Where Do We Go Now? (Celts off season plan)

[WeMadeIt17]

That is what i am wondering you know this management did nothing really this past off-season. I know there are big names being thrown around (Ron Artest and Chris Bosh come to mind) but we shall see what our management does from here hopefully something that makes us all proud 

[celticpride07]

resign big baby
marbury back for cheap
rasheed wallace?
grant hill?

[Casperian]

Job one is to get KG healthy. No KG, no title next year.

Job two is to find a competent three. Pierce cannot go these kinds of minutes, and the proof is in the playoffs. Sounds like Nocioni's going to be out there again, and he intrigues me if he can be induced to defend. He appears to have the skills and the quickness to be a younger - and more expensive - version of the unfairly reviled James Posey.
As a postscript, miss you, Pose. A lot.

Job three ... quit experimenting at the backup 5 and the backup 1. Get out the checkbook and find a couple of decent veterans. They don't have to be stars. But they need to do a few things fairly well. Perhaps you can buy a late first rounder and find that backup 5 in the draft. Some competent youth ... not the reaches we've been drafting like Pruitt, etc.

Job four is to end the Tony Allen experiment. It's over. He cannot help a championship team. Buy him out, trade him, waive him, release him, whatever. He has to go. So does Mikki Moore and Steph. We have to do better at both positions.

Job five is to get through to Rondo. His game has improved. His game can improve some more. His attention to detail and his commitment to the game aren't there yet, as tonight clearly showed.

Job six: Davis. I'm interested, but only at the right price. $10 large for three sounds about right. Any more, and I have to allocate the resources to more pressing needs.

I agreed before the season, and I still agree. Time to stop the experiments on the bench and get rid of useless guys like TA, Moore or Marbury.

TP

[CoachBo]

That is what i am wondering you know this management did nothing really this past off-season. I know there are big names being thrown around (Ron Artest and Chris Bosh come to mind) but we shall see what our management does from here hopefully something that makes us all proud 

I hate to say this, but I don't see anything big in the offing unless some club has an interesting offer for Ray's expiring contract. LBJ ain't going to Toronto, so I can't see Bosh. And I don't recall what Artest makes, so I can't address that.

[RebusRankin]

I can see BBD being resigned for around 3.5 -4 million a year. Something like Rasho Nesterovic for the Vets minimum or part of the MLE. Somebody like Udoke for the 3. Marbury for cheap. Pruitt and Moore gone.

So a bench with House, Marbury, Udoke, BBD and Rasho.

Not what I want but what we might see.

[daveh51292]

Let's NOT do what Detroit did, and sign someone like AI while giving away our best pieces in a panicked attempt to revitalize the team.

[Cman]

Bo, I agree with a lot of what you said.  Some of the stuff you mention will take care of itself (ie: we will just hope and pray about KG).

I think a lot of how the offseason plays out depends on how realistic the owners believe another championship to be in the next 2-3 years.  We won't know until we see how they allocate the MLE and whether or not they resign BBD.  Since the Cs are close to luxury tax territory (or over) for next year, signing BBD and using the full MLE will have big repurcutions on the bottom line.  One positive thing is that it seems that the owners ARE willing to spend, but that they have their sights set on certain players for certain amounts of money, and if it doesn't pan out, they won't be willing to spend more.  eg: last year they tried to resign Posey, but not for more than a certain amount.  Likewise, they tried to sign Maggs, but couldn't spend more than the MLE. 

As a fan, obviously I hope I am surprised and the owners make big (smart) moves for players that really improve the short and long term prospects of this team.

[CoachBo]

I can see BBD being resigned for around 3.5 -4 million a year. Something like Rasho Nesterovic for the Vets minimum or part of the MLE. Somebody like Udoke for the 3. Marbury for cheap. Pruitt and Moore gone.

So a bench with House, Marbury, Udoke, BBD and Rasho.

Not what I want but what we might see.

Yeah, that doesn't excite me. But it's an improvement over what we started this season with, and it might get us to the point where - with better decisions at the deadline - we can piece together something useful.

[get_banners]

artest at this point would be pretty freaking good for us...this is a locker room where he'd be fine (though i think he was a pretty good leader in houston this year, as-is). i'm thinking mcdyess is probably the best FA option for us, though. he wants to win, he could give us exactly what we need in the front court. protecting KG is going to be the most important thing going forward, and mcdyess would be the perfect back-up.

[WeMadeIt17]

Nice list of the F/A's that will be on the market this summer so there that is hopefully we can get some good ones...


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-09-10

[KungPoweChicken]

First off, get KG healthy. Like someone else already said, no KG, no title. Let Big Baby, Powe, and Marbury go. Make a strong run at McDyess and Hill in free agency. Sign a filler at the center position for the minimum; this guy doesn't have to be spectacular by any means--he just has to be better than Mikki Moore. With McDyess at the power foward spot, the backup center won't be playing much anyway. I would feel very comfortable with this bench: House, Allen, Hill, McDyess, and Scalabrine. Plus, we'll sign a serviceable center.

[CoachBo]

Bo, I agree with a lot of what you said.  Some of the stuff you mention will take care of itself (ie: we will just hope and pray about KG).

I think a lot of how the offseason plays out depends on how realistic the owners believe another championship to be in the next 2-3 years.  We won't know until we see how they allocate the MLE and whether or not they resign BBD.  Since the Cs are close to luxury tax territory (or over) for next year, signing BBD and using the full MLE will have big repurcutions on the bottom line.  One positive thing is that it seems that the owners ARE willing to spend, but that they have their sights set on certain players for certain amounts of money, and if it doesn't pan out, they won't be willing to spend more.  eg: last year they tried to resign Posey, but not for more than a certain amount.  Likewise, they tried to sign Maggs, but couldn't spend more than the MLE. 

As a fan, obviously I hope I am surprised and the owners make big (smart) moves for players that really improve the short and long term prospects of this team.

I think that's the reality of the situation. As is this: Management is interested in a title, but only at their price. We've seen one example of what can happen "at their price," and it wasn't pretty after a season of bad personnel decisions.

I'll use Pierce as an example. What in the world were they thinking, going an entire season without competent help for him off the bench? There are only so many miles in a basketball player's legs, and they used a bunch of them up in Pierce this year - and his playoff performance proves it. That's the actual cost of the Posey mistake: You lose two players, Posey for the entire season and Pierce for the playoffs. All over a handful of millions, NBA pocket change. Had a chance at the deadline to correct that mistake, and held onto a great kid who's future is now at least a year down the road. Probably a good decision at the time, but certainly subject to the second-guess right now. Penny wise, and now we're watching the playoffs, heading for a summer where doubts surround our two HOFers.

People go ape when I suggest this, but I'm going to say it again: I appreciate 17. But if you're going to move Al Jefferson for one title, I question the wisdom of that. Once the Garnett and Ray deals were made, it's absolute insanity to start pinching the budget and queing up the Streisand version of "Memories." If you're not committed to maximizing their windows, then don't make the deals.

It's going to be a very interesting summer. Is Wyc going to pinch the budget again? Will Danny avoid another "oh-fer" summer? Will we get Garnett back? If not ... ugh.

[ma11l]

Tonight's loss is too fresh for me to get into the details with the names and the numbers, just an overall outlook.

Hopefully the whole organization was humbled by tonight.  Players, coaches, and management alike need to go their jobs this summer.

For the veterans that is balancing rest and work.  They need to get healthy and get their legs back.

The young guys need to work, work, work.  Rondo and Davis need to keep working on their shots.  The young guys need to be in the gym and working on their all around games.

Danny and Wyc are going to have some options.  Obviously the main thing is the bench.  We need to find solidified backups at the 1, 3 and 5 spot.



I finally understand why it's so hard to repeat as champions.  Last year we played some many games, and well into June.  The win was followed by a ton of celebrating; parties, parades, talk shows, Vegas trips.  This summer will be a lot difference.  It will be longer, and more relaxed.  Also this loss should give the team an edge they didn't have last summer.  They should be even more hungry.  It's going to be a long offseason, but I'll just look at it as a chance to get KG healthy, Ray and Paul some rest, and management a chance to make some good signings.

[BadNewsBarnes]

A couple of people mentioned McDyess and G. Hill.  Those are the two I'd love to see us add.  And please let's get rid of TA.  As someone else said package him will Scal and let's see what we can get.  The financial landscape of various NBA teams may create some unique opportunities let's hope we're the beneficiaries of some teams just trying to unload salaries.

[RebusRankin]

What do you think of Rodney Carney from Minnesota who's a fa? 6ft7, played decent last year. How would he be as a Pierce back-up? Could we get him for a decent price?