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Re: Lakers look likely to lose someone
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2009, 11:59:56 AM »

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The article also assumes Odom can be resigned for about $6M per year.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him get more than than (unless he takes a "hometeam" discount).  Odom could be an All Star in the East (challenging PP and Rashard Lewis), he now has his ring, and isn't it time to now get that one big paycheck?
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2009, 12:01:32 PM »

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The article also assumes Odom can be resigned for about $6M per year.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him get more than than (unless he takes a "hometeam" discount).  Odom could be an All Star in the East (challenging PP and Rashard Lewis), he now has his ring, and isn't it time to now get that one big paycheck?
His current contract was a pretty big one. I don't see him only getting 6 million. That is a nearly 50% pay cut.

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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2009, 12:28:28 PM »

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Yeah but he said he'd take a pay cut, and he likes living on the beach.

Re: Lakers look likely to lose someone
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2009, 12:42:33 PM »

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Yeah but he said he'd take a pay cut, and he likes living on the beach.

6 million dollars lost per year is not a pay cut, its insanity. He won't sign for that.
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Re: Lakers look likely to lose someone
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2009, 12:49:55 PM »

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Out of curiosity if this is happening to the Lakers does that mean this is happening to a lot of teams?

Re: Lakers look likely to lose someone
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2009, 12:57:22 PM »

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Yeah but he said he'd take a pay cut, and he likes living on the beach.

6 million dollars lost per year is not a pay cut, its insanity. He won't sign for that.

He made like 10 million this year. He's getting a paycut REGARDLESS of where he signs. If he gets an offer for 8 somewhere else, I think he stays in LA for 6 or so, if possible. .

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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2009, 01:11:26 PM »

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Yeah but he said he'd take a pay cut, and he likes living on the beach.

6 million dollars lost per year is not a pay cut, its insanity. He won't sign for that.

He made like 10 million this year. He's getting a paycut REGARDLESS of where he signs. If he gets an offer for 8 somewhere else, I think he stays in LA for 6 or so, if possible. .
He made 11.4 million last year. A 45% pay cut is a lot to swallow. Especially when this will be the last big contract Odom gets for his career. He'll sign for Antwan Jamison money.

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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2009, 01:26:48 PM »

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Yeah but he said he'd take a pay cut, and he likes living on the beach.

6 million dollars lost per year is not a pay cut, its insanity. He won't sign for that.

He made like 10 million this year. He's getting a paycut REGARDLESS of where he signs. If he gets an offer for 8 somewhere else, I think he stays in LA for 6 or so, if possible. .

why do you think he's going to get less than 10? He's being widely touted as one of the main reasons the lakers won.

I don't think its unreasonable for odom to get 9 to 10 million from a team. He's a very good player.
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Re: Lakers look likely to lose someone
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2009, 01:33:58 PM »

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supposedly all those extra home games during the playoffs netted the Lakers 40+ million.  I don't see why they wouldn't bring Odom and Ariza back. 
People said the same thing about Boston and signing talent, though.

I believe that must be true about the 40+ million.  I have 4 balcony season tickets and at our discounted prices, my friend and I were reimbursed $2,500 by the celtics losing to orlando.  Thats 4 very low priced tickets for just 2 out of the 4 possible series.  

If all the seats in the garden were priced the same as my row 8 balcony seats, then the celtics would have an extra $11+ million had they won the ECF and Finals with 4 home games each.  There are many tickets (the entire loge) with prices ranging from 2 to 10 times higher than my tickets too...

That said, $40+ million sounds very feasible over the course of the entire playoffs.  I'd guess the figure is significantly higher than that.


Interesting article about the celts profitability during the year 2008
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29600577/
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2009, 01:46:27 PM »

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He came off the bench last year. Bench players dont get 10+ million. He's got a bad back and he's rarely there. I dont think he gets another big contract.

Who is going to sign him? There are like four teams in the NBA with enough cap space to do that. And most of those teams are already looking to shed more salary.

Well see what actually happens, but I bet 100 tommy points that he resigns in LA for a considerable amount less than he's making now. He's already said he intends to do that.

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« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2009, 01:49:00 PM »

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supposedly all those extra home games during the playoffs netted the Lakers 40+ million.  I don't see why they wouldn't bring Odom and Ariza back. 
People said the same thing about Boston and signing talent, though.

I believe that must be true about the 40+ million.  I have 4 balcony season tickets and at our discounted prices, my friend and I were reimbursed $2,500 by the celtics losing to orlando.  Thats 4 very low priced tickets for just 2 out of the 4 possible series.  

If all the seats in the garden were priced the same as my row 8 balcony seats, then the celtics would have an extra $11+ million had they won the ECF and Finals with 4 home games each.  There are many tickets (the entire loge) with prices ranging from 2 to 10 times higher than my tickets too...

That said, $40+ million sounds very feasible over the course of the entire playoffs.  I'd guess the figure is significantly higher than that.


Interesting article about the celts profitability during the year 2008
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29600577/


I don't think he was disputing that the lakers made some extra bank off the home games, but rather that post-championship, the feeling on this board and in the local media was that players would fall over themselves on the way to signing for cheap with such a good team.

That was not the case.

Now, LA does have the one major advantage of being a warm weather city, which people constantly underrate. guys like matt barnes for instance, who told reporters it would have taken "significantly more money" for him to play in cold weather, are more the norm than the exception IMO, and that hurts most when filling in a bench.

A superstar is going to suck it up and play for the money, but if a bench guy has similar deals on the table, he's going to take the warm weather one over a team that plays a large part of its season in the dead of winter like us.
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Re: Lakers look likely to lose someone
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2009, 01:51:13 PM »

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He came off the bench last year. Bench players dont get 10+ million. He's got a bad back and he's rarely there. I dont think he gets another big contract.

Who is going to sign him? There are like four teams in the NBA with enough cap space to do that. And most of those teams are already looking to shed more salary.

Well see what actually happens, but I bet 100 tommy points that he resigns in LA for a considerable amount less than he's making now. He's already said he intends to do that.

He's a bench player who was largely acknowledged to be a all-star caliber player. I don't see manu getting any less money because of the "bench" tag.

He's the ultra talented 6th man of a championship team, HE's not going to get MLE offers at best. I will be you any amount of Tommy points he comes in at at least 8 million a year, probably more like 9 or 10 if he leaves the lakers.

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Re: Lakers look likely to lose someone
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2009, 02:10:39 PM »

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supposedly all those extra home games during the playoffs netted the Lakers 40+ million.  I don't see why they wouldn't bring Odom and Ariza back. 
People said the same thing about Boston and signing talent, though.

I believe that must be true about the 40+ million.  I have 4 balcony season tickets and at our discounted prices, my friend and I were reimbursed $2,500 by the celtics losing to orlando.  Thats 4 very low priced tickets for just 2 out of the 4 possible series.  

If all the seats in the garden were priced the same as my row 8 balcony seats, then the celtics would have an extra $11+ million had they won the ECF and Finals with 4 home games each.  There are many tickets (the entire loge) with prices ranging from 2 to 10 times higher than my tickets too...

That said, $40+ million sounds very feasible over the course of the entire playoffs.  I'd guess the figure is significantly higher than that.


Interesting article about the celts profitability during the year 2008
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29600577/


I don't think he was disputing that the lakers made some extra bank off the home games, but rather that post-championship, the feeling on this board and in the local media was that players would fall over themselves on the way to signing for cheap with such a good team.

That was not the case.

Now, LA does have the one major advantage of being a warm weather city, which people constantly underrate. guys like matt barnes for instance, who told reporters it would have taken "significantly more money" for him to play in cold weather, are more the norm than the exception IMO, and that hurts most when filling in a bench.

A superstar is going to suck it up and play for the money, but if a bench guy has similar deals on the table, he's going to take the warm weather one over a team that plays a large part of its season in the dead of winter like us.
Thanks for the assist crownsy, tp.

I just meant that a Finals run makes any team a lot of money. That doesn't mean they necessarily can sign everyone back at full market value, or will players take discounts to play for the "champs".

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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2009, 02:19:10 PM »

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He came off the bench last year. Bench players dont get 10+ million. He's got a bad back and he's rarely there. I dont think he gets another big contract.

Who is going to sign him? There are like four teams in the NBA with enough cap space to do that. And most of those teams are already looking to shed more salary.

Well see what actually happens, but I bet 100 tommy points that he resigns in LA for a considerable amount less than he's making now. He's already said he intends to do that.

He's a bench player who was largely acknowledged to be a all-star caliber player. I don't see manu getting any less money because of the "bench" tag.

He's the ultra talented 6th man of a championship team, HE's not going to get MLE offers at best. I will be you any amount of Tommy points he comes in at at least 8 million a year, probably more like 9 or 10 if he leaves the lakers.


the flaw in that logic is that there are almost no teams that are under the cap that would be willing to waste cap dollars next season to sign Ariza or Odom.  Virtually the only way either guy leaves is for the MLE.
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2009, 02:30:06 PM »

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He came off the bench last year. Bench players dont get 10+ million. He's got a bad back and he's rarely there. I dont think he gets another big contract.

Who is going to sign him? There are like four teams in the NBA with enough cap space to do that. And most of those teams are already looking to shed more salary.

Well see what actually happens, but I bet 100 tommy points that he resigns in LA for a considerable amount less than he's making now. He's already said he intends to do that.

He's a bench player who was largely acknowledged to be a all-star caliber player. I don't see manu getting any less money because of the "bench" tag.

He's the ultra talented 6th man of a championship team, HE's not going to get MLE offers at best. I will be you any amount of Tommy points he comes in at at least 8 million a year, probably more like 9 or 10 if he leaves the lakers.


the flaw in that logic is that there are almost no teams that are under the cap that would be willing to waste cap dollars next season to sign Ariza or Odom.  Virtually the only way either guy leaves is for the MLE.

we'll see.
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