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About replacing Marbury....
« on: May 28, 2009, 08:05:45 PM »

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  Im curious why some of you think that we should pass on resigning Marbury. I feel like he is much better than any other backup PG available. His passing ability is still there. Hes a much better defender than given credit for( Defensively he was much better than E.House), and his shot is going to come back with time. He only had a month with the team before the playoffs, and had not played in a regular season NBA game in over a year. Of course hes going to have rust.

Im really curious to know who would be a better fit?
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Re: About replacing Marbury....
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2009, 08:30:12 PM »

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I think we were lucky his attitude didn't show.  As far as playing, I think Pruitt is better.  I was impressed with the level of EFFORT Marbury put into defense but he honestly was not that good.  IMO as a defender he's behind pruitt (who's good) and eddie who works his butt off.  He can handle the ball way better than eddie and has the experience over pruitt but what did he have 1 good game in playoffs? a few during the season
he was an upgrade from sam yes
pass on him since he thinks he's a starter

Re: About replacing Marbury....
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 08:35:09 PM »

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One better option:  Anthony Carter, who I believe earned a minimum salary this season.

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 08:51:01 PM »

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I wanted us to go after Carter last year.
Go Celtics.

Re: About replacing Marbury....
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2009, 09:24:15 PM »

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I think we were lucky his attitude didn't show.  As far as playing, I think Pruitt is better.  I was impressed with the level of EFFORT Marbury put into defense but he honestly was not that good.  IMO as a defender he's behind pruitt (who's good) and eddie who works his butt off.  He can handle the ball way better than eddie and has the experience over pruitt but what did he have 1 good game in playoffs? a few during the season
he was an upgrade from sam yes
pass on him since he thinks he's a starter

If pruitt is better why did he not get any minutes in the playoffs? Hes been with the team for 3 years and could not crack the roataion. Apparently Doc does not think Pruitt is better since Marbury was getting the minutes in the postseason. There were several times during the playoffs when House was taken out of the game because he was getting torched by legit 2 guards.Marbury replaced him and did a better job defending them.
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Re: About replacing Marbury....
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2009, 09:28:40 PM »

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One better option:  Anthony Carter, who I believe earned a minimum salary this season.

I would not really call him an option. I can not see a circumastance in which he would choose to leave Orlando to come to Boston.
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Re: About replacing Marbury....
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2009, 09:30:56 PM »

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I think Marbury ran the team better than House did.  I also think he defended better than Eddie.  That said, I don't think PG is the issue it was two years ago or even what it was at the beginning of last season.  Rondo has clearly proven that he's worthy of playing 35-40 mpg and with his youth, athleticism, and stamina, he can do it.  Thus, all the talk about a veteran backup isn't as important as it used to be.  

So while I'd take Marbury (or Anthony Carter) over House at the point, I'm much more concerned about getting more size up front and a real replacement for Posey.  If we can do those two things and bring Marbury back, I'm all for it.  But I'd take care of SF and C spots before I'd worry about Marbury.  

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 09:31:46 PM »

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One better option:  Anthony Carter, who I believe earned a minimum salary this season.

He really is the only other guy I would be very interested in.  I suppose they could go after someone like Tyronn Lue, Bobby Jackson, or Brevin Knight...but I don't think any of them are even close to Marbury.

The more I think about it, the more I think Danny will try hard to buy a pick to grab one of the PG's in the draft.

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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009, 09:38:36 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2009, 09:57:17 PM »

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He is not a point guard. Hes a shooting guard in a Point guards body. Do not let him keep fooling you into thinking that he can dribble and pass well. He shoots 3's end of story. ;)
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2009, 10:49:11 PM »

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One better option:  Anthony Carter, who I believe earned a minimum salary this season.

I'm pretty sure he only took that because he REALLY wanted to play for Denver. With the success they have had this year, hard to see him not going back there. I think he could've gotten some better offers elsewhere, he had a decent season the year before. Injuries a concern with him though, so who knows.

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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2009, 04:07:53 AM »

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It takes a lot of dislike for Marbury to claim Anthony Carter is better than him ****.

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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2009, 07:00:33 AM »

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I think we were lucky his attitude didn't show.  As far as playing, I think Pruitt is better.  I was impressed with the level of EFFORT Marbury put into defense but he honestly was not that good.  IMO as a defender he's behind pruitt (who's good) and eddie who works his butt off.  He can handle the ball way better than eddie and has the experience over pruitt but what did he have 1 good game in playoffs? a few during the season
he was an upgrade from sam yes
pass on him since he thinks he's a starter

If pruitt is better why did he not get any minutes in the playoffs? Hes been with the team for 3 years and could not crack the roataion. Apparently Doc does not think Pruitt is better since Marbury was getting the minutes in the postseason. There were several times during the playoffs when House was taken out of the game because he was getting torched by legit 2 guards.Marbury replaced him and did a better job defending them.
can't go by playing time with doc, easily the 2nd best defending pg we have is pruitt, easily, when he was getting pt before marbury he looked good
do you think pruitt played better over the course of a season?
remember when doc sat eddie last year to give sam pt.. :-\
in limited minutes i feel walker looked better than allen but doc didn't give him any burn either

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2009, 08:25:08 AM »

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It takes a lot of dislike for Marbury to claim Anthony Carter is better than him ****.

Carter has been an incredibly consistent PG over the last two years.  He isn't great at any one thing, but he does everything well. 

Marbury on the other hand was very inconsistent in the time he was here.  Personally, I think he will be much better with a full season with a team, but based on the evidence of their performances this past year, Carter is the better backup PG right now.

Re: About replacing Marbury....
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2009, 08:45:56 AM »

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It takes a lot of dislike for Marbury to claim Anthony Carter is better than him ****.

Carter has been an incredibly consistent PG over the last two years.  He isn't great at any one thing, but he does everything well. 

Marbury on the other hand was very inconsistent in the time he was here.  Personally, I think he will be much better with a full season with a team, but based on the evidence of their performances this past year, Carter is the better backup PG right now.

Exactly.  Statistically, Starbury was one of the very worst players in the entire NBA last season, whereas Carter has been very solid recently.

Which player would you rather have (per 36 minutes)?

Player A: 8.3 pts, 7.3 ast, 43.3% FG%, 1.9 stl, 3.1 to

Player B: 7.7 pts, 6.5 ast, 34.2% FG%, 0.9 stl, 3.2 to

I'll go with Player A, even without considering Player B's history of disruptive behavior, both with coaches and teammates.

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