Where Do We Go Now? (Celts off season plan)

[JSD]

I can seriously not think of one time in the last 10 years this has happened.

IP, You think the Pistons are a playoff team right now?

Well, I mean..they were in the playoffs this season so yeah,

They're one of the teams in a position to do whatever they want. They could offer a max deal this season, or they could just pocket it, wait a year, finish between 7-10 in the east and try for one of the really big names.

With Boozer though they are better than a 8-10 place. Boozer is a heck of a talent, and lets not underestimate how good these guys have the potential to be, and how envirogating a fresh season can be. They're on par with Philly at the least.

They were an 8th seed with AI, McDyess and Rasheed. Even if you add Boozer, taking away those three players your not a playoff team. The Pistons need to completely blow it up IMO. Otherwise they will just be "pretty good" for the next 5 years.

[crownsy]

I can seriously not think of one time in the last 10 years this has happened.

IP, You think the Pistons are a playoff team right now?

Well, I mean..they were in the playoffs this season so yeah,

They're one of the teams in a position to do whatever they want. They could offer a max deal this season, or they could just pocket it, wait a year, finish between 7-10 in the east and try for one of the really big names.

With Boozer though they are better than a 8-10 place. Boozer is a heck of a talent, and lets not underestimate how good these guys have the potential to be, and how envirogating a fresh season can be. They're on par with Philly at the least.

They were an 8th seed with AI, McDyess and Rasheed. Even if you add Boozer, taking away those three players your not a playoff team. The Pistons need to completely blow it up IMO. Otherwise they will just be "pretty good" for the next 5 years.

They had a player revolting and ruining the locker room, two players (who are gone one FA starts) who knew they were gone and resented it, and a situation where a rookie PG was handed the reins.

I'm nto really surprised that wasn't a series title contender, and they didn't try every night. sheed can't be bothered to try when he cares, never mind when he's a lame duck contract wise. They are (in theroy) solving all three of those problems this offseason though.

what did AI and sheed give them this year other than half ass unprofessional play while they collected their pay checks and waited for Free agency?

[indeedproceed]

Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Rodney Stuckey and Carlos Boozer is a better core to me than everyone but the C's, Magic, Cavs and Hawks.

Sprinkle some Dumars magic around there, and they're doing well. They'll still have Amir Johnson and Jason Maxiell. This team has the potential to be decent next season, and I would say that Sheed's passive play along with AI's weird lack of meshing ability played a much bigger role in Detroit's first round bounce than the actual talent the team possessed. Also remember Cleveland is gangbusters right now.

[dlpin]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

[Lucky17]

Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Rodney Stuckey and Carlos Boozer is a better core to me than everyone but the C's, Magic, Cavs and Hawks.

Sprinkle some Dumars magic around there, and they're doing well. They'll still have Amir Johnson and Jason Maxiell. This team has the potential to be decent next season, and I would say that Sheed's passive play along with AI's weird lack of meshing ability played a much bigger role in Detroit's first round bounce than the actual talent the team possessed. Also remember Cleveland is gangbusters right now.

I'm not a big fan of Boozer either, mostly because he lacks the toughness that Dumars' teams are known for.

Pistons can go after RFA David Lee, and still offer a ton of payroll relief to NO for Chandler, without having to give up much in return.

They could also make serious offers for Bosh or Amare, without having to give up any of their three best players (Stuckey, Rip, Tayshaun) in return.

[cordobes]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

I'd wish that people who are going to post trade ideas this off-season will take that line of reasoning into consideration. Not only if the trade makes sense for both teams, but if it's realistic to expect that no team will put a better offer on the table than the C's.

[Roy Hobbs]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

I'd wish that people who are going to post trade ideas this off-season will take that line of reasoning into consideration. Not only if the trade makes sense for both teams, but if it's realistic to expect that no team will put a better offer on the table than the C's.

Good luck with that.   Wishing for realistic trade ideas on a message board generally tends to be a pipe dream.

I agree that it's important to consider what our competition is offering, although it's also important to remember that sometimes, crazy trades get made.  (For example, at the time did anybody really believe that the Lakers offer was the best deal Memphis would be offered?)  Overall, though, I agree with your point.

[JSD]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

I'd wish that people who are going to post trade ideas this off-season will take that line of reasoning into consideration. Not only if the trade makes sense for both teams, but if it's realistic to expect that no team will put a better offer on the table than the C's.

One should not take such a smug tone without looking at ideas with an open mind and from all angles. The dynamics of the NBA have changed, it's no longer about talent for talent it's about the bottom line

[dlpin]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

I'd wish that people who are going to post trade ideas this off-season will take that line of reasoning into consideration. Not only if the trade makes sense for both teams, but if it's realistic to expect that no team will put a better offer on the table than the C's.

One should not take such a smug tone without looking at ideas with an open mind and from all angles. The dynamics of the NBA have changed, it's no longer about talent for talent it's about the bottom line

How was that smug?
And even being about the bottom line, about 25 other teams can offer better value than simply expiring contracts by adding draft picks to the deal and we wouldnt be able to match.

[crownsy]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

I'd wish that people who are going to post trade ideas this off-season will take that line of reasoning into consideration. Not only if the trade makes sense for both teams, but if it's realistic to expect that no team will put a better offer on the table than the C's.

One should not take such a smug tone without looking at ideas with an open mind and from all angles. The dynamics of the NBA have changed, it's no longer about talent for talent it's about the bottom line

How was that smug?
And even being about the bottom line, about 25 other teams can offer better value than simply expiring contracts by adding draft picks to the deal and we wouldnt be able to match.

gotta agree, most of the trade idea's are very "wouldn't this be awesome for us" which they mostly are, but they don't offer a rational for why the other team would even bother. Some trades do offer that rational, but its rare.

[JSD]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

I'd wish that people who are going to post trade ideas this off-season will take that line of reasoning into consideration. Not only if the trade makes sense for both teams, but if it's realistic to expect that no team will put a better offer on the table than the C's.

One should not take such a smug tone without looking at ideas with an open mind and from all angles. The dynamics of the NBA have changed, it's no longer about talent for talent it's about the bottom line

How was that smug?
And even being about the bottom line, about 25 other teams can offer better value than simply expiring contracts by adding draft picks to the deal and we wouldnt be able to match.

And that are on the market for Prince? Who? All I'm saying is if the Pistons chose to move Tay (which I believe they will), the Celtics have the pieces in expiring contracts, players to fill out roster and draft picks. People can disagree and that's fine, but I don't appreciate condescending posts that point to my ideas as not being well thought out.

[JSD]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

I'd wish that people who are going to post trade ideas this off-season will take that line of reasoning into consideration. Not only if the trade makes sense for both teams, but if it's realistic to expect that no team will put a better offer on the table than the C's.

One should not take such a smug tone without looking at ideas with an open mind and from all angles. The dynamics of the NBA have changed, it's no longer about talent for talent it's about the bottom line

How was that smug?
And even being about the bottom line, about 25 other teams can offer better value than simply expiring contracts by adding draft picks to the deal and we wouldnt be able to match.

gotta agree, most of the trade idea's are very "wouldn't this be awesome for us" which they mostly are, but they don't offer a rational for why the other team would even bother. Some trades do offer that rational, but its rare.

Yeah, like Camby for a 2nd Rounder? The Nuggets would never do that...

[ACF]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

I'd wish that people who are going to post trade ideas this off-season will take that line of reasoning into consideration. Not only if the trade makes sense for both teams, but if it's realistic to expect that no team will put a better offer on the table than the C's.

Check your inbox please, cordobes.

[wiley]

My off-season plan is to do what it takes/make it a goal to be the #1 defensive team in the league next year.  

IMO you do that by parting with 1 or 2 of your lesser defenders in the right kind of deal, and signing not 1 but 2 or 3 defensive studs.

[BballTim]

Regardless of whether or not Detroit will be trading Rip or Prince, does anyone think that we have the tools to make the best possible offer?

I guarantee half the league could offer more value than the celtics for those two.

I'd wish that people who are going to post trade ideas this off-season will take that line of reasoning into consideration. Not only if the trade makes sense for both teams, but if it's realistic to expect that no team will put a better offer on the table than the C's.

  On one hand, this is true. On the other hand, everyone said that KG< Ray Allen and Pau Gasol were traded for pennies on the dollar. Not saying it applies to Prince but bringing back a longer deal often makes up for a talent mismatch in a trade.