Speaking physics the ball had to have hit the rim

[vagrantwade]

a ball with that back-to-the-right english on it, would not drop down to the right of the rim if it hit the net.

It just wouldn't. It would have went through the net or dropped straight to straight-forward.

It dropped down and to the right to perkins because the backspin caught the bottom of the rim on the top of the ball.

Just clearing it up.

[cdif911]

coulda been a really hard net =) I don't care how they won, I care that they won!

[LarBrd33]

great win that will be soiled by endless whining from everyone outside of Boston about how the refs fixed it for us.  Really...

Huge way to take the lead, but... did it hit rim?  eh.......

[markketch]

Even if it *did* hit rim, it should have been a jump ball, not side out Celtics.

[ACF]

I agree, it did.
I was thinking the same  thing
when I watched the replay.

TP.

[Roy Hobbs]

I think it hit the net, about a foot below the rim.  I don't really care at this point, though.

[vagrantwade]

Even if it *did* hit rim, it should have been a jump ball, not side out Celtics.

One of the refs must have clearly thought it hit the rim, which is why it wasn't a jump ball.

And I recorded the 4th quarter of the game on my computer. I've watched it a dozen times. not including the replays.

[cdif911]

great win that will be soiled by endless whining from everyone outside of Boston about how the refs fixed it for us.  Really...

Huge way to take the lead, but... did it hit rim?  eh.......

to hit the rim, or to not hit the rim.... that is the question

[ma11l]

In real time it absolutely looked like it hit the rim.  When they slowed it down it looked a lot closer.  I still think the ball hit the rim, but of course I'm biased.

Our big wins seem to always have criticism for them the next day.  Paul and the wheelchair, Rondo's non-flagarant, now this.

[markketch]

One of the refs must have clearly thought it hit the rim, which is why it wasn't a jump ball.

And I recorded the 4th quarter of the game on my computer. I've watched it a dozen times. not including the replays.

There are 3 officials, so in that case you would think 2 of them would have to agree that the ball hit the rim to overturn the call on the court. The official nearest the rim ruled that it did not hit the rim, so it came away from the ball.

The play was so close that it SHOULD have been a jump ball. The probability that one official clearly saw it hit the rim, yet that action managed to evade several replays, is highly unlikely.

You've watched it a dozen times, but you're also highly subject to rater bias.  It was in no way an obvious "yes-no" play, which is why even Celtics fans can't agree on what happened.

To definitively say it hit the rim from the replays we all saw would be silly. It's ok to admit that the Celtics were the benefactors of a very close call which appeared to be improperly overturned given the situation. The Magic still failed on several other fronts, which ultimately cost them the game.

[cordobes]

Difficult call for the refs. There was a blatant travel violation by Howard in the 1st half that they forgot to call. Referees just make mistakes.

[markketch]

Difficult call for the refs. There was a blatant travel violation by Howard in the 1st half that they forgot to call. Referees just make mistakes.

There are blown calls every game, but do you not think that confusion on a 24 second call should at least resort to a jump ball? It wasn't like one official called it right away, they had to huddle for a bit to make the decision. 

In those types of cases, at that point in the game, a jump ball seems the most logical resolution.

[dlpin]

Difficult call for the refs. There was a blatant travel violation by Howard in the 1st half that they forgot to call. Referees just make mistakes.

There are blown calls every game, but do you not think that confusion on a 24 second call should at least resort to a jump ball? It wasn't like one official called it right away, they had to huddle for a bit to make the decision. 

In those types of cases, at that point in the game, a jump ball seems the most logical resolution.

While you may think that is the "common sense" solution, it is nowhere in the rules and as such it would never happen.

http://www.basketball.com/nba/rules/rule6.shtml#III

This wasn't a double foul, nor a loose ball, nor did the ball go out of bounds. There is no provision in the rules as to have a jump ball when there is a difference of opinion between refs. As such, the refs had two choices, and only two choices:

- rule that it was a 24 second violation and give the ball to the Magic.
- Rule that it was not a 24 second violation, in which case the whistle that stopped the play was an inadvertent whistle and its celtics ball.

[vinnie]

Even if it *did* hit rim, it should have been a jump ball, not side out Celtics.

Wrong. Hit rim and rebound went right to Perkins. If the refs got it right, Perkins would have gone right back up and slammed it home. I'm still waiting for the league to reverse the Portland 6-man basket.

I was at the game and sitting straight across from the basket. It definitely hit the rim.

[vinnie]

Difficult call for the refs. There was a blatant travel violation by Howard in the 1st half that they forgot to call. Referees just make mistakes.

That play was unbelievable. He took like four steps. I thought I was going to get tossed by the ushers as I unleashed my fury (no profanities though) against the refs.