Sheed or McDyess?

[BASS_THUMPER]

roll dem MCdice

hey sheed..."the ball dont lie"  only so many times

Mc dessy wit cheez pleases

[LooseCannon]

'Sheed ain't getting $8M.  No one's getting $8M this offseason other than MAYBE Ben Gordon and probably Carlos Boozer, if he opts out.  No one's got the money and no one wants to spend the money, not this summer.

If this is true, I hope there is someone who is willing to gamble that taking a one-year-deal for less money can be parlayed into a big contract in 2010, when everyone is stockpiling money.  Maybe when Rondo takes his Vegas family vacation, he should scout the craps table to see if any NBA veterans are in a gambling mood.  Perhaps the ideal person to look for is someone who was previously a starter, got demoted to the bench, and wants to prove himself as worthy of another starter-level contract.

I don't want James Posey back.  I want the next James Posey, someone who will play great for a year and help win a ring, then get fat and ruin some else's year the season after (preferably the Lakers).  You're probably going to have to offer a deal like Posey's:  one year, plus a player option for a second year, which he can exercise if he sucks or gets injured.

[Scalablob990]

I'd love Sheed because he's got more advantages then flaws. He's a solid and gritty defender that can contain most centers/forwards and he can spread the floor (but I have noticed with age his shot is getting a bit off....) highly doubt he settles for ANYTHING cheap that the celtics can throw at him. If they could pull it off, it'd be amazing. They would have to let Mikki and Marbury walk and attempt to convert Pruitt(pg) and Walker(sf) into full time subs, which I don't see happening...If only things were so easy......

[wdleehi]

Wallace is the way to go.


His entire career, he has sacrificed his own numbers for the good of winning.  He would fit right in.

[Fafnir]

Wallace is the way to go.


His entire career, he has sacrificed his own numbers for the good of winning.  He would fit right in.

Assuming he buys in to the Celtics. He clearly quit on Detroit this year. Not that I blame him much, with the whole Iverson/Hamilton debacle.

[QuinielaBox]

I feel the need for Sheed. He can bring his 32 kids and 24 women to the games and really add to the family atmosphere at the Garden

Sounds like a day care opportunity for my ex-wife, YEESH.

Thought the referees gave us the short end of the stick last year. Man you ain't seen nothing until you put Sheed, the leader in career technical fouls in the history of the NBA.

I'll take either or both on the Celtics thank you very much.

[threats13]

joining the thread kinda late however if anyone watched that Detroit-Cavs series you would have seen that Sheed did not give a hoot about what happened I dont think he even cared that they were in the playoffs.  Ive never seen a player so disinterested in my life.  Maybe its because he knew they were doomed and just wanted to get home and start the FA mess.  But I dont ever want a guy on my team who is willing to quit.  The Celtics foundation this year in the playoffs was never quitting and working hard.  Seems like Sheed doesnt fit that bill.  He doesnt seem like the type of player that will buy into our defense first, ball movement style of play.  I lived in Michigan the past 2 years saw alot of his games.  Hes a floater once hes not involved the game he setes up a tent and a port-a-potty at the 3 point line and camps out.  Not the type of player I want on my team sorry.

[Jon Niednagel]

Well, if Sheed does join the ship, it won't be possible to sit children in the lower bowl anymore. Could you imagine a frontline of Sheed, KG, and Perk? Even the hardest of criminals would leave the Garden with pee-soaked pants and emotional scars from listening to those guys. Plus, the C's might set a record for technical fouls in a season. Ah, what the hell. I feel the need for Sheed!

[jambr380]

All things being equal (which they wouldn't be), Rasheed is the obvious choice. He is a MUCH better player than McDyess, especially at this stage of their careers. I like McDyess and all, but really only at like 2-3 mill tops. Sheed is easily worth the full MLE and I would be PSYCHED if he took that to come here.

I can't believe this is even an actual debate. I guess I have been playing too much fantasy basketball.

[EJPLAYA]

Sheed has said he won't play for under 8 mil per season. We aren't that much of a lock that he is positive he gets a ring with us. Unless his friendship with KG makes him go back on his statement he isn't coming here. I think he is noticeably less effective and old now anyway. McDyess is the answer in this. We sign him for a reasonable figure, sign and trade BBD and add a young one and even a first rounder next year if needed to get back a very solid defensive stopper at the SF spot. Then pick up another lower end backup big man. We sign Marbury if he'll take vet minimum, Mikki at the vet minimum, and Powe for cheap. Turn loose or include in the trade TA and Pruitt.

Rondo/Marbury
Ray/House/Giddens
PP/?trade?/Walker
KG/Mcdyess/Scal/Powe
Perk/?FA?/Mikki

If Sheed is that FA signing to backup Perk as well then great. If not, then we'll find someone. He just has to be big. No more undersized bigs.

ok, I was with you until you said we should sign Mikki, then you lost me. He didn't even play in this year's playoffs when we desperately needed a big, why would he be useful next year if we upgrade the bench?

Your not focusing on the fact that I have him listed as the third center. He will be a little better next year than this year due to being able to go through camp with us and having more time in the system. He is however the third center and the third center isn't going to see time in the playoffs. He will only get time behind the other two centers, and the backup PF. He will be cheap and has some ability. If you can get someone for cheap that is a big upgrade then let's do it. We would be better off spending more money on the backup SF and PF and Center than worrying about the third center.

[hpantazo]

Sheed has said he won't play for under 8 mil per season. We aren't that much of a lock that he is positive he gets a ring with us. Unless his friendship with KG makes him go back on his statement he isn't coming here. I think he is noticeably less effective and old now anyway. McDyess is the answer in this. We sign him for a reasonable figure, sign and trade BBD and add a young one and even a first rounder next year if needed to get back a very solid defensive stopper at the SF spot. Then pick up another lower end backup big man. We sign Marbury if he'll take vet minimum, Mikki at the vet minimum, and Powe for cheap. Turn loose or include in the trade TA and Pruitt.

Rondo/Marbury
Ray/House/Giddens
PP/?trade?/Walker
KG/Mcdyess/Scal/Powe
Perk/?FA?/Mikki

If Sheed is that FA signing to backup Perk as well then great. If not, then we'll find someone. He just has to be big. No more undersized bigs.

ok, I was with you until you said we should sign Mikki, then you lost me. He didn't even play in this year's playoffs when we desperately needed a big, why would he be useful next year if we upgrade the bench?

Your not focusing on the fact that I have him listed as the third center. He will be a little better next year than this year due to being able to go through camp with us and having more time in the system. He is however the third center and the third center isn't going to see time in the playoffs. He will only get time behind the other two centers, and the backup PF. He will be cheap and has some ability. If you can get someone for cheap that is a big upgrade then let's do it. We would be better off spending more money on the backup SF and PF and Center than worrying about the third center.

makes sense, but at that point I would  rather sign our 2nd round pick from last year (Erden) and see what he can do

[wdleehi]

Wallace is the way to go.


His entire career, he has sacrificed his own numbers for the good of winning.  He would fit right in.

Assuming he buys in to the Celtics. He clearly quit on Detroit this year. Not that I blame him much, with the whole Iverson/Hamilton debacle.

He also lost his PG.  He has been playing off Billups (like most of the players). 

No other player has hurt other offensive players numbers then AI. 




More to the point, on the Celtics, he would be joining a defense 1st team.  I can see him be re-energized by that.

[Fafnir]

Wallace is the way to go.


His entire career, he has sacrificed his own numbers for the good of winning.  He would fit right in.

Assuming he buys in to the Celtics. He clearly quit on Detroit this year. Not that I blame him much, with the whole Iverson/Hamilton debacle.

He also lost his PG.  He has been playing off Billups (like most of the players). 

No other player has hurt other offensive players numbers then AI. 




More to the point, on the Celtics, he would be joining a defense 1st team.  I can see him be re-energized by that.

I agree. AI was a cancer to that team, and by trading for him they made it clear they were no longer trying to win it this year and that they would be showing Sheed the door. I'm not surprised he quit on them, but it is troublesome.

That said I'd take him for the full MLE in a heart beat.

[cornbreadsmart]

mcdyess is so likeable. but i don't have a lot of interest in him coming here right now. i guess i see him as a consolation prize right now. i'm hoping for marion or sheed.

[Roy Hobbs]

McDyess.  He's cheaper, a better rebounder and less erratic, and I like his shot selection better.