Hollinger: LA Lakers #1 Basketball Franchise ever, Bos #2.

[crownsy]

  I didn't read the whole thing, but did he subtract the relocation penalty from the Lakers?

yes, but he mysteriously says that their "intangibles" score is exactly the total of the penalty higher than ours to offset that point for point.

Somehow we scored the lowest he allowed on the intangibles score, and the lakers got a perfect score.

I guess having a rabid fan base, a ton of legendary players, and a decades long tradition of Celtics pride does not offset celebrity row, in fact, its not even worth more than the bare minimum for the category.

Im not saying the lakers don't deserve a high score on intangibles, but to score us at the low end, getting the same scores as teams like the bobcats? are you serious john?

[CelticsWhat35]

I'm sorry but the Lakers are the most successful franchise in NBA history.  I know that isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on the site, but it is reality.  The Lakers have played for the championship in 50% of the seasons in league history.  They have never had an extended down period.  And it isn't like they aren't second in titles or that far back.

Should Yale be considered the greatest college football team ever because they have the most titles?  How about Princton they are #2 on that list?

The C's have played in 20 though and only lost 3. There isn't a "right" answer to this sort of question. Just a great conversation between fans.

Actually, there is a right answer.  I learned it in elementary school. 

17>9
17>14

I think Hollinger's mind works like that of a grade school child ironically.

Haha, good point.  I guess he was out sick the day they learned greater than/less than symbols.

[Donoghus]

Hollinger has a chat at 3pm EST today if anyone feels like harassing him.

Just sayin'....

[johnnyrondo]

First of all Boston is #1

Second of all the only reason the Lakers are even a close second is because of Len Bias and Chris Wallace.  With Bias we'd be in the 20's in titles and the Lakers would be at 12. Wallace not only sucked for us, but is the main reason the Lakers are in the Finals this yr and last yr.

[RAcker]

First of all Boston is #1

Second of all the only reason the Lakers are even a close second is because of Len Bias and Chris Wallace.  With Bias we'd be in the 20's in titles and the Lakers would be at 12. Wallace not only sucked for us, but is the main reason the Lakers are in the Finals this yr and last yr.

You are obviously the President of the Chris Wallace fan club.   

[Drucci]

Are you surprised by this ranking? I'm not. Hollinger's articles are a joke, he is always wrong with his predictions and his rankings have no sense at all because they are always based on  numbers/stats which don't take the reality in count. For example, his all-time team ranking should give much more importance to the number of championships won or to the teams sucess in the Finals... because 14 championships in 29 attempts isn't such a good number.

[angryguy77]

I'm sorry but the Lakers are the most successful franchise in NBA history.  I know that isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on the site, but it is reality.  The Lakers have played for the championship in 50% of the seasons in league history.  They have never had an extended down period.  And it isn't like they aren't second in titles or that far back.

Should Yale be considered the greatest college football team ever because they have the most titles?  How about Princton they are #2 on that list?

And the Buffalo Bills played in few SB during th 90's. Are they just as good as the Cowboys, or are they the beaten stepchild? I think we know the answer to that.

[BballTim]

I'm sorry but the Lakers are the most successful franchise in NBA history.  I know that isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on the site, but it is reality.  The Lakers have played for the championship in 50% of the seasons in league history.  They have never had an extended down period.  And it isn't like they aren't second in titles or that far back.

Should Yale be considered the greatest college football team ever because they have the most titles?  How about Princton they are #2 on that list?

How is that a reality. It is completely and utterly subjective. If you only count playoff series won, not playoff wins, or just playoff wins, and not playoff series won, the Celtics take it.

  He doesn't count playoff losses because "nobody cares if they won 4-0 or 4-3". By that logic he should ignore playoff wins and only count series wins. If you lose the series, you lose the series.

[Fafnir]

I'm sorry but the Lakers are the most successful franchise in NBA history.  I know that isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on the site, but it is reality.  The Lakers have played for the championship in 50% of the seasons in league history.  They have never had an extended down period.  And it isn't like they aren't second in titles or that far back.

Should Yale be considered the greatest college football team ever because they have the most titles?  How about Princton they are #2 on that list?

How is that a reality. It is completely and utterly subjective. If you only count playoff series won, not playoff wins, or just playoff wins, and not playoff series won, the Celtics take it.

  He doesn't count playoff losses because "nobody cares if they won 4-0 or 4-3". By that logic he should ignore playoff wins and only count series wins. If you lose the series, you lose the series.

Right on about that. Plus why would a 5 game series win be worth less points than a 7 game series playoff win? He doesn't raise the value each round you go in does he?

[RAcker]

I'm sorry but the Lakers are the most successful franchise in NBA history.  I know that isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on the site, but it is reality.  The Lakers have played for the championship in 50% of the seasons in league history.  They have never had an extended down period.  And it isn't like they aren't second in titles or that far back.

Should Yale be considered the greatest college football team ever because they have the most titles?  How about Princton they are #2 on that list?

How is that a reality. It is completely and utterly subjective. If you only count playoff series won, not playoff wins, or just playoff wins, and not playoff series won, the Celtics take it.

  He doesn't count playoff losses because "nobody cares if they won 4-0 or 4-3". By that logic he should ignore playoff wins and only count series wins. If you lose the series, you lose the series.

Right on about that. Plus why would a 5 game series win be worth less points than a 7 game series playoff win? He doesn't raise the value each round you go in does he?

Yet this schmuck would be the first one to point out that it took us more games than ever before in history in the playoffs to get #17. 

He needs his sack punched.

[Fafnir]

I'm sorry but the Lakers are the most successful franchise in NBA history.  I know that isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on the site, but it is reality.  The Lakers have played for the championship in 50% of the seasons in league history.  They have never had an extended down period.  And it isn't like they aren't second in titles or that far back.

Should Yale be considered the greatest college football team ever because they have the most titles?  How about Princton they are #2 on that list?

How is that a reality. It is completely and utterly subjective. If you only count playoff series won, not playoff wins, or just playoff wins, and not playoff series won, the Celtics take it.

  He doesn't count playoff losses because "nobody cares if they won 4-0 or 4-3". By that logic he should ignore playoff wins and only count series wins. If you lose the series, you lose the series.

Right on about that. Plus why would a 5 game series win be worth less points than a 7 game series playoff win? He doesn't raise the value each round you go in does he?

Yet this schmuck would be the first one to point out that it took us more games than ever before in history in the playoffs to get #17. 

He needs his sack punched.

You're assuming he has one to punch. Common mistake, people make it all the time with him and Lamar Odom.

[LarBrd33]

Hollinger just writes whatever nonsense he can to get lots of hits.  He and Jemima Hill are all about making up wonky articles to incite feverish responses.   When things slow down they just say Kobe is better than Jordan,  Russell is the 10th best center of all time, Dirk is better than Bird, Andrew Bynum is better than Hakeem... the Lakers are better than the Celtics... etc.

It's all about creating hits for their dumb articles.  Right now the Lakers are about to win a title (because you guys rooted against King James) so obviously it makes sense for him to print an article about how amazing the Lakers are.

[RAcker]

I'm sorry but the Lakers are the most successful franchise in NBA history.  I know that isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on the site, but it is reality.  The Lakers have played for the championship in 50% of the seasons in league history.  They have never had an extended down period.  And it isn't like they aren't second in titles or that far back.

Should Yale be considered the greatest college football team ever because they have the most titles?  How about Princton they are #2 on that list?

How is that a reality. It is completely and utterly subjective. If you only count playoff series won, not playoff wins, or just playoff wins, and not playoff series won, the Celtics take it.

  He doesn't count playoff losses because "nobody cares if they won 4-0 or 4-3". By that logic he should ignore playoff wins and only count series wins. If you lose the series, you lose the series.

Right on about that. Plus why would a 5 game series win be worth less points than a 7 game series playoff win? He doesn't raise the value each round you go in does he?

Yet this schmuck would be the first one to point out that it took us more games than ever before in history in the playoffs to get #17. 

He needs his sack punched.

You're assuming he has one to punch. Common mistake, people make it all the time with him and Lamar Odom.

Don't forget "Sackless Varejeo".

[Moranis]

I'm sorry but the Lakers are the most successful franchise in NBA history.  I know that isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on the site, but it is reality.  The Lakers have played for the championship in 50% of the seasons in league history.  They have never had an extended down period.  And it isn't like they aren't second in titles or that far back.

Should Yale be considered the greatest college football team ever because they have the most titles?  How about Princton they are #2 on that list?

How is that a reality. It is completely and utterly subjective. If you only count playoff series won, not playoff wins, or just playoff wins, and not playoff series won, the Celtics take it.

  He doesn't count playoff losses because "nobody cares if they won 4-0 or 4-3". By that logic he should ignore playoff wins and only count series wins. If you lose the series, you lose the series.

The Lakers have won more playoff series than the Celtics.

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

I'm sorry but the Lakers are the most successful franchise in NBA history.  I know that isn't going to be a popular viewpoint on the site, but it is reality.  The Lakers have played for the championship in 50% of the seasons in league history.  They have never had an extended down period.  And it isn't like they aren't second in titles or that far back.

Should Yale be considered the greatest college football team ever because they have the most titles?  How about Princton they are #2 on that list?

Okay, so the Lakers are the most successful franchise in history.

Unless they are playing the Celtics.

Or you look at the number of times they were the most successful team in a particular season.

Not making sense to me.

Celtics are 151-119 against the Lakers all time.

Celtics are 9-2 against the Lakers in the Finals.

The Celtics have 31 HOFs associated with the organization. The Lakers come in with just over half of that, at 16 (You're welcome LA for including Chick Hearn and not even including Curt Gowdy, Bob Ryan, and Johnny Most with the Cs... I don't hate the Lakers, I pity the fools)

Hollinger is a dumbass. Also, for a guy that has built a career on stat calculations and "objectivity," way to include a b---s--- "Intangibles" section that just happens to swing to LA. Way to quantify and support results, moron. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Chinatown and A Few Good Men as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.