Mark Warkentien = Executive of the year

[Who]

I thought the Camby trade was an excellent move by Denver, and a terrible move by the Clippers.

The McDyess buyout was a very bad decision though. They rushed that situation. Dice has a lot of history with the Nuggets, they should have waited and tried to cajole him into playing for them once again. Billups could have helped with that. If they had Dice, they'd be in a much better position right now.

[Chris]

I'm with you on Anderson - very overrated as a defensive player.  Get's most of his blocks coming from the weak side.  Rebounds well, but more from his leaping ability than his boxing out/positioning.  Don't get me wrong, I like him, and wouldn't mind having him be a Celtic, but he should never win defensive player of the year unless it's based exclusively on the box score.

I dont see how this can be anyone's assessment of Anderson and the think he's not camby-lite for 9 million less a year.

I mean, if you replaced the words Anderson with camby in the above, you've written the marcus camby scouting report. horrid on the ball defender, blocks shots as help only, ect, ect.

Camby is a MUCH better on the ball defender than Andersen, is a much better position defender, is a much better rebounder, and thats not even getting into the offense.  In general, he is just a much better (and smarter) basketball player.

Now, if you wanted to say that Andersen was a poor man's Dalembert, you would have an argument.  But Camby is not even close to the same player.

how much is anderson costing them Vs. camby who has clearly lost a step though chris? anderson provides them tons more flex for the future, which was my entire point against those saying "they lost camby" so what?

this isn't camby circa 2002 were talking about.

your not going to convince me that marcus camby, as currently constituted, would give them a chance in hell of beating the lakers front court if they had held onto him and crippled thier cap.

anderson, as i said, does a bit of everything camby does (to a career level this year i might add) for a tenth the cost. thats a massive steal for them, and only helps thier future prospects. They got the second best record in the west with the kid coming off the bench, so they improved thier team and saved a 10 million dollar corpse off the books.

mabey camby 5 years ago would have made the difference, but as he is now, no way. they would lose to the lakers with or without him, so why pay ten times as much for better production when you can get something like it for near the vet min and set themselves up to resign/ add pieces in the future to what appears to be a pretty solid western contender?

But how does the money saved give them more flexibility, other than below the luxury tax (which I refuse to reward a GM for)?  Camby's contract will come off the books after next season, and they will be well over the cap this summer even without Camby.

When a team is as close to being a contender as the Nuggets are, I can't give them points for downgrading a position, just to save some cash, that likely won't be used to help the team anyways.

As far as Camby vs. Andersen, we will just have to agree to disagree.  I think Camby is still one of the top 4-5 best defensive big men in the league, and I think Andersen would be lucky to be in the top 50.  Stats aren't everything.

[crownsy]

I'm with you on Anderson - very overrated as a defensive player.  Get's most of his blocks coming from the weak side.  Rebounds well, but more from his leaping ability than his boxing out/positioning.  Don't get me wrong, I like him, and wouldn't mind having him be a Celtic, but he should never win defensive player of the year unless it's based exclusively on the box score.

I dont see how this can be anyone's assessment of Anderson and the think he's not camby-lite for 9 million less a year.

I mean, if you replaced the words Anderson with camby in the above, you've written the marcus camby scouting report. horrid on the ball defender, blocks shots as help only, ect, ect.

Camby is a MUCH better on the ball defender than Andersen, is a much better position defender, is a much better rebounder, and thats not even getting into the offense.  In general, he is just a much better (and smarter) basketball player.

Now, if you wanted to say that Andersen was a poor man's Dalembert, you would have an argument.  But Camby is not even close to the same player.

how much is anderson costing them Vs. camby who has clearly lost a step though chris? anderson provides them tons more flex for the future, which was my entire point against those saying "they lost camby" so what?

this isn't camby circa 2002 were talking about.

your not going to convince me that marcus camby, as currently constituted, would give them a chance in hell of beating the lakers front court if they had held onto him and crippled thier cap.

anderson, as i said, does a bit of everything camby does (to a career level this year i might add) for a tenth the cost. thats a massive steal for them, and only helps thier future prospects. They got the second best record in the west with the kid coming off the bench, so they improved thier team and saved a 10 million dollar corpse off the books.

mabey camby 5 years ago would have made the difference, but as he is now, no way. they would lose to the lakers with or without him, so why pay ten times as much for better production when you can get something like it for near the vet min and set themselves up to resign/ add pieces in the future to what appears to be a pretty solid western contender?

But how does the money saved give them more flexibility, other than below the luxury tax (which I refuse to reward a GM for)?  Camby's contract will come off the books after next season, and they will be well over the cap this summer even without Camby.

When a team is as close to being a contender as the Nuggets are, I can't give them points for downgrading a position, just to save some cash, that likely won't be used to help the team anyways.

As far as Camby vs. Andersen, we will just have to agree to disagree.  I think Camby is still one of the top 4-5 best defensive big men in the league, and I think Andersen would be lucky to be in the top 50.  Stats aren't everything.

i guess we will have to agree to disagree, becaus eto me "stats aren't everything" hurts marcus's case, it doesn't help it.

He's been trading on inflated block numbers for years.

[JSD]

Who, Denver's future is well in tact. Melo is 24 years old and as long as he's signed up they have a promising now and future. In 2011 they have Kenyon Martins expiring contract as an asset. Who knows what that can land.

[hoopaddict08]

If Mark Warkentien had got Antonio Mcdyess to stay with Denver after the trade was made, there is doubt I would consider him the executive of the year. Fact is, Mcdyess left, and Denver still doesn't have the right pieces to make them a true contender this year. If they fail to add those pieces this offseason, than that trade isn't nearly as good for Denver as most people would insist. Detroit on the other hand, can now lay out a new solid foundation this offseason for their franchise. Denver might surprise me, and get something big done, but that trade made more sense to Detroit than it did for Denver.

I don't see Denver winning a championship within the next two seasons, and is Carmelo Anthony going to stick around until than? His contract expires in the 2011 offseason, so it's really up to him.