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Offline KG Living Legend

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 Enough Money to offer Big bad Ben Gordon to our team. Just a one or two year contract, Ballpark money to what he could get per year in Chicago, and then tell him once he wins a championship he can Leave and get His Megabucks. With the economy down just wait like a year or two and get your ring now.

 So come on guys could are Super-Rich Owners pull this off.

 Don't tell me they cant there worth hundreds of Millions of Dollars. And he would be a perfect fit for Boston. Not a natural Starter, although he could. Not Ideal Height to defend other two guards. But wow can he fill it up.

 We would win, bar none the next two years, if he was with us and everyone is healthy. He's exactly what are team needs.
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Believe it or not, but not every player is motivated by championships.  And not many players in their prime would be willing to sacrifice $$$ for chance at winning one.  He also wouldn't be a starter on the Celtics.

He is an excellent, but streaky shooter and is nonexistent on the defensive end.  He made some big shots, but still failed to shoot above 40% for the series.  He's very good, but don't overrate him.  He is also undersized and size will be our biggest need going into the off-season.

I'd love to see him in green (not on St. Patty's day), but we have bigger needs than an undersized 2 guard and I don't think he'd be willing to come off the bench or take a pay cut.

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Not a big fan whatsoever.  Yes he had an excellent scoring series but he's one-dimensional and undersized.  Some dumb team is going to overpay for him this summer.  I say the wise move for Chicago would be to let him walk- move Salmons to the 2 and Deng is your starting 3.  I don't want to face that team.  I'd much prefer if Gordon keeps his role on that team.

As for coming to the Celts this is the same guy who turned down 10 or 11 million dollars a year last summer and signed a short contract.  That wasn't enough for him per year.

I think he's overrated and he's basically a cross between Jamal Crawford and John Starks.
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Since we are over the cap, the most we could offer him is the MLE.  He's def. going to get bigger offers than that.  Plus, if we want to resign Big Baby, most(if not all) of our MLE money will go to his contract.

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Chicago can keep its crotch-grabber.

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Re: Salary Cap Experts, is there anyway possible we could pony up
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He's repeatedly turned down a 5 year, $50 million contract from Chicago, and said he wants something like the 6 year, $71 million deal that Luol Deng got.  The most we can offer is going to be roughly $5 million - $5.5 million (the MLE).

Luol Deng made $9,385,000 in the first year of his new deal.  Let's assume Gordon agrees to a deal for $9 million.  Normally, we'd have to send out contracts within 25% of that amount, plus $100k.  That means we'd need to send salaries between $7,120,000 million and $11,350,000 to Chicago.  In this case, though, it's substantially more complicated than that, due to Base Year Compensation rules.  See here.  If I'm doing my math right, under BYC rules we'd have to trade players making somewhere between $7.12 million and $8.1 million (125% + $100k of Gordon's previous salary) to make the trade work for both Chicago and Boston.

Technically, we could pull something like that off, by offering Scal + Tony + Giddens + Walker (combined salaries of $7,356,131).  I'm not sure, though, that that deal would be in the best interests of either team.

(Wow... *way* too much work went into answering that question.  ;))

 

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I'm not at all sure we should be emptying our coffers of what little trade assets we have for him, frankly.
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I'd rather have Eddie.
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I've got a feeling Gordon is going to be a Knick at the end of the offseason. He fits their style to a tee: all offense, little D and uptempo. The Knicks need to start adding some guns like that if they want to entice players to give them a serious look in '10.

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I'd rather have Eddie.

Well, if I could just choose between the two, I'd take Gordon.

But value-wise, I'd take Eddie in a heartbeat.

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We've got other priorities, despite Gordon's ability to heat up.

We need a competent backup at the 3 desperately.
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The chance of this happening is very close to zero, and the money could be better used on other players.

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technically, this can not be done.  this type of deal where the player signs on the cheap and is promised a better deal later is what got the t-wolves in trouble with joe smith.

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I've got a feeling Gordon is going to be a Knick at the end of the offseason. He fits their style to a tee: all offense, little D and uptempo. The Knicks need to start adding some guns like that if they want to entice players to give them a serious look in '10.

Hmmm, interesting idea.  Normally, I would agree with you, but keep in mind they will need to extend Lee and Robinson this offseason.  My guess after each gets their multi-year extension (I am guessing around $8M/yr for each), the Knicks will have about $24M left under the cap in 2010.  They will probably want to preserve much of that, but we'll see.
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