The controversial jump in

[Weird Facts]

I'd really like to see the NBA make a new rule this off-season.
After seeing Ben Gordon jump into Ray Allen & Tony Allen over & over again
I just think something needs to be put in.

I'm not going to be super bias here, I realize Paul Pierce does the same thing, I also don't think his jump ins are as ridiculous as Gordon's.

I'm just tired of watching it, it should either be offensive or a no-call.

This may sound a bit strange but this is the way I usually judge whether a rule in the NBA is good or bad.

If you we're playing a pick-up game and your opponent jumped straight into you every time he shot and called a foul. 

What would your eventual reaction to this be?

I wouldn't really enjoy playing against a guy like that,
I would think he was being cheap.


What do you guys think?

GO C'S!

[bruinsandceltics]

I know you are talking about Gordon jumping in TA on the tying 3 in OT. And that wasn't the case. It was TA being an idiot and challenging a guy on a shot he had no chance of making.

Now that being said, he was also out of bounds.

[Weird Facts]

You know wrong,

I was certainly not referring to that, that was idiotic on TA's part.
Gordon did it consistently through-out the entire game.
There was one that there was a no call on that he banked in.

The one you are referring to however, was not one that I was unhappy with

[Rondo_is_better]

It doesn't bother me too much--what does get to me is that there isn't any consistency to the call.

Example 1: Derek Fisher plowing into Brent Barry. No Call.

Example 2: A Detroit defender crashing into Pierce. Offensive, and the call that solidified my hate for Bennett Salvatore.

Example 3: All the other times when its called a defensive foul, like last night for Pierce. He did it at one point and got 2 shots out of it.


Make up your mind! GOD!

Oh, and I don't think Gordon jumped in that much last night. The most crucial foul on Tony in OT was a foul--he hit him.

[Weird Facts]

Well,

perhaps I was watching a different game than you guys, or I just drank too much kool aid =0)

But perhaps we can watch him closer and game 6 and re-visit this topic then!

Thanks guys!

[Chris]

I'm not going to be super bias here, I realize Paul Pierce does the same thing, I also don't think his jump ins are as ridiculous as Gordon's.

No offense, but you are clearly looking through Green glasses.  Pierce is absolutely blatant about that move, and every bit as bad as Gordon.

[DanMan08]

Pierce gets rediculous continuations on it too, cause he leans it, takes the contact, resets himself, then shoots.  Where other guys jump forward into the contact and shoot in 1 continuous motion. 

I just have a problem when the Defender jumps straight up and gets called for it, no way thats a foul, most commonly when the little guards jump into the big men and create the contact in the lane.

[fairweatherfan]

Gordon's more guilty of falling down after every release than jumping into guys, in my opinion.  He gets away with that enough to drive me nuts, though.

[DanMan08]

I dont know, pierce acting like he got hit by a bus everytime a little guard touches him off a screen could be classified just as bad. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

There's one big difference of in what Pierce usually does and on what Gordon is doing to us. Pierce uses pump/head fakes to get people in the air, and does his trick to create contact. Gordon simply distorts his body from the get go throwing his body around with his legs and all.

[BigAlTheFuture]

There's one big difference of in what Pierce usually does and on what Gordon is doing to us. Pierce uses pump/head fakes to get people in the air, and does his trick to create contact. Gordon simply distorts his body from the get go throwing his body around with his legs and all.

I agree. I think when Pierce does it, the defender jumps and bumps into him. When Gordon does it, he jumps into the defender.

[BudweiserCeltic]

In all, Pierce makes people pay for bad defense. Gordon gets bailed out from good defense.

[bdm860]

Do we really need to debate who's the worse offender, the OP admitted both Gordon and Pierce do it.

I hate the jump in move too (of course it's great when Pierce get's away with it  )

At first thought I would think if an offensive player initiates conduct then it should be an offensive foul, but when I think about it more I think it would be kinda of ridiculous to call an offensive foul on a player shooting a 3 just for leaning in.  So I think if an offensive player initiates conduct then it should just be a no call, except when he plows over a stationary defender, then it would be offensive.  I got to imagine the make % on the shot attempt that draws the foul is pretty low (unless you're James Jones), just make it a no call and this problem would go away pretty quick.

My vote, make it a no call.

[BASS_THUMPER]

reggie miller was a pro at that

he would take a shot and kick the defender make contact and the ref would send miller to the free line

i'm glad all dat floppin is at an all time low

soon this style of play will too

[MBz]

Do we really need to debate who's the worse offender, the OP admitted both Gordon and Pierce do it.

I hate the jump in move too (of course it's great when Pierce get's away with it  )

At first thought I would think if an offensive player initiates conduct then it should be an offensive foul, but when I think about it more I think it would be kinda of ridiculous to call an offensive foul on a player shooting a 3 just for leaning in.  So I think if an offensive player initiates conduct then it should just be a no call, except when he plows over a stationary defender, then it would be offensive.  I got to imagine the make % on the shot attempt that draws the foul is pretty low (unless you're James Jones), just make it a no call and this problem would go away pretty quick.

My vote, make it a no call.

I think it should be a no-call as well.  This is one reason why I think the college officials do a better job then NBA officials.  That is never called at the college level.