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Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 08:00:02 AM »

Offline KungPoweChicken

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Marbury is taking away time from Tony Allen. I would much rather have Tony Allen in the game with Eddy House running the point. TA is being under used on this team, and Marbury has done nothing thus far with his playing time. Sit Marbury down and play TA.

Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2009, 08:04:40 AM »

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if Stephon just played his game and went out there trying to get the best statistics possible he's be nasty. Marbury is a better scorer than everyone he's playing with, sometimes i wish he'd just be more selfish.

Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2009, 08:14:52 AM »

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Marbury looks bad because House isn't knocking down the open shots he is getting him.  Even when Marbury wasn't scoring, we liked what he was doing because he was making House better.  But for some reason House isn't knocking down the shots, therefore, Marbury isn't getting the assists and it looks like he's doing nothing.  Eddie needs to knock down the shots Marbury gets for him.  I realize I'm blaming Eddie, but the House/Marbury combo was the reason they both looked good and if Eddie doesn't knock down the shots, they both look bad.
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Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2009, 08:26:23 AM »

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I have hated marbury forever....but since he's on the team I try to overlook his personality and "team" attitude.  I think he's done ok, some good some bad.  For this series I really think Pruitt's defensive speed/work would help us more with rondo needs a breather.  Marbury can't keep up with rose or kirk henrich(?).  I am surprised ta has gotten some minutes on ben gordon but also feel that for this series pruitt should be getting backup pg time.
Of course that would mean that the attitude that roars would be ripped and not play hard again.

Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2009, 08:50:31 AM »

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I hate him because he can't play.  Every time he goes into the game he stinks it up and the other team goes on a run.  Doug Collins ripped him pretty well last night and Collins was being kind.

I'd had enough of Marbury a month ago.  He's so bad it's embarrassing. If the Celtics expect to beat anyone, TA and Pruitt have to play and Marbury has to sit. It's especially idiotic to bring Marbury in at sg, where he can't shoot and can't defend anyone.

The 2nd unit backcourt should be a TA, Pruitt, House rotation.

Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2009, 08:56:50 AM »

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I think that Steph can still contribute if he stops thinking and gets aggressive.  That said, he has to hit the pull-up jumper since when small guards penetrate against Da Bulls they get swallowed up and blocked.

I agree that House has to work in tandem with Steph.  so far Eddie has lacked his usual energy and to the Bulls' credit they have stayed home on him and not helped.


Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2009, 09:13:55 AM »

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I hate him because he can't play.  Every time he goes into the game he stinks it up and the other team goes on a run.  Doug Collins ripped him pretty well last night and Collins was being kind.

I'd had enough of Marbury a month ago.  He's so bad it's embarrassing. If the Celtics expect to beat anyone, TA and Pruitt have to play and Marbury has to sit. It's especially idiotic to bring Marbury in at sg, where he can't shoot and can't defend anyone.

The 2nd unit backcourt should be a TA, Pruitt, House rotation.

Pruitt and TA are not going to get many minutes at all. Them both shouldn't see any playing time unless it's a blowout or foul trouble needs them come in.

Marbury is doing alright everybody needs to lay off him. It won't help benching him because House will be next up to play PG(Pruitt isn't gonna play over House). Then we lose what he provides us playing at SG. I rather have a established point guard with Marbury to come in then a inexperienced Pruitt and bad ball handler in Tony Allen.

I do not understand this attack on him when he isn't expected to play like a all star. Everybody just needs to accept he goes in to let Rondo have some rest. Other then that we don't need to put in any other guards besides House and Marbury. Maybe Tony Allen for defensive reasons only.

Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2009, 09:39:19 AM »

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The 2nd unit backcourt should be a TA, Pruitt, House rotation.


You do know that it's too late to tank for a draft pick right?

Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2009, 09:45:22 AM »

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House is a huge liability defensively against any of Chicago's guards.  Marbury is the best option...but expecting him to be the all star he was -- given what's happened to him over the past year -- is just unrealistic.

I can't see him playing much of a role in this series beyond spelling Rondo and shagging Rose or Gordon for a few minutes because:

A. Doesn't look like Doc can go small given Chicago's length and athleticism
B. Ray and Eddie both need to play.

My hope is that bringing him in pays off later in the playoffs -- only problem is there may well not be a 'later in the playoffs' given their lack of bodies up front.


Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2009, 09:50:40 AM »

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TA came in for game 1 and in 8 minutes he did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! He didn't play good defense, he missed the only shot he took which was a bad one, he didn't create anything. He is not the answer. Face it. TA can only be a decent contributor if he is starting. 80% of the time when he comes off the bench he is so concerned about scoring that he throws the team game out the window. He can't play within the flow of the offense and make the team better. Marbury on the other hand has been playing almost TOO unselfishly out there. He is only concerned about passing the ball to the open guy, he is playing hard nosed defense and giving great energy and effort. He also gives the team the ability to stretch the defense with the ability to hit the outside shot. He isn't hitting them at the clip we would like however it is getting better.

TA may arguably need to get some run at the 2, however if he can't control himself on the offensive end it takes away from his ability to help us on the defensive side.

Marbury is giving us exactly what we need right now and that is a PG who is playing within himself and thinking about defense and team movement. If his shot continues to improve he will be even better.

Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2009, 09:51:08 AM »

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if Stephon just played his game and went out there trying to get the best statistics possible he's be nasty. Marbury is a better scorer than everyone he's playing with, sometimes i wish he'd just be more selfish.

Who would have ever thought this would have been said about Marbury?

i just got a good laugh.

Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2009, 10:07:50 AM »

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if Stephon just played his game and went out there trying to get the best statistics possible he's be nasty. Marbury is a better scorer than everyone he's playing with, sometimes i wish he'd just be more selfish.
How do you define "better scorer?"  Certainly not by shooting percentage.  His jumper is average at best and he doesn't get all the way to the rim anymore- he usually gets his shot blocked when he attempts a layup.

Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2009, 10:22:05 AM »

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The only thing I hate about Stephon Marbury is that his head is tattooed. Beyond that I'm okay with him. Cassell put up some stinkers too. And he wasn't even human.

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Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2009, 10:47:41 AM »

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Marbury has been ok as a backup point guard.  He has played with great effort and unselfishness.  But the fact is that the last 3 years weren't an illusion- he's not an above average nba point guard anymore.  But as far as his effort and style of play, I'm totally satisfied that he is playing the best he can.

I think I am with moiso on this one. So I awarded a Tommy to moiso. Stephon is a good backup PG at this point in his career and would welcome him back for a backup PG wage (couple of million, maybe). Really, Doc has lost confidence in the bench when Chicago busted them in the 2nd qtr last night. That is a MAJOR CONCERN of mine going forward. If the Celtics go on to lose this series, that 2nd qtr stint by the bench last night probably told the tale.
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Re: What's with all the hate on Stephon Marbury?
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2009, 11:03:38 AM »

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Yeah, what moiso said. The expectations about Marbury around here - some people where talking about an "All-Star" caliber player - were just wrong. He's just a backup at this point of his career, not worthy of so many posts in the frontpage. He can't get to the rim at will any more and his jump-shot is just passable, so he's playing at a decent level. Hopefully he can have a couple of big games till the end of the season.

Against bigger opponent backcourts, I'd rather see House and Tony Allen playing more minutes and Marbury being used as a situational backup.