Chris Wallace

[Fafnir]

He's definitely the Matt Millen of the NBA (or maybe it is the other way around). When that deal went down, it was very suspect. Granted, it doesn't look quite as bad right now because M. Gasol has turned out 'okay', but he is nowhere near his brother-and if we all remember, he was not a prospect anyone really wanted a part of. People laughed when it was suggested we should take him in the 2nd round the year he was drafted. Had we only known that's all it would take to get Pau...

No sour grapes, as we got a championship, but geez, you are right, it is like Wallace has it out for us...

It was a salary dump pure and simple. I don't blame Wallace for that deal I blame the owner. If the Celtics hadn't pulled off the Garnett trade we could have been able to use Theo Ratliff's contract to get Gasol in a similar deal.

[tb727]

The Celtics never had a shot at a high pick in the "03" Draft. The Nuggets started "blowing it up" after the Celtics exercised that pick. That "01" Nuggets team went 40-42 and had Antonio McDyess (pre-injury), a young Raef LaFrentz, James Posey and Nick Van Exel as its core. They were a team a tweak or two away from the playoffs that went the opposite direction for the Lebron James Sweepstakes.

If the C's held off the Nuggets would have been a playoff cusp team = no Carmelo, Bosh or Wade.

I'm confused- so the reason you're saying the Nuggets blew it up was because the Celtics opted to take that pick instead of waiting?

[JSD]

The Celtics never had a shot at a high pick in the "03" Draft. The Nuggets started "blowing it up" after the Celtics exercised that pick. That "01" Nuggets team went 40-42 and had Antonio McDyess (pre-injury), a young Raef LaFrentz, James Posey and Nick Van Exel as its core. They were a team a tweak or two away from the playoffs that went the opposite direction for the Lebron James Sweepstakes.

If the C's held off the Nuggets would have been a playoff cusp team = no Carmelo, Bosh or Wade.

I'm confused- so the reason you're saying the Nuggets blew it up was because the Celtics opted to take that pick instead of waiting?

Not exactly, Wallace exercised the option at a time when the Nuggets were a cusp playoff team yet to peak. How was he suppose to know the Nuggets were going to blow it up? He saw an improving young roster and elected to take the pick thinking "this isn't getting any higher, this Nuggets team is improving"  Why would the Nuggets have blown it up if they were going to lose that lottery pick yo the Celtics? They wouldn't have...

[tb727]

The Celtics never had a shot at a high pick in the "03" Draft. The Nuggets started "blowing it up" after the Celtics exercised that pick. That "01" Nuggets team went 40-42 and had Antonio McDyess (pre-injury), a young Raef LaFrentz, James Posey and Nick Van Exel as its core. They were a team a tweak or two away from the playoffs that went the opposite direction for the Lebron James Sweepstakes.

If the C's held off the Nuggets would have been a playoff cusp team = no Carmelo, Bosh or Wade.

I'm confused- so the reason you're saying the Nuggets blew it up was because the Celtics opted to take that pick instead of waiting?

Not exactly, Wallace exercised the option at a time when the Nuggets were a cusp playoff team yet to peak. How was he suppose to know the Nuggets were going to blow it up? He saw an improving young roster and elected to take the pick thinking "this isn't getting any higher, this Nuggets team is improving"  Why would the Nuggets have blown it up if they were going to lose that lottery pick yo the Celtics? They wouldn't have...

Hmmm ok that makes sense then from Wallace's perspective I suppose.  And no I didn't think they'd blow it up just because of the Celts taking that pick, I just didn't understand your last post.  Got it now, thx.

[JSD]

The Celtics never had a shot at a high pick in the "03" Draft. The Nuggets started "blowing it up" after the Celtics exercised that pick. That "01" Nuggets team went 40-42 and had Antonio McDyess (pre-injury), a young Raef LaFrentz, James Posey and Nick Van Exel as its core. They were a team a tweak or two away from the playoffs that went the opposite direction for the Lebron James Sweepstakes.

If the C's held off the Nuggets would have been a playoff cusp team = no Carmelo, Bosh or Wade.

I'm confused- so the reason you're saying the Nuggets blew it up was because the Celtics opted to take that pick instead of waiting?

Not exactly, Wallace exercised the option at a time when the Nuggets were a cusp playoff team yet to peak. How was he suppose to know the Nuggets were going to blow it up? He saw an improving young roster and elected to take the pick thinking "this isn't getting any higher, this Nuggets team is improving"  Why would the Nuggets have blown it up if they were going to lose that lottery pick yo the Celtics? They wouldn't have...

Hmmm ok that makes sense then from Wallace's perspective I suppose.  And no I didn't think they'd blow it up just because of the Celts taking that pick, I just didn't understand your last post.  Got it now, thx.

I apologize, I can see how the end there came off a little jerky. I didn't mean to sound like that I was trying to emphasize the point. 

[jambr380]

He's definitely the Matt Millen of the NBA (or maybe it is the other way around). When that deal went down, it was very suspect. Granted, it doesn't look quite as bad right now because M. Gasol has turned out 'okay', but he is nowhere near his brother-and if we all remember, he was not a prospect anyone really wanted a part of. People laughed when it was suggested we should take him in the 2nd round the year he was drafted. Had we only known that's all it would take to get Pau...

No sour grapes, as we got a championship, but geez, you are right, it is like Wallace has it out for us...

It was a salary dump pure and simple. I don't blame Wallace for that deal I blame the owner. If the Celtics hadn't pulled off the Garnett trade we could have been able to use Theo Ratliff's contract to get Gasol in a similar deal.

I understand how a salary dump works, but you don't dump a young all-star big man, you trade him for very good young assets. It is honestly about the worst trade I have ever heard of in the NBA because of what it did to the Grizzlies and what it did for the Lakers. Everyone knew what would happen, but we couldn't stop it. For someone that hates the Lakers, it was seriously disasterous.

This guy drove the Celtics into the ground and is doing the same with the Grizzlies. It's almost as if he were hired to destroy the franchise- why is there a team in Memphis anyway?

[cornbreadsmart]

i think the suspicious part was that   they didn't bother to contact OTHER teams for maybe a similar salary dump and maybe better assets. they were'nt interested in even seeking a better deal from anyone else.was'nt that the buzz?

[RMO]

i think the suspicious part was that   they didn't bother to contact OTHER teams for maybe a similar salary dump and maybe better assets. they were'nt interested in even seeking a better deal from anyone else.was'nt that the buzz?

Not to mention it was at least a week (maybe two) before the deadline.  I remember seeing the headline and couldn't believe that they still had Odom when I read the fine print.  That was their most valuable trading chip and didn't even need to use it.

[tb727]

I understand how a salary dump works, but you don't dump a young all-star big man, you trade him for very good young assets. It is honestly about the worst trade I have ever heard of in the NBA because of what it did to the Grizzlies and what it did for the Lakers. Everyone knew what would happen, but we couldn't stop it. For someone that hates the Lakers, it was seriously disasterous.

This guy drove the Celtics into the ground and is doing the same with the Grizzlies. It's almost as if he were hired to destroy the franchise- why is there a team in Memphis anyway?

Eloquent and perfectly-stated.  TP for that, I felt like I was talking to myself!

[tb727]

The Celtics never had a shot at a high pick in the "03" Draft. The Nuggets started "blowing it up" after the Celtics exercised that pick. That "01" Nuggets team went 40-42 and had Antonio McDyess (pre-injury), a young Raef LaFrentz, James Posey and Nick Van Exel as its core. They were a team a tweak or two away from the playoffs that went the opposite direction for the Lebron James Sweepstakes.

If the C's held off the Nuggets would have been a playoff cusp team = no Carmelo, Bosh or Wade.

I'm confused- so the reason you're saying the Nuggets blew it up was because the Celtics opted to take that pick instead of waiting?

Not exactly, Wallace exercised the option at a time when the Nuggets were a cusp playoff team yet to peak. How was he suppose to know the Nuggets were going to blow it up? He saw an improving young roster and elected to take the pick thinking "this isn't getting any higher, this Nuggets team is improving"  Why would the Nuggets have blown it up if they were going to lose that lottery pick yo the Celtics? They wouldn't have...

Hmmm ok that makes sense then from Wallace's perspective I suppose.  And no I didn't think they'd blow it up just because of the Celts taking that pick, I just didn't understand your last post.  Got it now, thx.

I apologize, I can see how the end there came off a little jerky. I didn't mean to sound like that I was trying to emphasize the point. 

Ha no problem it all.  It's amazing how unpredictable tone comes out of words.  If someone's having a bad day and reads something a certain way, they're suddenly p1ssed off.

I gave you a TP too- [dang] will I ever get 100 haha?

[BadNewsBarnes]

[dang] you Chris Wallace!  [dang] you to hell you Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again.!  Look what you did.

Seriously, the Lakers should put a statue of this bum in front of the Staples Center.
He made it all possible.

[ToppersBsktball10]

Can you refresh my memory on exactly what the trade was?  I do seem to remember that it was ridiculous...the Lakers get a All-Star big guy and the Grizzlies get...what exactly?  They still suck and the Lakers are clearly one of the best teams in the NBA.

It was Pau Gasol for Marc Gasol, Javaris Crittenton, Kwame Brown (expiring), Aaron McKie (expiring), and two #1s (2008 and 2010).  The 2008 #1 was used on Dontae Greene, who was then swapped for Darrel Arthur.

The trade worked out better than it looked like it was going to, because Marc Gasol is a legitimate prospect.  Still, it was a poor trade, with Memphis' ownership later saying he that they should have talked to more teams to gauge trade value.

Crittenton and Brown are gone I think McKie's gone Darrell Arthur is a pothead (i've heard) and won't be much. and Marc Gasol's okay

[RebusRankin]

Basically Memphis got an expiring contract in form of total bust (Kwame Brown), an expiring contract in the form of a guy who was retired essentially (Aaron Mckie), A prosect who's turned out better than expected (Gasol) and a prospect who's failing miserable right now (crittenden). Oh and a couple of late picks. For an all-star big man who was 27. Terrible trade.

 

[QuinielaBox]

Is this the same Chris Wallace who masterminded the Vin Baker for Joe Forte deal to cover up his draft blunder by leaving Tony Parker on the draft board?

Well, Quin from Kansas, we don't use a PG in our system and we traded Forte for financial reasons.

What a Goober!

[bopna]

Well, I believe CW is a Faker fan in real life, when he ran the Celtics, we were never significant and almost all our draft picks under him was a bust except for PP who FELL to the celtics lap. JJohnson was also a good one which Wallace dumped to Phx.And he had all credit in the Vin Baker fiasco which DA had tried to fix. IN hindsight, he was being paid to run this team to the ground..When DA took over and I do know Chris was still around, DA was technically still influenced a bit by Wallace, hence his initial decisions as GM was bad which was probably had Wallace in his ear.....Since his departure, DA has turned things around where we won banner 17.