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Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2009, 10:34:32 AM »

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Honestly, I wouldn't want to be the new Boston LeBrons.
Copy that.

And how do you fit Pierce, Garnett, James and Rondo into the same starting lineup. We'd be big and we'd be great defensibly, but what about offensibly?
Who would take the last shot?
Who would run the point?
During the previous season (2008-2009) Rajon and Paul both took care of creating. Now a third guy to ballhogg?
You have to have certain roles in every team and I just don't like the idea of two point-forwards and a point guard on a same team. That just wouldn' work.

Wow.  Anyone that would NOT want to see LeBron on the Celtics is clearly drunk on spiked green kool-aid.  How about we ask Doc how he could juggle a starting lineup of Perk, KG, LBJ, Rondo and whoever.  Seriously, let's not be crazy here.  LeBron on this team would win 75+ games and cruise to the title (barring injuries).

Any Celtic fan that would NOT want LeBron here is just simply a hater.

Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2009, 10:37:24 AM »

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but Bron would be able to make more in NY with all the endorsements

Ive seen this line of thinking before, and again i question it.

Yes, NYC is the media capital of the world, but does anyone think that any company willing to pony up the kind of cash lebron demands as a global icon at this point is going to go

"man, we have this great ad campaign were willing to pay lebron his ridiculous asking price to do, but he's a 4 hour plane flight away, there goes that idea..."

The man is a global figure now, i don't think his current place of address really matters one iota to marketing departments with enough clout to get a word in edge wise with his agents.
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Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2009, 10:44:49 AM »

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but Bron would be able to make more in NY with all the endorsements

Ive seen this line of thinking before, and again i question it.

Yes, NYC is the media capital of the world, but does anyone think that any company willing to pony up the kind of cash lebron demands as a global icon at this point is going to go

"man, we have this great ad campaign were willing to pay lebron his ridiculous asking price to do, but he's a 4 hour plane flight away, there goes that idea..."

The man is a global figure now, i don't think his current place of address really matters one iota to marketing departments with enough clout to get a word in edge wise with his agents.
I agree with this post.  But in reality, the only way LeBron can become an even more polarizing, global figure is to win MULTIPLE championships.  Look at perhaps the 4 biggest marketed players of all time: MJ, Bird, Magic, Shaq.  All were big, but got even bigger (and continue to stay huge today) because of the amount of winning they did.  And I'm not talking regular season winning.  I mean several championships.

Some guys can win a lot (Tim Duncan) but just aren't that marketable.  I'm talking about the guys that were hyped up big early in their careers (the aforementioned big 4).  Once they began making the finals and winning titles, I think that's what took them to the next level.

If LeBron wants to get to (and perhaps surpass) this level, he's well aware he'll need to win.  The point is, he's going to go where he feels he'll have the best chance at multiple championships.

Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2009, 11:10:09 AM »

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I don't buy the "more endorsement money in NY" lines.  Lebron is already a national celebrity.  He isn't gonna be hawking local NY products.  He's got his Nike contract, he's a Vitamin Water guy too.  He's got his endorsement deals in place.  NY might take him to a new stratosphere only if he can win championships there.  If he brought a championship to the Knicks, he'd be all time famous.

About the C's going for Lebron, not nearly enough money in our pockets.  He's gonna be looking at 25-27 mil per year even in this economy.

Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2009, 11:11:49 AM »

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What if Chris Wallace took over as GM of the Cav's and we traded Ray Allen, a number 1 and some filler bodies for Lebron.

Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2009, 11:16:47 AM »

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I don't buy the "more endorsement money in NY" lines.  Lebron is already a national celebrity.  He isn't gonna be hawking local NY products.  He's got his Nike contract, he's a Vitamin Water guy too.  He's got his endorsement deals in place.  NY might take him to a new stratosphere only if he can win championships there.  If he brought a championship to the Knicks, he'd be all time famous.

About the C's going for Lebron, not nearly enough money in our pockets.  He's gonna be looking at 25-27 mil per year even in this economy.
Lebron can't sign a contract for that much there is this thing called the individual player salary cap.
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Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2009, 11:26:13 AM »

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I don't buy the "more endorsement money in NY" lines.  Lebron is already a national celebrity.  He isn't gonna be hawking local NY products.  He's got his Nike contract, he's a Vitamin Water guy too.  He's got his endorsement deals in place.  NY might take him to a new stratosphere only if he can win championships there.  If he brought a championship to the Knicks, he'd be all time famous.

About the C's going for Lebron, not nearly enough money in our pockets.  He's gonna be looking at 25-27 mil per year even in this economy.
Lebron can't sign a contract for that much there is this thing called the individual player salary cap.

Yea, sorry I meant 21-23 in terms of over the course of the contract.  The first year will have to be lower.

Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2009, 11:33:43 AM »

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I don't buy the "more endorsement money in NY" lines.  Lebron is already a national celebrity.  He isn't gonna be hawking local NY products.  He's got his Nike contract, he's a Vitamin Water guy too.  He's got his endorsement deals in place.  NY might take him to a new stratosphere only if he can win championships there.  If he brought a championship to the Knicks, he'd be all time famous.

About the C's going for Lebron, not nearly enough money in our pockets.  He's gonna be looking at 25-27 mil per year even in this economy.
Lebron can't sign a contract for that much there is this thing called the individual player salary cap.

Yeah, poor Lebron is going to be confined to a 6 year, roughly $130 million contract if he reaches free agency and re-ups with the Cavs.  (That's $21.67 million per season)

If he signs with another team, he'll be limited to only 5 years, approximately $105 million.  ($21 million per season)

(This presumes a starting salary of $18 million.  Depending upon what league revenues do, he may actually be able to make more than that.)

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Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2009, 11:59:55 AM »

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but Bron would be able to make more in NY with all the endorsements

Ive seen this line of thinking before, and again i question it.

Yes, NYC is the media capital of the world, but does anyone think that any company willing to pony up the kind of cash lebron demands as a global icon at this point is going to go

"man, we have this great ad campaign were willing to pay lebron his ridiculous asking price to do, but he's a 4 hour plane flight away, there goes that idea..."

The man is a global figure now, i don't think his current place of address really matters one iota to marketing departments with enough clout to get a word in edge wise with his agents.

No question he's got plenty of endorsement as is. He'll just have more access and more offers in NY. Does he need anymore? No way. With his endorsements now and a new contract from Cleveland he'll have more money than he'll know what to do with it. He really doesn't need any more money or publicity, going to NY would just be selfish. He's already the face of the NBA.

Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2009, 12:18:00 PM »

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Yeah, poor Lebron is going to be confined to a 6 year, roughly $130 million contract if he reaches free agency and re-ups with the Cavs.  (That's $21.67 million per season)

If he signs with another team, he'll be limited to only 5 years, approximately $105 million.  ($21 million per season)

(This presumes a starting salary of $18 million.  Depending upon what league revenues do, he may actually be able to make more than that.)


Now i am a pretty big fan of the show house hunters on HGTV.  I feel like maybe lebron should consider cost of living.  NYC is gonna be far more expensive whereas he can get so much more for his money living in cleveland in addition to as Roy said, getting more money. 
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Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2009, 12:23:36 PM »

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but Bron would be able to make more in NY with all the endorsements

Ive seen this line of thinking before, and again i question it.

Yes, NYC is the media capital of the world, but does anyone think that any company willing to pony up the kind of cash lebron demands as a global icon at this point is going to go

"man, we have this great ad campaign were willing to pay lebron his ridiculous asking price to do, but he's a 4 hour plane flight away, there goes that idea..."

The man is a global figure now, i don't think his current place of address really matters one iota to marketing departments with enough clout to get a word in edge wise with his agents.

No question he's got plenty of endorsement as is. He'll just have more access and more offers in NY. Does he need anymore? No way. With his endorsements now and a new contract from Cleveland he'll have more money than he'll know what to do with it. He really doesn't need any more money or publicity, going to NY would just be selfish. He's already the face of the NBA.
Someone of Lebron's stature will not have more legitimate endorsement opportunities in New York.  Sure some local electronics chain will pay him more than the local electronics chain in cleveland, but Lebron is not that type of endorser.  Nike, Vitamin Water, etc. he already endorses and it makes no difference where he lives.

When he first started out it might have mattered, but not now.
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Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2009, 12:31:12 PM »

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Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2009, 12:39:01 PM »

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Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2009, 12:46:13 PM »

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NY would be the only place I could see Bron leaving Cleveland for.

I hope you're right.  If he went to L.A. I might have to quit watching basketball.  Unless it was to the Clippers to play with Griffin.

Re: Why not the Celts for Lebron?
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2009, 12:50:48 PM »

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but Bron would be able to make more in NY with all the endorsements

Ive seen this line of thinking before, and again i question it.

Yes, NYC is the media capital of the world, but does anyone think that any company willing to pony up the kind of cash lebron demands as a global icon at this point is going to go

"man, we have this great ad campaign were willing to pay lebron his ridiculous asking price to do, but he's a 4 hour plane flight away, there goes that idea..."

The man is a global figure now, i don't think his current place of address really matters one iota to marketing departments with enough clout to get a word in edge wise with his agents.

No question he's got plenty of endorsement as is. He'll just have more access and more offers in NY. Does he need anymore? No way. With his endorsements now and a new contract from Cleveland he'll have more money than he'll know what to do with it. He really doesn't need any more money or publicity, going to NY would just be selfish. He's already the face of the NBA.

Like what offers that are NYC specific?

What companies in NYC that are willing to pay the kind of change it takes to get lebron are but are unwilling to fly him in for the afternoon from Cleveland for a photo/video shoot?

(he's not going to do ads for ma and pa topper in the west end, you need to be a major company to get lebron at this point, with major capital)

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