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Shut KG down again...
« on: March 26, 2009, 01:44:41 PM »

Offline ScoobyDoo

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I am not sure what is wrong with KG or what exactly the injury was that he had. However, probably like most of you, I have watched every Celtic game played for the last four years which obviously includes all the games since KG has been here.

Right now KG is not KG. He is not 100% and I don't think it is just because he hasn't played in a while or that it's a "wind" issue. Last year when he came back after injury he was tearing it up in short order. KG says he wants ot go more...but he'd say that if he just "lost" a leg.

If we are healthy, I think the chances of Orlando beating us in a seven game series because they have homecourt advantage are about equal to the world ending right now as I'm typing this. They can "barely" beat us with half a team. We win that series 4-1, 4-2 at worst.

The only team in the east I'm worried about beating us because they have homecourt is Cleveland.

Therefore, I'd shut KG down again for the rest of the season, give him another 3-4 weeks rest before the playoffs. Whatever he is right now, he isn't right, so what's the point?

Rest him now, let him recover more. If he needs some minor surgery or something and he will only be at 80% max the rest of this season, better he begins putting pressure on that injury a month from now than risking re-aggravating it more seriously right now. He does not look right. He is dragging that leg around.

The Magic have games @ Miami, Atlanta, Houston and Milwuakee left and Cleveland at home. We have Atlanta and Cleveland as the two biggest games left. If we grab the Atlanta game on Friday, we could win every game left accept maybe the Cleveland game for the rest of the season without KG. Which means we might still end up with #2 spot anyway and KG gets more rest.

But as I mentioned before, I am less than concerned about our ability to beat Orlando if they have homecourt if we are 100% healthy ( meaning we get at least Tony, KG and Leon back at full strength).

We are not catching LA or Cleveland at this point and even if we go 5-4 over the next nine games no one else is going to catch us, so we don't lose homecourt ot anyone we haven't already lost it to.

Play the crap out of Walker and Baby and everyone else, put the pressure on them now, let them continue growing.

Get KG healthy. ( 100% )

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Re: Shut KG down again...
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 01:46:01 PM »

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I think we should cryogenically freeze him after the season ends.

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: Shut KG down again...
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 01:51:24 PM »

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That's funny. But c'mon, seriously, do you think he looks at all like KG? When a guy like KG reaching and slapping at things rather than leaping and crashing into plays like he normally does, it usually menas something isn't right, he doesn't have his physical swagger/confidence, he's favoring something.

Obviously it's his leg and he doesn't look right to me. First couple games yes, last night, didn't look good at all to me.

Re: Shut KG down again...
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 01:55:37 PM »

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I've said in a few threads already...

But do you think if KG needed surgery we would have heard about it already... or would they just keep it "in-house" and try to get him as close to healthy as possible for the upcoming playoff run?


Re: Shut KG down again...
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 01:56:45 PM »

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That's funny. But c'mon, seriously, do you think he looks at all like KG? When a guy like KG reaching and slapping at things rather than leaping and crashing into plays like he normally does, it usually menas something isn't right, he doesn't have his physical swagger/confidence, he's favoring something.

Obviously it's his leg and he doesn't look right to me. First couple games yes, last night, didn't look good at all to me.

i think he doesnt have his confidence because he was just injured.

The doctors say he's fine. I trust them over blog reports, no disrespect intended. They are working him back slowly.

what should they do? shut him down till the playoffs and hope he gets his timing back in the first game?
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 01:59:31 PM »

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It looked to me as though KG was favoring his leg in the games he has been back.

Re: Shut KG down again...
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 02:09:45 PM »

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Have we thought of the possibility that KG will never get to 100% this season?  If that is in fact the case, and whatever he's struggling with will be something that will bother him the rest of the season, the best course of action, IMO, would be to slowly increase his minutes so that by the end of the season, he's back used to playing a full 30-35 minutes.

If rest doesn't cure what ails him, then another 3 weeks will just make him in worse shape, stamina-wise, going into the playoffs.  Not to mention the rust that he'll have to shake off.

Also, the Celtics lost the first three games of KG's return last year, so it took him and the team to get acclimated to his return then as well.

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 02:11:33 PM »

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I just think he's about as healthy as he's gonna get. No matter who we face first round, its probably gonna be a team we've split games with since christmas. KG needs to be healthy but he also needs to not be rusty. Doc has a plan, lets trust his championship ring.

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Re: Shut KG down again...
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 02:19:03 PM »

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Yeah Larbrd33 I know what you're saying and I suppose we would have heard about it probably. But I guess that's my point. By the look of him out there, wouldn't we be getting him healthier for the playoff run by giving him more rest now than seemingly re-aggravating what already put him out for a month before.

I hear you re the Doctors too crownsy and I basically agree. But he just doesn't seem right. If it were Ray Allen or Pierce kind of gingerly moving out there I'd be less worried. But with a personality like KG seems to be, he strikes me to be more like a little kid who can have these bad bumps and bruises but once they feel better it's like they forgot they ever got hurt. KG seems like that, like when he step onto the court the light switch goes off. So when he's favoring something or lumbering around, it doesn't seem likely it's just his confidence. I don't see that as fitting his personality.

I agree with you KUNg Powe but obviously hope Crownsy is right and it's just having confidence in his leg again.

Anyway, I'm no doctor or phsychologist but it just seems like he isn't right and if him sitting out now doesn't affect us losing anymore homecourt advantage than has laready been lost and can't be recovered, why not rest him more.

And Yeah, I do think someone like KG, at 100% can get his groove back quickly enough in the first round and by the second round be killing it again if he's healthy.    

Re: Shut KG down again...
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2009, 02:23:28 PM »

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If this is as healhty as he'll get this year, then I agree with you guys it is right to just keep playing him, let him get the rust off and re-gel with the team.

If rest was the answer, I'd defiantely shut him down again though.

These guys no far better than we. I'm just hoping to see a real break out game for him where he plays like 30 minutes, looks like KG and feels ok afterwards.

Let's hope so. We go as he goes.   

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2009, 02:51:44 PM »

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I think we should cryogenically freeze him after the season ends.

  Too bad they didn't think of this sooner. We could have gotten another 2-3 years out of him if Minny had prevented him from aging over the summer.

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2009, 03:29:13 PM »

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If this is as healhty as he'll get this year, then I agree with you guys it is right to just keep playing him, let him get the rust off and re-gel with the team.

If rest was the answer, I'd defiantely shut him down again though.

These guys no far better than we. I'm just hoping to see a real break out game for him where he plays like 30 minutes, looks like KG and feels ok afterwards.

Let's hope so. We go as he goes.   

I hope so too man, but as much as i think its a confidence thing, i also think there's truth in LAR's words. I don't think that leg is going to be right until it gets scoped at least. Something's rotten in denmark in that knee.
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Re: Shut KG down again...
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2009, 03:40:53 PM »

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Yeah Crownsy, we all hope for that I think. He's obviously not seriously, seriously injured or he wouldn't even be able to get on the court. But just out of curiosity, if it was a scope situation, doesn't that only take 4-6 weeks to heal? If that was the case, you could have done it asap and brought him back in the first playoff series. Alot of rust but a healthy KG could bet back into it within a week or two and by the second round.

Therefore, the fact they didn't do it, assuming it was something minor that would take 6 wks to heal, leaves me thinking/hoping maybe you're right Crownsy and it's just a confidence thing.

Does anyone know how long a minor scope takes to recover from?

Also, does anyone think we can get by Cleveland, the Lakers, Utah or San Antone ( I dont' even think about Orlando, we can beat them ), with KG at 70-80%?   

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2009, 03:42:21 PM »

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Part two, then...if not...then why not have scoped ( assuming six weeks ) and take your chances we could get through the first round without him and roll the dice on having him healthy for rounds 2-3 and beyond...?

alot of specualtion I know, but not much else to talk about right now.

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2009, 03:45:21 PM »

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I prefer the idea of taking it easy for the remainder of the season and getting prepared for the playoffs. Something tells me this team has a few more gears to go up, and come April 18th, they'll do so.