Dwight Howard's uncalled goaltending

[FLCeltsFan]

Didn't you get the memo?

Howard doesn't goaltend and doesn't commit 3-second violations. That's it.

Because he is Superman, he isn't actually in the painted area.  He is hovering slightly above the floor so can't be called for 3 seconds. 

Also, no denying that Howard throws elbows.  He has injured 5 of his own teammates with them.  Most recently, Courtney Lee who still isn't back.  He throws them indiscriminantly ...

[crownsy]

Didn't you get the memo?

Howard doesn't goaltend and doesn't commit 3-second violations. That's it.

Because he is Superman, he isn't actually in the painted area.  He is hovering slightly above the floor so can't be called for 3 seconds. 

Also, no denying that Howard throws elbows.  He has injured 5 of his own teammates with them.  Most recently, Courtney Lee who still isn't back.  He throws them indiscriminantly ...

yea, i loved that the TNT crew was laughing about how he hits so many people with elbows he's coined the term "the people's elbow"

Hey D-12, i like you, but do you ever have an original thought in your head?

[kheeko]

lol this thread reminds me of my "did you see the dirty play from kobe on yao" thread, afterall it may just be us seeing through our green glasses 

[Scalablob990]

Sorry if this has been addressed.  It is the end of semester and I'm averaging grades for nine classes.  Was it just me, or were two of Superman's blocks clear uncalled goaltends??  They sure called those on Patrick Ewing in the playoffs years ago!!  Why does Dwight get by with them now?  Was there a rule change that I missed that allows you to now block shots on their way down???

Smitty77

I'm in the same boat you are, but I forgot how to count, 2 sleepless nights back. 

[Hoops]

There was one he had I beleive on rondo. The ball clearly hit its apex, but of course no call.

I'm sorry to pick on you, but I see this logic all the time and I don't understand it. Why do people use the word "clearly" when clearly the situation isn't clear. Did I just make myself clear? Using your example above, if it was so clear that the ball hit its apex, then why wasn't the call made? Do you really think the ref saw it and said to himself, "Wow, that ball is clearly at its apex. You know what, that's Dwight Howard - I'm not going to call it"?? I know there are some conspiracy theorists out there, but I'm sorry, I don't buy it.

The much more likely scenario is that it wasn't clear whether the ball was at its apex. In the case where it's not clear, the call could go either way. Maybe there is a bias towards Howard that allows the ref to give Howard the benefit of the doubt on an unclear play. I'd buy that. But I don't buy outright defiance of the rules.

So, my point is this: please don't refer to something being clear when clearly it's not.

[angryguy77]

There was one he had I beleive on rondo. The ball clearly hit its apex, but of course no call.

I'm sorry to pick on you, but I see this logic all the time and I don't understand it. Why do people use the word "clearly" when clearly the situation isn't clear. Did I just make myself clear? Using your example above, if it was so clear that the ball hit its apex, then why wasn't the call made? Do you really think the ref saw it and said to himself, "Wow, that ball is clearly at its apex. You know what, that's Dwight Howard - I'm not going to call it"?? I know there are some conspiracy theorists out there, but I'm sorry, I don't buy it.

The much more likely scenario is that it wasn't clear whether the ball was at its apex. In the case where it's not clear, the call could go either way. Maybe there is a bias towards Howard that allows the ref to give Howard the benefit of the doubt on an unclear play. I'd buy that. But I don't buy outright defiance of the rules.

So, my point is this: please don't refer to something being clear when clearly it's not.

Well I saw the replay and when a ball stops going up and it then heads on a straight line before going down towards the rim, I would say CLEARLY the apex had be reached. So to answer you, yes it was CLEARLY a goal tend. As to it being a blown call or treatment, I will go with the star treatment.
 
And to you wondering if refs dont call certain players because of who they are, then  you obviously dont watch much nba. If you believe that noncalls are just the refs giving the benefite of the doubt, then I would love to know what the color of the sky is on your planet.  I suppose you have the same response to some on here wondering how on earth Lebron went 5 straight games w/o a foul. But they just missed those because they just missed them right? the refs would never do anything in defiance of the rules, why they are choir boys. In fact they are so pure not one of them has ever gambled.....oh wait....Ok so one of them has, but the rest are certainly above reproach. thank you for enlightening me, all this time I was blinded and thinking the Jordan rules existed. For years of watching this game and seeing blatant 3-4 steps at times by star players not get called and lesser ones get called, I come to find out that my eyes betray me. Thank you and I appreciate you mentorship.

[pearljammer10]

I don't care who it is but anyone who tries to tell me that if they have Dwight Howards leaping ability they wouldnt punish the ball thirteen rows into the stands is just a plain liar. The celtics may have gotten a 3 of the next play, but the Magic are up one so he was doing something right.

[angryguy77]

I don't care who it is but anyone who tries to tell me that if they have Dwight Howards leaping ability they wouldnt punish the ball thirteen rows into the stands is just a plain liar. The celtics may have gotten a 3 of the next play, but the Magic are up one so he was doing something right.

Once every so often I would murder it, but not every chance I get. When the stakes are high you shouldn't be trying to show off like that, leave it on the playground.

[cornbreadsmart]

i know how to stop dwight. fill him in that like 6 other religions BEFORE christianity also had a messiah born of a virgin. he'd put up a goose egg.

[Fafnir]

i know how to stop dwight. fill him in that like 6 other religions BEFORE christianity also had a messiah born of a virgin. he'd put up a goose egg.

Because mocking some one's religion is a good tactic to win a basketball game!

Come on....

[cdif911]

bumping my idea - can you block a dunk, isn't that goaltending?

also can you block a hook shot like Perk's it starts at the top of the trajectory and comes down....

[cdif911]

i know how to stop dwight. fill him in that like 6 other religions BEFORE christianity also had a messiah born of a virgin. he'd put up a goose egg.

Because mocking some one's religion is a good tactic to win a basketball game!

Come on....

I thought he was mocking goose eggs... I think if we throw goose eggs at him, and cut off an arm or two, we may be on to something

[angryguy77]

i know how to stop dwight. fill him in that like 6 other religions BEFORE christianity also had a messiah born of a virgin. he'd put up a goose egg.

Was that relly necessary. Leave the trolling behavior to actual trolls

[kozlodoev]

Also, no denying that Howard throws elbows.  He has injured 5 of his own teammates with them.  Most recently, Courtney Lee who still isn't back.  He throws them indiscriminantly ...

While what happens during the game is a moot issue, since most guys push and shove to an extend, Howard has a history of retaliating after a whistle which everyone seems to ignore.

People are forgetting the Magic-Celtics games two seasons ago, when he was routinely pushing people back after the referees had blown the whistle.

Then there was this game where he actually threw a punch at Rondo and was lucky not to connect.

I have no recollection of him getting hit with any sort of techs on those plays. I was a little surprised, but quite happy to see the league actually do something when he tried to elbow another player in the head.

[kozlodoev]

bumping my idea - can you block a dunk, isn't that goaltending?

also can you block a hook shot like Perk's it starts at the top of the trajectory and comes down....

I don't think the goaltending rule applies while the ball is still in contact with the hand(s) of the offensive player.