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Re: Alston
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2009, 12:05:58 AM »

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I don't think Alston will be suspended...a hit like that isn't going to get a suspension, it'll probably be upgraded to a Flagrant 1 and Alston'll get a fine, but I can't imagine a suspension for that.

I think you and ticket greatly underestimate stu jackson's sensitvity to strikes of any kind to a players head after a play.

the leauge has been very clear on this since the palace. Do something for no other reason than to provoke a fight after a play is done, and by chance you don't get tossed out of that game, your gone the next one.

It's been pretty cut and dry.

As I said, I am still very surprised that Rondo was not suspended after the Hinrich incident.  He threw Hinrich into the press box, then threw an elbow after Hinrich retaliated.  He was clearly provoking a fight after whistled had blown and refs had entered the fray. 

The league is going to be opening up major conspiracy theory talk if they suspend Alston for that after letting Rondo go on two consecutive suspendable offenses.

Kenny and Charles are both saying suspension, no question, right now.  Don't get me wrong, I hope they're right... I just don't think he deserves one.


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Re: Alston
« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2009, 12:06:53 AM »

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I don't think Alston will be suspended...a hit like that isn't going to get a suspension, it'll probably be upgraded to a Flagrant 1 and Alston'll get a fine, but I can't imagine a suspension for that.

I think you and ticket greatly underestimate stu jackson's sensitvity to strikes of any kind to a players head after a play.

the leauge has been very clear on this since the palace. Do something for no other reason than to provoke a fight after a play is done, and by chance you don't get tossed out of that game, your gone the next one.

It's been pretty cut and dry.

As I said, I am still very surprised that Rondo was not suspended after the Hinrich incident.  He threw Hinrich into the press box, then threw an elbow after Hinrich retaliated.  He was clearly provoking a fight after whistled had blown and refs had entered the fray. 

The league is going to be opening up major conspiracy theory talk if they suspend Alston for that after letting Rondo go on two consecutive suspendable offenses.

Kenny and Charles are both saying suspension, no question, right now.  Don't get me wrong, I hope they're right... I just don't think he deserves one.

but we are not talking about rondo here... ;)
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Re: Alston
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2009, 12:07:00 AM »

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Well, I hope I'm wrong on this one.  I'll be pleasantly surprised if he's out for Game 3, but I just can't see it happening.

Not a good sign when the AP recap doesn't even mention the play.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=290506002

TNT is talking about it. They will have a story on ESPN. The League will definitely review it.

I think he'll be suspended. He struck another players head from behind away from the ball, during a 20 point playoff game. You have to punish players for that if you don't want some good old fashioned brawls on the court.

Re: Alston
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2009, 12:11:24 AM »

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I don't think Alston will be suspended...a hit like that isn't going to get a suspension, it'll probably be upgraded to a Flagrant 1 and Alston'll get a fine, but I can't imagine a suspension for that.

I think you and ticket greatly underestimate stu jackson's sensitvity to strikes of any kind to a players head after a play.

the leauge has been very clear on this since the palace. Do something for no other reason than to provoke a fight after a play is done, and by chance you don't get tossed out of that game, your gone the next one.

It's been pretty cut and dry.

As I said, I am still very surprised that Rondo was not suspended after the Hinrich incident.  He threw Hinrich into the press box, then threw an elbow after Hinrich retaliated.  He was clearly provoking a fight after whistled had blown and refs had entered the fray. 

The league is going to be opening up major conspiracy theory talk if they suspend Alston for that after letting Rondo go on two consecutive suspendable offenses.

Kenny and Charles are both saying suspension, no question, right now.  Don't get me wrong, I hope they're right... I just don't think he deserves one.
Hinrich had his arm inside Rondo's jersey. This ****ed Rondo off and he grabbed his arm and pulled. That is bad but is it really that different from what Dwight Howard did to baby to get a rebound when he was called for an offensive foul? The elbow was more questionable but it wasn't aimed at his head and was more of a push.

Rondo was punished according to the officials, the refs are supposed to have leeway and I wasn't surprised he wasn't suspended. Because the officials just gave a double T I think Alston will be punished further.

Alston struck a man in the head from behind away from the ball in a blow out. You can't allow that. If he plays in game 3 I expect a Perkins moving screen to blow his ass up. Twice.

Re: Alston
« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2009, 12:13:49 AM »

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He will 100% be suspended. If you don't suspend him, you're saying that any player can go around and slap players in the back of the head. He was starting trouble out there, and Stern is doing everything he can to get actions like that out of the game.

Skip To My Loser may get away with that at Rucker Park, but not the NBA.

Re: Alston
« Reply #65 on: May 07, 2009, 12:29:25 AM »

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someone mentioned to me there was an altercation in the hallway after the game. hope no c's gettin in trouble. anybody know or hear anything?

Re: Alston
« Reply #66 on: May 07, 2009, 12:30:02 AM »

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someone mentioned to me there was an altercation in the hallway after the game. hope no c's gettin in trouble. anybody know or hear anything?

Where did you hear that???
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Re: Alston
« Reply #67 on: May 07, 2009, 12:32:24 AM »

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someone mentioned to me there was an altercation in the hallway after the game. hope no c's gettin in trouble. anybody know or hear anything?

someone?

oh well
At least I can guarantee i thought House told Alston they 2 should take the thing outside , lol, like in school or in a restaurant...lol
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Re: Alston
« Reply #68 on: May 07, 2009, 12:36:01 AM »

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sorry guys.my apologies. she does'nt watch. she could have the wrong game for all i know.i posted here as soon as she said somethin' cuz i freaked.

Re: Alston
« Reply #69 on: May 07, 2009, 12:37:27 AM »

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Mike Lynch reported that Alston and House had a heated exchange in the hallway after the press conferences. House essentially said that he thought Alston had been smacked up aside the head so much tonight (by House nailing shots) that he needed to retaliate...can see how that might get Rafer a bit perturbed.
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Re: Alston
« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2009, 01:06:22 AM »

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I don't think there is any doubt Alston gets suspended for a game.  If he doesn't I would be disappointed.  That wasn't a basketball play or even an attempt to mask a hit as one.

Just like Reggie said during the game it wasn't a punch but you can't have guys running around slapping each other to get away with it.

Anthony Johnson is in trouble.

Re: Alston
« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2009, 01:18:09 AM »

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After all the ish breaking out in the Lakers game I would think the NBA will be sending a message now and that this will def be a suspension

Re: Alston
« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2009, 01:35:57 AM »

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no way he doesn't get 1 game for this...pretty similar to howard's elbow...no play on the ball whatsoever, just clearly going after another player's head.

except an elbow is an intent to injure and a slap is simply disrespecting. that is a HUGE difference. alston gets fined. there is a radical difference between posturing toughness and intending to injure somebody. nobody goes for stitches after a slap. in my mind alston gets fined, no suspension. basically its excessive taunting.

and seems like in 2009 its time to move beyond "thug" and "punk" labeling.

Re: Alston
« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2009, 01:38:49 AM »

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no way he doesn't get 1 game for this...pretty similar to howard's elbow...no play on the ball whatsoever, just clearly going after another player's head.

except an elbow is an intent to injure and a slap is simply disrespecting. that is a HUGE difference. alston gets fined. there is a radical difference between posturing toughness and intending to injure somebody. nobody goes for stitches after a slap. in my mind alston gets fined, no suspension. basically its excessive taunting.

and seems like in 2009 its time to move beyond "thug" and "punk" labeling.
So are you willing to do a little experiment: you turn your back to me, and I check whether I can slap you hard enough to injure you. After all, if this is only disrespect, you risk nothing, right?

I thought so.
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Re: Alston
« Reply #74 on: May 07, 2009, 01:39:18 AM »

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Once saw Alston closed fist punch David Wesley below the belt with a ref about 5 feet away--it was called and strong man Wesley just laughed at him --Rafer is a dirty player and a would be thug but just too little --  His history should play a part in Stu's decision

i fundamentally disagree with that last statement. plays should be viewed on their own. if it is off the court issues then yes past decisions can be a reality but on the court you play by the same rules as everybody.

example: artest tonight. artest gets elbowed in the throat by kobe and based on past actions is called for a foul. what? absurd. then he jaws at kobe, and you can tell he is saying you threw an elbow at my throat, man up and own it. and what happens? foul stands on artest, nothing on kobe and artest is thrown out. all for being elbowed in the throat. that is letting past behavior distort your view of what happened in front of your eyes. so that is my point