Who is Wyc talking about? (From Real GM via Celtic's Now)

[Fafnir]

I think he's talking about Dice.

Dice doesn't help our length problem though. He'd just end up being a cheap BBD replacement.

McDyess is a much better rebounder than BBD. He also is a legit 6' 9".

I have to agree with, Marqui, Dice doesn't solve our height/length problem. At 6'9 McDyess is still an undersized PF. Not to mention, Sheed is more in line with Danny's go for the homer mentality. Remember if it were up to him we would've had Reggie instead of Posey. Sheed with his height, 3pt shooting ability, all-star credential, and championship experience fills a boatload of needs we're trying to fill.

McDyess isn't nearly as undersized as Baby or Leon and can do most everything we had Baby do except guard big centers. Meanwhile he can actually rebound his position. Sure I'd like to have another 7 footer but McDyess is a true PF and does fine against taller PFs.

[winsomme]

I think he's talking about Dice.

Dice doesn't help our length problem though. He'd just end up being a cheap BBD replacement.

McDyess is a much better rebounder than BBD. He also is a legit 6' 9".

I have to agree with, Marqui, Dice doesn't solve our height/length problem. At 6'9 McDyess is still an undersized PF. Not to mention, Sheed is more in line with Danny's go for the homer mentality. Remember if it were up to him we would've had Reggie instead of Posey. Sheed with his height, 3pt shooting ability, all-star credential, and championship experience fills a boatload of needs we're trying to fill.

McDyess isn't nearly as undersized as Baby or Leon and can do most everything we had Baby do except guard big centers. Meanwhile he can actually rebound his position. Sure I'd like to have another 7 footer but McDyess is a true PF and does fine against taller PFs.

Dice also still has some athleticism left and good reach, but yeah I would prefer to add some length because that was missing last year off bench.

I am in a bit of a quandary as to FA beginning.

I have liked watching ORL and DEN giving CLE and LAL fits, but after last nights game it looks like DEN might be a year too early to have the composure to really pull off a series win, and the Bron train may have officially left the station after that game 2 shot.

so, if it is in fact going to be a Bron-Kobe Final, I just want the season over so we can get on with FA. but if DEN and ORL really can show the mental toughness to bounce back, I would love to see at least one of Bron and Kobe knocked out of the playoffs and would be willing to put FA aside to watch that take place...

anyway, hoping ORL shows something tonight....

[wiley]

Can't we sign McDyess and a player of greater length.  Considering health issues we'd better stock up.

[Fafnir]

Can't we sign McDyess and a player of greater length.  Considering health issues we'd better stock up.

Mikki Moore is longer than McDyess, we could always bring him back.....

Really length at the PF/C position was mainly a problem because KG was hurt and because it affected our rebounding. Quality is more important than being listed at 7 feet.

[cordobes]

I agree with Fanfir. Robert Swift, POB and Mikki Moore are legit 7ft but I want no piece of them. And, to be honest, I never thought of Dice as someone with a size problem at the PF position. Of course, if we indeed sign McDyess, it'd be nice to have a bigger body as the 4th big, but that's another problem.

[CoachBo]

just glad they sound like they are going to be agressive

Talk is cheaper than signing Paddy O'Blount. I think I'll wait for some proof before I celebrate management's agressiveness.

Don't want to be shocked when Robert Swift comes walking through that door ...

[Fafnir]

I agree with Fanfir. Robert Swift, POB and Mikki Moore are legit 7ft but I want no piece of them. And, to be honest, I never thought of Dice as someone with a size problem at the PF position. Of course, if we indeed sign McDyess, it'd be nice to have a bigger body as the 4th big, but that's another problem.

I think we could get by just fine with some combination of Powe/BBD/Vet minimum player through the regular season.

Then we could have a primary 3 big rotation of KG/Perk/Dyess in the playoffs. I want the best possible third big in terms of quality for the playoffs.

[wiley]

I agree with Fanfir. Robert Swift, POB and Mikki Moore are legit 7ft but I want no piece of them. And, to be honest, I never thought of Dice as someone with a size problem at the PF position. Of course, if we indeed sign McDyess, it'd be nice to have a bigger body as the 4th big, but that's another problem.

I think we could get by just fine with some combination of Powe/BBD/Vet minimum player through the regular season.

Then we could have a primary 3 big rotation of KG/Perk/Dyess in the playoffs. I want the best possible third big in terms of quality for the playoffs.

Me too.  I want McDyess no matter what.  But I don't see that means our extra 7 footer has to be a stiff or project.  How much does Ratliff cost these days?  Wouldn't someone along those lines be gettable at a reasonable cost.

[Brickowski]

As Rivers said, they have three holes: a bigman, a long defender at sf, and backup pg. I agree with him.

Any FA they sign must fill one of those holes. The nice thing aqbout Sheed is that if KG or Perkins sits down, they don't suddenly become undersized.  McDyess forces KG toplay center if Perkins sits.

McDyess really isn't that much of an upgrade over Davis.  The have similar skills.
I'd consider a guy like ZaZa or even Rasho becore I'd consider McDyess.

If they can't get a big man, the wing needs to be a priority.  Marion and Artest will not play for the MLE (I expecxt Artest to resign with Houston), but Anthony Parker is a decent alternative.

[winsomme]

I agree with Fanfir. Robert Swift, POB and Mikki Moore are legit 7ft but I want no piece of them. And, to be honest, I never thought of Dice as someone with a size problem at the PF position. Of course, if we indeed sign McDyess, it'd be nice to have a bigger body as the 4th big, but that's another problem.

I think we could get by just fine with some combination of Powe/BBD/Vet minimum player through the regular season.

Then we could have a primary 3 big rotation of KG/Perk/Dyess in the playoffs. I want the best possible third big in terms of quality for the playoffs.

I'm with you on quality. We need guys that you can rely on in the playoffs. not question marks.

so if it comes down to Dice vs some lesser player with more length, yes by all means go with Dice.

but if it's Dice vs Sheed, then I'm really liking the length of Sheed.

a playoff bigs rotation of Perk/KG/ Sheed and Baby or Powe is killer.

[Jon]

As Rivers said, they have three holes: a bigman, a long defender at sf, and backup pg. I agree with him.

The interesting thing about that is that if the C's do spring and get a high quality backup like Dice or Sheed, KG could potentially become that long 3 who backs up Pierce.  By no means am I suggesting KG is relegated to the bench; rather, I'm suggesting at times when Pierce is out of the game, the C's could at times go with a frontline of KG/Dice/Perk and let KG guard the likes of LeBron without having losing much down low. 

Could be an interesting option if the C's can't come up with a high quality 3 and 4/5. 

[cdif911]

Reggie Miller!

jk

[cordobes]

Garnett is too old to play the 3.

IMO, McDyess looked as good as ever last season. Sheed, on the other hand, looked pretty much finished as a top player. Him and Nesterovic can't defend the younger, mobile big men or the dribble penetration any more.

McDyess may be similar to Baby, but he's a much better rebounder and post player. Of course, we'd need someone else to defend the post. I think I know an excellent fit, but it's a long, long shot

[greenwise]

Raef Lafrentz??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySZSIXFam6M

[BballTim]

Garnett is too old to play the 3.

IMO, McDyess looked as good as ever last season. Sheed, on the other hand, looked pretty much finished as a top player. Him and Nesterovic can't defend the younger, mobile big men or the dribble penetration any more.

McDyess may be similar to Baby, but he's a much better rebounder and post player. Of course, we'd need someone else to defend the post. I think I know an excellent fit, but it's a long, long shot

  Just curious, but why would McDyess be a long shot?