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5 players i'd love to see in green. (realistic)
« on: April 04, 2009, 07:43:13 PM »

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Ben Gordon- 6-2 Shooting Guard. Still young. Up for FA this offseason. another UCONN 2Guard (they seem to find all the good ones), excellent shooter, can create his own shot, good penetrator.


Career- 18.4 PPG, .437 FG%, .414 3PT%
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Rashard Lewis- 6-10 Forward, has developed into an excellent 3pt shooter over his career. 10 year vet. Size can create HUGE matchup problems on defense. skilled scorer.


Career- 16.9 PPG, .458 FG%, .392 3PT%


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Delonte West- 6-3 Guard, Obviously is already a former Celtic but i want him back. Can play the one or the 2. Has shown great improvement in shooting percentage while in Cleveland. Scrapper, he will do what he has to do make a play. In my opinion would be the perfect replacement for the Eddie House role (not as good a shooter, but a better ball handler)

Career- 10.2 PPG, .446 FG%, .375 3PT%

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Charlie Villanueva- 6-11 Forward/Center. Can potentially play 3 positions. Good Scorer, Good Passer, Excellent on the fast break. Can stretch the floor becuase of decent outside shooting. Could be a star, just needs more intensity.

Career- 13.4 PPG, .452 FG%, .329 3PT% (.351 in '09)

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Ryan Gomes- 6-7 Forward. Another case of former Celtic love. Stong at the quick forward, fast at the power forward. Improved his outside and free throw shooting. Good rebounder for a 3, average as a 4. Has developed a nice NBA game.

Career- 11.6 PPG, .457 FG%, .360 3PT% (.380 in '09)




Re: 5 players i'd love to see in green. (realistic)
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 08:00:34 PM »

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Geez... we have very different tastes when it comes to basketball players.

Gordon is an extremely undersized shooting-guard. A not very efficient volume scorer who takes jump-shots and can be a tremendous defensive liability.

Gomes is an hard-working guy without a NBA position: can't defend 3s or 4s.

Villanueva is one of those players than can drive you crazy. He's extremely inconsistent, lacks focus, doesn't defend. Poor man's Troy Murphy.

Rashard Lewis is obviously a good player and a very good jump-shooting big, but an overpaid one. He's, at best, average defensively and he's not a good shot-creator.

West, yes, I like as a defensive minded combo guard, he could be an extremely good backup guard in an excellent team.

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Thabo Sefolosha
Mbah a Moute
Kevin Love
Rasheed Wallace
Jeff Foster

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 08:17:53 PM »

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I think Travis Outlaw would be perfect in Doc's system.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 08:18:53 PM »

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Geez... we have very different tastes when it comes to basketball players.

Gordon is an extremely undersized shooting-guard. A not very efficient volume scorer who takes jump-shots and can be a tremendous defensive liability.

Gomes is an hard-working guy without a NBA position: can't defend 3s or 4s.

Villanueva is one of those players than can drive you crazy. He's extremely inconsistent, lacks focus, doesn't defend. Poor man's Troy Murphy.

Rashard Lewis is obviously a good player and a very good jump-shooting big, but an overpaid one. He's, at best, average defensively and he's not a good shot-creator.

West, yes, I like as a defensive minded combo guard, he could be an extremely good backup guard in an excellent team.

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My picks:

Thabo Sefolosha
Mbah a Moute
Kevin Love
Rasheed Wallace
Jeff Foster

Rasheed Wallace has that same inconsistency. and Mbah a Moute i would love to have.

but for my guys i'm looking at players that if put into our system could improve on their shortcomings/ have an attitude adjustment by being around an experienced winning team.

Ray Allen was considered a defensive liability as well.

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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2009, 08:35:48 PM »

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Geez... we have very different tastes when it comes to basketball players.

Gordon is an extremely undersized shooting-guard. A not very efficient volume scorer who takes jump-shots and can be a tremendous defensive liability.

Gomes is an hard-working guy without a NBA position: can't defend 3s or 4s.

Villanueva is one of those players than can drive you crazy. He's extremely inconsistent, lacks focus, doesn't defend. Poor man's Troy Murphy.

Rashard Lewis is obviously a good player and a very good jump-shooting big, but an overpaid one. He's, at best, average defensively and he's not a good shot-creator.

West, yes, I like as a defensive minded combo guard, he could be an extremely good backup guard in an excellent team.

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My picks:

Thabo Sefolosha
Mbah a Moute
Kevin Love
Rasheed Wallace
Jeff Foster

Rasheed Wallace has that same inconsistency. and Mbah a Moute i would love to have.

but for my guys i'm looking at players that if put into our system could improve on their shortcomings/ have an attitude adjustment by being around an experienced winning team.

Ray Allen was considered a defensive liability as well.

There is the Rasheed Wallace inconsistency; than the Tony Allen/Charlie Villanueva inconsistency. Entirely different things. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bucks allowing Villanueva to walk away for nothing - and they are able to keep him for $4 millions or so, not exactly something that breaks the bank.

Ray Allen was wrongly considered a defensive liability. But the thing is that no system would give Gordon the additional 4 inches he needs.

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Sheed and Outlaw would make nice additions. Jeff Foster is another. Rasho would be a good cheap backup center.

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 09:31:08 PM »

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Ben Gordon wouldn't come here. Plus, with House and Marbury, we really don't have room for him. We have plenty of supplemental three point shooting from guards coming off the bench.

Rashard Lewis is not a realistic option simply because he's getting paid like a top 5 player and he's not worth one of the big 3 (MAYBE Ray but I still wouldn't pull the trigger).

Charlie V? At his size he does pose lots of matchup problems. He's like a worse version of Kevin Durant almost. I don't think the Bucks would give up on him so easy though. Even if they do not re-sign him for next year and beyond, the way I see it, he'd command too much money than what's feasible under the constraints the Celtics have to oblige to. After all, luxury tax issues are a greater concern with the economy in the shape it is in now.

D-West? Cleveland won't give him to us, unless they're getting Rondo or Perk which we should never even consider doing for one second.

Ryan Gomes? Minnesota really likes him, I doubt they give him up especially if all we're offering is TA and Scal.

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 09:34:15 PM »

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Both of the former celtics you mentioned I like as well, both were available last offseason and I really wish we could have landed one of them.

Theres plenty of players Id love to see in Green, but Im gonna stick to the ones that could be within reach (theyll be available soon).

Any of these players Id be extremely happy if we were able to land them.  Zaza Pachulia, Andre Miller (though Id doubt he'd want to come here to be a backup), Rasheed Wallace, Jarret Jack, David Lee, Matt Barnes, Shane Battier, Drew Gooden, and Jeff Foster.

These players wouldnt be my first choice but I wouldnt be disapointed if they came here...Chris Wilcox, Keith Bogans, Bobby Jackson, Rasho Nesterovic, Nenad Kristic, Channing Frye, Reggie Evans.

I know that turned into more of a FA wish list, so I guess if I could pick three players in the NBA (within reason ie. theyll be available soon and might want to sign with us) that I could put in a celtics uniform theyd be in order.....1. Kevin Durant (hes from my area) 2. John Salmons 3. Mehmet Okur.

I excluded Joe Smiths name from any of these lists out of spite.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 09:40:22 PM »

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Ben Gordon wouldn't come here. Plus, with House and Marbury, we really don't have room for him. We have plenty of supplemental three point shooting from guards coming off the bench.

Rashard Lewis is not a realistic option simply because he's getting paid like a top 5 player and he's not worth one of the big 3 (MAYBE Ray but I still wouldn't pull the trigger).

Charlie V? At his size he does pose lots of matchup problems. He's like a worse version of Kevin Durant almost. I don't think the Bucks would give up on him so easy though. Even if they do not re-sign him for next year and beyond, the way I see it, he'd command too much money than what's feasible under the constraints the Celtics have to oblige to. After all, luxury tax issues are a greater concern with the economy in the shape it is in now.

D-West? Cleveland won't give him to us, unless they're getting Rondo or Perk which we should never even consider doing for one second.

Ryan Gomes? Minnesota really likes him, I doubt they give him up especially if all we're offering is TA and Scal.


I dont think Steph will be back next year.  So Danny might be in the market for another backup PG if they dont think Pruitts up for the job.  However, Ben Gordons would just be a less efficient version of Eddie House on this team, so I dont think it makes too much sense.
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I think if we're going to make it realistic, we have to think of guys that wouldn't start over our core of Rondo, Pierce, Ray Allen, and Garnet.  Basically, some good bench players or a good center.

Sam Dalembert would be interesting to see how it would work out.
Brad Miller off the bench would be good.
Andre Miller behind Rondo
Mike Miller behind Rondo/Ray Allen
Jamal Crawford would be a great scorer off the bench
Nene would be a great starting center and PF
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Geez... we have very different tastes when it comes to basketball players.

Gordon is an extremely undersized shooting-guard. A not very efficient volume scorer who takes jump-shots and can be a tremendous defensive liability.

Gomes is an hard-working guy without a NBA position: can't defend 3s or 4s.

Villanueva is one of those players than can drive you crazy. He's extremely inconsistent, lacks focus, doesn't defend. Poor man's Troy Murphy.

Rashard Lewis is obviously a good player and a very good jump-shooting big, but an overpaid one. He's, at best, average defensively and he's not a good shot-creator.

West, yes, I like as a defensive minded combo guard, he could be an extremely good backup guard in an excellent team.

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My picks:

Thabo Sefolosha
Mbah a Moute
Kevin Love
Rasheed Wallace
Jeff Foster

Excellent list, although I don't know if we could slicker McHale again for Kevin Love. I'm already ready to retire his digits again for taking what he did for Garnett.

Love to have four of those five, and I'd take Rah-weed too for a one-year ring chase.
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i wasn't saying guys for next year or guys we should trade for, i was saying i liked these guys period.

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2009, 11:28:17 PM »

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well I mean unrealistically..but still the number one guy I'd like to see here is Shane Battier.

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