Author Topic: Why no discussion about Villanueva?  (Read 7499 times)

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Re: Why no discussion about Villanueva?
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2009, 03:57:03 PM »

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He is a 6'11", 24 year old power forward who averaged 16 points and 7 rebounds in 27 minutes per game last season. He would form a great bigman rotation with KG and Perkins, can space the floor, and can probably play some spot minutes behind Pierce. He has size, skills and numbers similar to Rasheed, without the baggage (and to be fair, without some of the toughness).

People have questioned his heart and defense over the years, but his charritable work leads me to believe the heart is there. The defense will come under Tom T and Kevin Garnett, just like it did for Ray.

Five years at the full MLE puts us in a very good position next season, and gives us a long term solution at power forward when KG retires.

I love it. I've been a big fan of Charlie's from UCONN to when the Raps signed him. The man can score, rebound, and pass. I agree that the defense will come. I think he just needs to be surrounded by tough guys who are hungry as opposed to soft guys who just want to get paid.
He shoots 45% from the field. He shoots 32% from three, but takes 3 per game. His rebound rate is nothing special either, though much better than BBDs. No thanks, not unless he takes around 3 million per year.

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He's struggled with lingering injuries on and off. He has the capability (not potential) of double-digit rebounding on a nightly basis. He went on a tear towards the end of this season, is probably unhappy in (Alice Cooper voice:) Mill-lay-walk-kay, and would be pumped to sign on with a contender IMO.
He really doesn't have the capability for double digit rebounding, not in the number of minutes you realistically would want him to play. His career rebounding rate is such that he'd need to play 40+ minutes to get 10 boards a night. Has he been injured his entire career.

He's also a very high usage player, he takes a lot of shots. Even worse he is the type of player who needs a lot of touches to stay mentally involved in the game. Worst of all, he's not an efficient shooter for a power forward. He's okay, but not great or even good.

He has great talent but I don't think he's got the mental game to be what we need. I won't be upset if we can acquire him without breaking the bank. Honestly as long as we upgrade our bench talent overall and fill out needs at the SF/PF/C with two solid players I'll be happy. But I'd prefer Gortat, Zaza, Sheed, Mcdyess, Joe Smith. The older guys would (hopefully!) be on shorter contracts than Charlie, for equal money Charlie be a better value.

Re: Why no discussion about Villanueva?
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2009, 06:26:48 PM »

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Where have you read that? Be absolutely certain of one thing: without a previous move that helps them to cut some salary, they won't be keeping Villanueva. Their priority is Sessions (and even Sessions is not a sure bet to stay) and they simply don't have additional room.

Good point.  But I fully expect them to make a move, prior to the draft (and free agency) to clear the space. 

You do? That's not what I'm hearing from there. They'll try to make room to keep Sessions as long as it doesn't take a drastic move; but they won't get out of their way to find space to keep Villanueva, neither are they going into tax territory because of him. They simply don't project Villanueva as a future starter for them (and, IMO, rightly so). Of course, if there's a deal that allows them to keep him on a cheap price, they'll do it, but they aren't making phone-calls or giving away valuable assets just to keep CV.