Glen Davis: To Re-sign, or not to Re-sign

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Did someone say ' cooking ' you've peaked my interest but, you are low balling me for 500 large?  And to be nice I would rather watch my 8 year old nephew struggle with jumpers than watch Powe.  Shooting jumpers isn't for everyone.

I would not want to see a leon powe jumpshot. Trying to recover from Rondo's chicken elbow jumper. Man that thing is ugly.

You know what, we have a deal at 4 mill Glen. I'll be mailing the contract tonight.

[Birdbrain]

I would rather watch my 8 year old nephew struggle with jumpers than watch Powe.  Shooting jumpers isn't for everyone.

Eh...  BBD's shot was pretty putrid at the beginning of last season, too.  The same can be said of Big Al and Perk when they were coming up through.  Now, all of those players have semi-reliable jump shots (with some better than others).  Why couldn't Powe add that aspect to his game?

No in fact I don't believe Powe would ever become an even decent 15 ft jump shooter.  He would have to relearn his whole shot.  His release is awful he looks like a robot.  He has no fluidity which even Rondo has to some extent.  Rondo's major problem is his release but, he's got so much athletic ability that I hold out hope they can fine tune his release in the next couple of seasons.  Again Perkins has a very nice release for his size his issue is no ark but, his form is good as well.

[Emperor Young]

I'd sign him only to trade him...

[crownsy]

I would probably go to at least 4 million a year.  Perks making 4.5 correct that seems about right then.

perk is a solid starter and defensive center, davis is a bench tweener with no above the rim game.

4 million is my very limit.

[hpantazo]

I would rather watch my 8 year old nephew struggle with jumpers than watch Powe.  Shooting jumpers isn't for everyone.

Eh...  BBD's shot was pretty putrid at the beginning of last season, too.  The same can be said of Big Al and Perk when they were coming up through.  Now, all of those players have semi-reliable jump shots (with some better than others).  Why couldn't Powe add that aspect to his game?

No in fact I don't believe Powe would ever become an even decent 15 ft jump shooter.  He would have to relearn his whole shot.  His release is awful he looks like a robot.  He has no fluidity which even Rondo has to some extent.  Rondo's major problem is his release but, he's got so much athletic ability that I hold out hope they can fine tune his release in the next couple of seasons.  Again Perkins has a very nice release for his size his issue is no ark but, his form is good as well.

I agree. When Powe shoots, he looks like he has something stuck up his rear end

[Chris]

To me, the big question with Davis is the length of the deal rather than the amount per year.  If he is willing to do 2 years at $4 million per, I would take it, since he does provide a lot of things to this team as a championship contender.  However, when you start going beyond 2 years, the per year average shoots down considerably.  I think I would hessitate to even give him $3 million per year for 3+ years.  I just see the C's as a very different team at that point, that will really need as much cap flexibility as possible, so having a backup big man like Davis on the books for too much money at that point could be dangerous.

Honestly though, I really think Davis and the C's will end up agreeing on a 2 year deal.  It makes sense for the team, because it does not kill them long term, but also allows them to take advantage of Davis' abilities as a role player for the "window".  And for Davis, I really don't think he will be getting the offers that he thinks he is worth this summer, given the other options out there, and the overall financial situation in the league (and so many teams saving space for next year).  If he is as confident as I think he is, he will be happy to get paid decently for 2 years, and then try to hit the open market again, with a more developed game, maybe another ring or two, and a lot more teams with open checkbooks.

[Birdbrain]

I would probably go to at least 4 million a year.  Perks making 4.5 correct that seems about right then.

perk is a solid starter and defensive center, davis is a bench tweener with no above the rim game.

4 million is my very limit.

Well I think BBD has more growth in him but, the C's and DA of course got a great deal with Perkins.  It's that sort of deal that makes me lean towards resigning Rondo this season.

[2short]

I would rather watch my 8 year old nephew struggle with jumpers than watch Powe.  Shooting jumpers isn't for everyone.

Eh...  BBD's shot was pretty putrid at the beginning of last season, too.  The same can be said of Big Al and Perk when they were coming up through.  Now, all of those players have semi-reliable jump shots (with some better than others).  Why couldn't Powe add that aspect to his game?

No in fact I don't believe Powe would ever become an even decent 15 ft jump shooter.  He would have to relearn his whole shot.  His release is awful he looks like a robot.  He has no fluidity which even Rondo has to some extent.  Rondo's major problem is his release but, he's got so much athletic ability that I hold out hope they can fine tune his release in the next couple of seasons.  Again Perkins has a very nice release for his size his issue is no ark but, his form is good as well.

I agree. When Powe shoots, he looks like he has something stuck up his rear end

Davis actually looks this way but it goes in...Powe's jumper the robot statement fits it to a tee.

[Mr October]

To me, the big question with Davis is the length of the deal rather than the amount per year.  If he is willing to do 2 years at $4 million per, I would take it, since he does provide a lot of things to this team as a championship contender.  However, when you start going beyond 2 years, the per year average shoots down considerably.  I think I would hessitate to even give him $3 million per year for 3+ years.  I just see the C's as a very different team at that point, that will really need as much cap flexibility as possible, so having a backup big man like Davis on the books for too much money at that point could be dangerous.

Honestly though, I really think Davis and the C's will end up agreeing on a 2 year deal.  It makes sense for the team, because it does not kill them long term, but also allows them to take advantage of Davis' abilities as a role player for the "window".  And for Davis, I really don't think he will be getting the offers that he thinks he is worth this summer, given the other options out there, and the overall financial situation in the league (and so many teams saving space for next year).  If he is as confident as I think he is, he will be happy to get paid decently for 2 years, and then try to hit the open market again, with a more developed game, maybe another ring or two, and a lot more teams with open checkbooks.

TP. Lots of good points there. When you look at the FA big man market, Davis isn't in the top 10. Our priority has to be to get a legit 4/5 with length that can play on both ends of the court.

Having said that, $10/3 should get it done. But again my priority is to go get a better first big off the bench.

[wdleehi]

I think there is an overestimation on what Davis (and many other Celtics role players) are going to be offered in this offseason.



NBA is tightening their belts.  It's not going to hurt the true stars.  But it will kill the amount of money the role players make.


I want him to be resigned.  And if another teams offers 3 million or more, I would be shocked. 

[Chris]

I think there is an overestimation on what Davis (and many other Celtics role players) are going to be offered in this offseason.



NBA is tightening their belts.  It's not going to hurt the true stars.  But it will kill the amount of money the role players make.


I want him to be resigned.  And if another teams offers 3 million or more, I would be shocked. 

I agree.  And since he is a restricted FA, I would be shocked if any team would even make an offer, if they aren't willing to go over $3 million. 

Therefore, Davis returns to Boston for a couple years, and then tries again.  It's a win-win.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I don't think there'll be much of a tightening of the wallets with players that are under the MLE, I think they'll make nearly what they would have otherwise. I think that the players that will be most affected are players that should make above the MLE but aren't really stars... someone like Ben Gordon for example. If anything contract lengths will be most affected.

I think Davis could find himself a 4 million offer easily in my opinion for 1 or 2 years. There's a lot of talk, but once the pressure of fielding championship material teams arises, players will get paid.

[wdleehi]

I don't think there'll be much of a tightening of the wallets with players that are under the MLE, I think they'll make nearly what they would have otherwise. I think that the players that will be most affected are players that should make above the MLE but aren't really stars... someone like Ben Gordon for example. If anything contract lengths will be most affected.

I think Davis could find himself a 4 million offer easily in my opinion for 1 or 2 years. There's a lot of talk, but once the pressure of fielding championship material teams arises, players will get paid.

Teams will be less willing to spend all or part of the MLE. 


Players are already feeling this trend.

Donyell Marshall would like to continue to playing in the NBA, but he told the Philadelphia Daily News that the economy may force him into early retirement.

"I've played 14 years, and normally there might be teams that would keep a player like me to help work with the younger guys. But the economy hurts everybody; teams are making cuts they might not normally make. Maybe they only keep 13 or 14 players instead of 15, and that impacts somebody like me."

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