Doc's harsh assessment of Starbury's future...

[Fafnir]

I'm surprised by Doc's comments, I thought he loved Marbury's commitment and defense. Sure he shot the ball poorly but I would definitely bring him back this summer, especially when you consider the other affordable point guards free agents on the market...

Right, but steph is on record as saying he wants to start or be a 6th man next year, (he said he'd play 6th man for the celtics, but wanted more minutes) which he certainly didn't play well enough to warrant.

He hasn't shown enough to warrent that on the celtics, back up PG for limited minutes? sure, id do that for the minimum.

commit to giving him 6th man minutes? nope.

I agree on that, with his performances this year he doesn't deserve to be the 6th man of the bench next season, but he would be good for a backup role.

I think that many people are overlooking the impact of KG's absence on Marbury's performances. I mean, with KG on the floor at the same time, Marbury's job of scoring would be easier with the attention KG requires from the defenders and the open spaces he creates.

Of course, Marbury was (and is?) expected to perform with the bench and without KG but I think that it's unfair to judge him while he didn't have a chance to play with KG or with the whole Big Three at the same time on the court.

Marbury will be a bench player. He should be able to produce without the help of starters on the floor for him. If he can't do that he won't be able to produce what he should with them on the floor.

[Eeyore III]

I think that many people are overlooking the impact of KG's absence on Marbury's performances. I mean, with KG on the floor at the same time, Marbury's job of scoring would be easier with the attention KG requires from the defenders and the open spaces he creates.

Of course, Marbury was (and is?) expected to perform with the bench and without KG but I think that it's unfair to judge him while he didn't have a chance to play with KG or with the whole Big Three at the same time on the court.

An interesting point, which Grande mentioned several times, is that NEVER were Ticket and Starbury on the floor together.  Never.  And there was plenty of opportunity.

Thanks, Roy, for being the voice of sanity in interpreting Doc's comments.  I'd give you a TP, but you're starting to pull away from me.

Available PG UFAs include Ronnie Price, and I think Travis Diener is supposedly going to opt out.  Maybe the Cs will ask some of cordobes binkys to play in summer league.  This has gotta be Pruitt's last chance.  He was disappointing when given minutes last year.

[ssspence]

He didn't play good.


He is a team killer.



Celtics can do better for a backup PG

Will Bynum anyone?

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

Yeah thats pretty tough. I hope he comes back.

Not if he's going to pass up the open jump shots all season long

[crownsy]

I think that many people are overlooking the impact of KG's absence on Marbury's performances. I mean, with KG on the floor at the same time, Marbury's job of scoring would be easier with the attention KG requires from the defenders and the open spaces he creates.

Of course, Marbury was (and is?) expected to perform with the bench and without KG but I think that it's unfair to judge him while he didn't have a chance to play with KG or with the whole Big Three at the same time on the court.

An interesting point, which Grande mentioned several times, is that NEVER were Ticket and Starbury on the floor together.  Never.  And there was plenty of opportunity.

Thanks, Roy, for being the voice of sanity in interpreting Doc's comments.  I'd give you a TP, but you're starting to pull away from me.

Available PG UFAs include Ronnie Price, and I think Travis Diener is supposedly going to opt out.  Maybe the Cs will ask some of cordobes binkys to play in summer league.  This has gotta be Pruitt's last chance.  He was disappointing when given minutes last year.

plenty? really?

KG played limited minutes in 4 games with the starters in all steph's time here, that "plenty of opportunity?"

[acieEarl]

He didn't play good.


He is a team killer.



Celtics can do better for a backup PG

Will Bynum anyone?

I hear ya on Bynum. He out played Iverson and we could get him on the cheap.

[ssspence]

He didn't play good.


He is a team killer.



Celtics can do better for a backup PG

Will Bynum anyone?

I hear ya on Bynum. He out played Iverson and we could get him on the cheap.

want a spark off the bench -- pick some pockets and go to the basket? go bynum. need to go bigger -- put pruitt in instead. favorable match up for eddie? slide him over from the 2. this set-up is much more dynamic than marbury passing up jumpers all season.

[silverb]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Wizards pick up Marbury for cheap.
He has good history (one of very few) with Coach Saunders and the Wizards are trying to move Gilbert Arenas to the 2 spot.

A full training camp Marbury is, IMO a starter or atleast a 25 minute 6th man.

Marbury
Arenas
Butler
Jamison
Haywood

w/ up and coming Nick Young and Andre Blatche and then D. Stevenson....

If they pick Marbury up...Washington just might do some damage next year IF and thats a big IF...they get this TeamFirst Marbury who likes to pass and playmake.

[QuinielaBox]

"With Baby, it will probably come down to what he can get on the open market," Rivers said. "With Steph, it will probably come down to what we can get on the open market."

Ouch.  In other words, the Celtics are looking for an upgrade, and Starbury won't necessarily be asked back. 

Link.

Doc apparently agrees with me - Stephon stinks.

[jambr380]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Wizards pick up Marbury for cheap.
He has good history (one of very few) with Coach Saunders and the Wizards are trying to move Gilbert Arenas to the 2 spot.

A full training camp Marbury is, IMO a starter or atleast a 25 minute 6th man.

Marbury
Arenas
Butler
Jamison
Haywood

w/ up and coming Nick Young and Andre Blatche and then D. Stevenson....

If they pick Marbury up...Washington just might do some damage next year IF and thats a big IF...they get this TeamFirst Marbury who likes to pass and playmake.

I thought Marbury was a 'teamfirst, passer, playmaker'- he just couldn't shoot for his life. If many here don't even want Marbury as a back up PG (although I think he is just fine), how would Washington be dangerous with him starting?

[cordobes]

Bynum will be under contract with the Pistons next season.

Of course, the Pistons were smart enough to pick Bynum out of the European Leagues in the last off-season. There's a better PG than Bynum - and with a very similar game-style - playing in Europe that could be get for cheap.

If Ainge wants to add another PG besides House and Rondo who's good enough to contribute, he's the guy to go.

[pearljammer10]

I would love Marbury back. A full offseason of work and a full preseason of actually playing with the team and he could be the 6th man we've been looking for. I dont mind when him and House play together, we just need a lengthy athletic 3 to play the swing position while they are in the game...Its kind of funny that James Posey is the only one that comes to mind.

But back to Marbury, he showed that he still has the ability to play the game when he has that drive and isnt nervous. This season he was afraid to take the open shot and afraid to drive to the rim. When he missed a couple shots his whole game went hesitant. When he attacked the rim and was his fearless self he scored and got other guys great open looks with his passes. I think he would be great as the back up PG.

[Finkelskyhook]

Like Iverson, Marbury is going to get bigger money than he's worth from some idiot GM.  Marbury because somebody will think he can still play.  Iverson, because he unexplicably fills seats in spite of being a perennial selfish loser.

Marbury is going to get more than he's worth somewhere else.  Phoenix, Toronto, LAC, are a few of the teams with brain-dead GMs where both of these fools might land. Marbury would be a good fit to be overpaid in Phoenix.  Iverson would fit right in with the Clippers and their team of talented malcontent losers.

[guava_wrench]

Like Iverson, Marbury is going to get bigger money than he's worth from some idiot GM.  Marbury because somebody will think he can still play.  Iverson, because he unexplicably fills seats in spite of being a perennial selfish loser.

Marbury is going to get more than he's worth somewhere else.  Phoenix, Toronto, LAC, are a few of the teams with brain-dead GMs where both of these fools might land. Marbury would be a good fit to be overpaid in Phoenix.  Iverson would fit right in with the Clippers and their team of talented malcontent losers.

Which GMs do you consider to be brain-dead or idiots?

Do you consider yourself a better talent evaluator than them?

[wdleehi]

Like Iverson, Marbury is going to get bigger money than he's worth from some idiot GM.  Marbury because somebody will think he can still play.  Iverson, because he unexplicably fills seats in spite of being a perennial selfish loser.

Marbury is going to get more than he's worth somewhere else.  Phoenix, Toronto, LAC, are a few of the teams with brain-dead GMs where both of these fools might land. Marbury would be a good fit to be overpaid in Phoenix.  Iverson would fit right in with the Clippers and their team of talented malcontent losers.

I think Marbury is now looking down the same road Francis did. 


AI can probably get one more big contract from a team looking to sell tickets.