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Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2009, 02:06:44 PM »

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Yeah, because we need a dumber looking version of Scot Pollard who makes it on the court even less.

Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2009, 02:13:40 PM »

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I think the team really needs to ask itself how many projects we can carry on the roster this year, though.  If Swift signs on, I think that means we have to see Powe go (unless we can clear other roster space, potentially by doing a 2-for-1 that includes flotsam and jetsam like Tony Allen.)

It strikes me that given their cap situation, plus that fact that this is a veteran team, you're going to see projects at the bottom of the roster.

Perk and Rondo are both getting big time minutes next year.  I'm sure the plan will once again be to limit KG/PP/Ray's minutes, but you know that's not likely.  And if Baby is brought back, he needs major minutes to be effective.  Plus you've got Eddie.  That doesn't leave much and you're not going to overpay for a 10 MPG back up PG or Center.


Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2009, 02:37:12 PM »

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I haven't seen much of the guy play, but looking at his career path so far it has been similar to Perk in the first 4 years in the league so I wouldn't mind getting him for the minimum as the 3rd string center.

Both Perk and Swift came into the league out of high school. Both hardly played in their 1st year. Both had a breakthrough year- Swift in his 2nd year where he averaged 6.4 points/5.6 boards/1.2 blocks in 21 minutes and Perk in his 3rd year where he averaged 5.2 points/5.9 rebounds/1.5 blocks in 20 minutes. Both battled injuries which hampered their development the following year - Perk whith the plantar fasciatis and his shoulder troubles and Swift with the torn ACL.

Perk had a breakout year in his 5th season with the big 3 and further improved in his 6th season. Swift is entering his 5th year and looking at how similar the career paths of these players have been, this might me Swifts breakout year as well. At worst he is 7-1, 270 pounds so he gives us length and wont get pushed around like O'Bryant/Moore.

Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2009, 02:58:40 PM »

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I haven't seen much of the guy play, but looking at his career path so far it has been similar to Perk in the first 4 years in the league so I wouldn't mind getting him for the minimum as the 3rd string center.

Both Perk and Swift came into the league out of high school. Both hardly played in their 1st year. Both had a breakthrough year- Swift in his 2nd year where he averaged 6.4 points/5.6 boards/1.2 blocks in 21 minutes and Perk in his 3rd year where he averaged 5.2 points/5.9 rebounds/1.5 blocks in 20 minutes. Both battled injuries which hampered their development the following year - Perk whith the plantar fasciatis and his shoulder troubles and Swift with the torn ACL.

Perk had a breakout year in his 5th season with the big 3 and further improved in his 6th season. Swift is entering his 5th year and looking at how similar the career paths of these players have been, this might me Swifts breakout year as well. At worst he is 7-1, 270 pounds so he gives us length and wont get pushed around like O'Bryant/Moore.

The difference is that Perk played through a lot of the injuries you point out.  Swift hasn't played the equal to a full season in his entire career combined.

Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2009, 03:33:32 PM »

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Robert Swift - The only time you'll see Swift in a C's uniform is maybe a Summer league game...... Puhleeze. YEEEESHHHH!!!!
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Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2009, 03:36:03 PM »

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I haven't seen much of the guy play, but looking at his career path so far it has been similar to Perk in the first 4 years in the league so I wouldn't mind getting him for the minimum as the 3rd string center.

Both Perk and Swift came into the league out of high school. Both hardly played in their 1st year. Both had a breakthrough year- Swift in his 2nd year where he averaged 6.4 points/5.6 boards/1.2 blocks in 21 minutes and Perk in his 3rd year where he averaged 5.2 points/5.9 rebounds/1.5 blocks in 20 minutes. Both battled injuries which hampered their development the following year - Perk whith the plantar fasciatis and his shoulder troubles and Swift with the torn ACL.

Perk had a breakout year in his 5th season with the big 3 and further improved in his 6th season. Swift is entering his 5th year and looking at how similar the career paths of these players have been, this might me Swifts breakout year as well. At worst he is 7-1, 270 pounds so he gives us length and wont get pushed around like O'Bryant/Moore.

The difference is that Perk played through a lot of the injuries you point out.  Swift hasn't played the equal to a full season in his entire career combined.

The key part of his post are the first 8 words.

Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2009, 03:54:34 PM »

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I haven't seen much of the guy play, but looking at his career path so far it has been similar to Perk in the first 4 years in the league so I wouldn't mind getting him for the minimum as the 3rd string center.

Both Perk and Swift came into the league out of high school. Both hardly played in their 1st year. Both had a breakthrough year- Swift in his 2nd year where he averaged 6.4 points/5.6 boards/1.2 blocks in 21 minutes and Perk in his 3rd year where he averaged 5.2 points/5.9 rebounds/1.5 blocks in 20 minutes. Both battled injuries which hampered their development the following year - Perk whith the plantar fasciatis and his shoulder troubles and Swift with the torn ACL.

Perk had a breakout year in his 5th season with the big 3 and further improved in his 6th season. Swift is entering his 5th year and looking at how similar the career paths of these players have been, this might me Swifts breakout year as well. At worst he is 7-1, 270 pounds so he gives us length and wont get pushed around like O'Bryant/Moore.

The difference is that Perk played through a lot of the injuries you point out.  Swift hasn't played the equal to a full season in his entire career combined.

Not to mention that Swift's ACL injury is more of a major injury than what Perk has had done. Perks battle tested. Can't really compare the two. I'd bring him in to take a look. Not going cost more than minimum.

The key part of his post are the first 8 words.

Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2009, 05:27:27 PM »

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Yeah, same as a lot of others.  He's intriguing; however, if he's going to be the next Patrick O'Bryant, the team really can't afford it.  If McDyess or Wallace end up here and Swift comes aboard, that's fine.  But I don't really see how we have the roster room for that unless things shake up differently this offseason. 

Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2009, 05:31:17 PM »

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Simply terrifying -- the idea of three roster spots being used on a flawed big like Scalabrine, an injured big in Powe, and a complete project in Swift -- terrifying!

The team will still need a dependable first and second big man off the bench. Terrifying!

Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2009, 07:37:55 PM »

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Swift's name should never be mentioned in the same sentence with Perkins.

I have seen him play, and Roy's right. He's a better 5 than Mikki Moore.

But so am I, and I'm 6-3 and in my 40s.

I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that Swift can play in this league. But since Danny clearly fancies himself as some sort of Svengali who can discover hidden big gems - cough, cough, Paddy O'Blount - I'm willing to negotiate.

Bring in an actual 5, Danny - Dice, for example - and you can have your weird kind of Alcoholics Anonymous fun with another dumpster dive at the 5.

But don't even THINK about Swift as Perk's backup.
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Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2009, 08:10:27 PM »

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You'd hope that the frontcourt-depth issues we dealt with in the playoffs will be enough to convince management to not penny-pinch with free agency.  You don't have to offer stupid money, but a 3 year, full-MLE deal seems about right for Dice; make the offer.  I'm not sure Detroit necessarily wants to match that.  No more vet-min projects like POB without making first [dang] sure that we've got enough legit NBA players on the bench.  The discussion has always been around a three-year window; if you don't pull out the stops for a title now, you've wasted much of the Big 3's remaining prime and cost yourself $$ in the process.

Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2009, 08:46:08 PM »

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The injuries provide those who remain in denial about Danny's terrible summer of 2008 an excuse - but not a rationale.

One year is gone, lost to injuries and a total failure by management to prepare this club.

It's time to get aggressive again in the off-season, with free agents and in packaging our spare parts.
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Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2009, 09:05:23 PM »

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The injuries provide those who remain in denial about Danny's terrible summer of 2008 an excuse - but not a rationale.

One year is gone, lost to injuries and a total failure by management to prepare this club.

It's time to get aggressive again in the off-season, with free agents and in packaging our spare parts.

  Who's in denial? I'd say it's the people who still claim that Ainge knocked us from the ranks of realistic title contenders with his "total failure" last summer when the results were clearly showing the opposite was true.

Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2009, 09:06:14 PM »

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The injuries provide those who remain in denial about Danny's terrible summer of 2008 an excuse - but not a rationale.

One year is gone, lost to injuries and a total failure by management to prepare this club.

It's time to get aggressive again in the off-season, with free agents and in packaging our spare parts.

  Who's in denial? I'd say it's the people who still claim that Ainge knocked us from the ranks of realistic title contenders with his "total failure" last summer when the results were clearly showing the opposite was true.

My point made. Thank you.
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Re: Time for the Robert Swift Era?
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2009, 09:24:52 PM »

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The injuries provide those who remain in denial about Danny's terrible summer of 2008 an excuse - but not a rationale.

One year is gone, lost to injuries and a total failure by management to prepare this club.

It's time to get aggressive again in the off-season, with free agents and in packaging our spare parts.

  Who's in denial? I'd say it's the people who still claim that Ainge knocked us from the ranks of realistic title contenders with his "total failure" last summer when the results were clearly showing the opposite was true.

My point made. Thank you.

  As far as you know it was.