

Quote from: eja117 on June 19, 2009, 11:41:58 AM

Quote from: Amager Celtic Fan on June 19, 2009, 11:21:11 AM
The couple that live in the apartment
just above ours have a pittbull-type
dog named Cesar. He's one of the "nicest"
dogs I've ever seen. This has led me to
believe there are no bad dogs, only bad
people who happen to own dogs.

I have to disagree. This is like saying there are no bad wolves, only bad people who own them. It depends how wolfish it is.

I am not stating that it's a fact.
I am saying that "it has led me to
believe"... There's a difference.
I'm a cat person myself.

Ask Nick about this, please.

nickagneta · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:50:56 AM »

Quote from: eja117 on June 19, 2009, 11:40:55 AM

Quote from: nickagneta on June 19, 2009, 11:39:03 AM
Quote from: eja117 on June 19, 2009, 05:45:22 AM
If there is an animal expert in the house feel free to correct me but you have to totally dominate it, but not in a cruel way. It is essentially a wolf who wants to know who is alpha male and if you aren't it, he will try to be and dominate his area. Once you have dominated it you have to expose it to people as much as possible in a very careful, gradual way and you have to do this quickly while it's a puppy. If you don't it could get very dangerous. Sooner or later it will get out and if it comes into contact with an 8 year old what happens? You'd much rather it bite the kid than kill the kid and you'd way rather it bark than bite
Actually dominate it but psychologically not physically.

You need to train the dog from a young age and the proper way to do it is through walking it regularly in the correct manner and then training the dog while it is tired. reward proper behavior and correct improper behavior.

Dogs do not understand punishment. Corrective behavior they understand. When done properly, it doesn't matter how big or tough the dog, it will have a submissive personality and remain calm at all times.

When my bro slaps its nose I consider it physical and also we would aggressively pat the other one to show we were bigger, stronger, and not afraid, and surprisingly it really calmed it down.

You are teaching the dog aggression if you slap its nose. If the dog nips it is because it is either insecure, trying to tell you something or is frustrated from not expending enough energy. I dog like a rottweiler or pit bull probably needs to be walked twice a day for 45-60 minutes per walk. When the dog does something wrong immediately correct the action. If a dog nips and you slap it, especially as a puppy, it will think you are playing or fighting with it. These are naturally aggressive dogs. Never teach that.

If the dog nips confront the dog and push it back sternly with your hand to its side. This distracts the dog and causes it to concentrate on you. Use a corrective noise. A shush or a clap of the hands. When the dog hears this they know this is improper behavior. If this behavior continues, then you must dominate the dog physically but not harmfully. Take the dog, put it on its side, hold it down securely near the jaw/neck area and hold him/her there until they submit to you which means that when you let go the dog remains lying on its side. The dog will then understand you are its alpha and will take corrections.

But it is imperative to exercise the dog. Always. A tired dog is a non frustrated dog and is an east to tame and train dog.

Eja117 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2009, 11:55:40 AM »

Quote from: nickagneta on June 19, 2009, 11:50:56 AM

Quote from: eja117 on June 19, 2009, 11:40:55 AM
Quote from: nickagneta on June 19, 2009, 11:39:03 AM
Quote from: eja117 on June 19, 2009, 05:45:22 AM
If there is an animal expert in the house feel free to correct me but you have to totally dominate it, but not in a cruel way. It is essentially a wolf who wants to know who is alpha male and if you aren't it, he will try to be and dominate his area. Once you have dominated it you have to expose it to people as much as possible in a very careful, gradual way and you have to do this quickly while it's a puppy. If you don't it could get very dangerous. Sooner or later it will get out and if it comes into contact with an 8 year old what happens? You'd much rather it bite the kid than kill the kid and you'd way rather it bark than bite
Actually dominate it but psychologically not physically.

You need to train the dog from a young age and the proper way to do it is through walking it regularly in the correct manner and then training the dog while it is tired. reward proper behavior and correct improper behavior.

Dogs do not understand punishment. Corrective behavior they understand. When done properly, it doesn't matter how big or tough the dog, it will have a submissive personality and remain calm at all times.

When my bro slaps its nose I consider it physical and also we would aggressively pat the other one to show we were bigger, stronger, and not afraid, and surprisingly it really calmed it down.
You are teaching the dog aggression if you slap its nose. If the dog nips it is because it is either insecure, trying to tell you something or is frustrated from not expending enough energy. I dog like a rottweiler or pit bull probably needs to be walked twice a day for 45-60 minutes per walk. When the dog does something wrong immediately correct the action. If a dog nips and you slap it, especially as a puppy, it will think you are playing or fighting with it. These are naturally aggressive dogs. Never teach that.

If the dog nips confront the dog and push it back sternly with your hand to its side. This distracts the dog and causes it to concentrate on you. Use a corrective noise. A shush or a clap of the hands. When the dog hears this they know this is improper behavior. If this behavior continues, then you must dominate the dog physically but not harmfully. Take the dog, put it on its side, hold it down securely near the jaw/neck area and hold him/her there until they submit to you which means that when you let go the dog remains lying on its side. The dog will then understand you are its alpha and will take corrections.

But it is imperative to exercise the dog. Always. A tired dog is a non frustrated dog and is an east to tame and train dog.

Why does my bro seem to get such good results from the slapping? It also follows commands very well, but just gets excited

Chris · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2009, 12:26:30 PM »

Quote from: Redz on June 18, 2009, 09:44:13 PM

Pit Bulls' disposition (and all dogs really) has to do with how they are trained.

Agree completely. While there are breeds that are more dangerous than others, due to their size, or particular characteristics, the biggest reason certain Dogs are more prone to attack people or other animals is because of the way they are brought up.

Let's face it, a lot of the people who own Pit Bulls, own them because they want an aggressive dog, who can protect them. They often train them to be aggressive, or in many cases, abuse them, making them aggressive.

Now, of course, these are still animals, and no matter how well trained they are, if you treat them in the wrong way, or threaten them, they will fight back. And this is where big, strong dogs like Pit Bulls can be dangerous, and why you should not have them around kids (who think playing with them involves pulling on their ears and trying to ride them), but if you don't abuse the dogs, and respect them for what they are, a pit bull can be just as safe as any other dog.

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