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Re: Glen Davis Ceiling?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2009, 05:02:10 PM »

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This is only his second year. Lets say in 3-4 years, how good can he become? Can he be a 15/8 or 20/9 guy and a legit starter? Fill me in on your expectations for Glenn BB Davis.

A rich man's Brandon Hunter.  8 points and 5 rebounds a game off the bench.  A journeyman who stays in the league for more than a couple years and mildly succeeds as long as he's playing for a team that gets him wide open layup and jump shot attempts.

Brandon Hunter??  I guess they have the same body type but Brandon Hunter could not hit the broad side of a barn with a tennis ball.  Theyre different players.  Hunter couldnt shoot to save his life but was a beast on the boards at times.  Big Babys developed a pretty wet jumpshot that we can use to space the floor, the only thing left to be desired in Babys game(aside from becoming a post presence) is he could probably grab more rebounds.  Other than their body type I dont see a similarity.

A player I could see big baby being similar to is Udonis Haslem.  Accomplishing what Haslem has I think is Glen Davis ceiling.  Haslem plays good defense, is energetic, rebounds well, and can knock down that mid range jumper that Davis does.  Obviously their body types are miles apart as Haslem is much more slender, however theyre both undersized power forwards and I think Haslem has made the most out of his strengths as a player.
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Re: Glen Davis Ceiling?
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2009, 05:20:37 PM »

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Celtics fan,

This is only his second year. Lets say in 3-4 years, how good can he become? Can he be a 15/8 or 20/9 guy and a legit starter? Fill me in on your expectations for Glenn BB Davis.

A rich man's Brandon Hunter.  8 points and 5 rebounds a game off the bench.  A journeyman who stays in the league for more than a couple years and mildly succeeds as long as he's playing for a team that gets him wide open layup and jump shot attempts.

Brandon Hunter??  I guess they have the same body type but Brandon Hunter could not hit the broad side of a barn with a tennis ball.  Theyre different players.  Hunter couldnt shoot to save his life but was a beast on the boards at times.  Big Babys developed a pretty wet jumpshot that we can use to space the floor, the only thing left to be desired in Babys game(aside from becoming a post presence) is he could probably grab more rebounds.  Other than their body type I dont see a similarity.

A player I could see big baby being similar to is Udonis Haslem.  Accomplishing what Haslem has I think is Glen Davis ceiling.  Haslem plays good defense, is energetic, rebounds well, and can knock down that mid range jumper that Davis does.  Obviously their body types are miles apart as Haslem is much more slender, however theyre both undersized power forwards and I think Haslem has made the most out of his strengths as a player.

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Re: Glen Davis Ceiling?
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2009, 05:27:06 PM »

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I don't know about his "cieling", but I see Davis having a career something like Kenny Thomas.  He is going to have some good years as a role player, a few good years as more of a featured player on a lesser team, and at some point he is going to fade really fast. 

I think he will have a few years where he is averaging 15 and 8, but overall for his career, I think he will be a 9 and 5 guy.

Re: Glen Davis Ceiling?
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2009, 05:28:51 PM »

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He's brushing his head against it as we speak...

Re: Glen Davis Ceiling?
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2009, 05:36:40 PM »

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He's a very unique player. He's big but quick. He can bang but he can shoot. He can really move but can't jump. His ceiling will depend on how much he works and what team he ends up with next year. ( Hopefully us.) I think if somebody overpays him it will retard his growth. Baby plays best with a chip on his shoulder.  I think him sliding to the second round was the best thing that could have happened to him. I hope no one pays him at the end of this year and he has to sign a cheap one year with us. That would be some good motivation
 for BB.

Re: Glen Davis Ceiling?
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2009, 05:41:28 PM »

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If, and it's a big "IF", Davis can duplicate what Perkins was able to do with his body. In other words, Big Baby becomes as cut as Perkins and drops about 20-25 in the process...I think it would be unwise to put a ceiling on him. If he stays with basically the same body as now, I agree he may be brushing his head on his celing now.

The other three factors I like about him that give him a half shot at more than we are seeing now?

1. He plays with a lot of heart and desire. The tears he shead when KG got on the team, that's passion. I don't like to under rate that.
2. He likes the limelight. That's something that helps players elevate when you think they can't.

Combine those two things with a 275 and cut frame...open ceiling.

The weight is the critical question. IMHO

  

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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2009, 05:47:16 PM »

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he played below his potential in college so he dropped, imagine if he tried in college? he could have been a first round pick.

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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2009, 05:57:46 PM »

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he played below his potential in college so he dropped, imagine if he tried in college? he could have been a first round pick.

He played below his potential because he was hurt. ::)  I believe he was promised a first round selection by Detroit, but they snubbed him.  And if he had gone in the 1st round, we wouldn't have him right now.  Luck us. :D
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Re: Glen Davis Ceiling?
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2009, 06:08:31 PM »

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It's hard to say.  I used to think "Robert Traylor" but BBD is better. The skill that puts BBD ahead of guys like Traylor, or Brandon Hunter is is passing, first of all, and then his handle.  BBD can bring it up the floor angainst any power forward in the league, and that's a useful skill by itself.

Davis still does not know how to use his wide body inside. If he learns that, he could be a ten-year pro: starter on a bad team, 6th or 7th man on a good team.

Re: Glen Davis Ceiling?
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2009, 06:25:12 PM »

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How't this  - he's somewhere between a rich man's Brandon Hunter and a poor man's Charles Barkley (that's Barkley, not Bradley).

I think it's unfair to say any second year man has hit his ceiling.  As polished as Tim Duncan (or Larry Bird for that matter) was coming out of 4 years of college, it would have been unfair to say he had hit his ceiling in year 2 (NBA experience matters).  Baby is getting his first taste of consistent starter minutes and he's responded quite well. That has to be a point in favor of some growth potential.  I also like how he seems to respond to pressure -- he's hit a few clutch free throws in recent games, and was a strong defensive rebounder in the OTs in game 4 (he took it up a notch in the prime time).

I also like that his weight issues will likely scare folks away from overpaying or giving a lengthy contract this off-season.  Put's us in decent position to keep Powe and Baby which I'd like to see happen.