Doc calls out refs

[TrueGreen]

I also wonder if Doc isn't fishing for the intensity that this team has lost. Terrible, terrible defense last night. Late I can understand, given the situation. Early? Just unacceptable.

Not suprising to me at all, we haven't had that defensive swagger since KG went down. just look at the PPG we give up, 14 higher without him.


This pretty much proves that while tibs is a big part of our defense, KG is the main reason we are so good at it, not some master scheme. without our defensive QB in there, our defense is good at its best. guys still try to give effort, but guys are funnled the wrong way, mix ups go on, ect.

We need KG back there running the show at full strength ASAP, or we aren't going to ge ta chance to see CLEV.

The game was really over when Doc got thrown out. He just had enough. Salmons was mugging Pierce the whole game and had about 3 fouls called on him.
As to the defense, don't forget we lost Scals also. Our defense is a team defense and depends on everyone being on the same page. We now have people who aren't used to the defense and and many are playing in different positions. Our defense also depends on communication. In the Memphis game Powe was guarding Gasol, who was trying to go to the basket via the baseline. You could hear someone call out:  "Leon, you're on your own". Thus Leon knew he didn't have backup and maybe played the play differently because of that. (He did stop Gasol). The players now don't have that communication with all the people down.

[TrueGreen]

crownsy,

I can't agree with you.  Celtics were playing just fine without KG, until everyone else got injured.

The officiating stinks big time, everywhere.  As I recall, Mike Brown has been fined as well...

Actually, I think things went bad when Scals was lost.

[Cman]

The reason folks are complaining is that the officiating has gotten worse, not better.

Brick, I of course agree with you on this.  But I would love it if anyone had any statistical evidence of this....

[crownsy]

The reason folks are complaining is that the officiating has gotten worse, not better.

Brick, I of course agree with you on this.  But I would love it if anyone had any statistical evidence of this....

that would involve keep track of ref stats and allowing the media access to them after bad preformances, somethign you would only do if you had done something crazy like promise trasparency in the process after one of your officals was caught fixing games. 


seriously, NBA officating is a joke, and it hurts the leauges image imensly with the casual fan, but stern seems not to care and for some reason the media and most fans give him a pass for not digging into it, and just assume it was one guy despite a mountin of circimstatial evidance that was never followed up on thanks to stern.

[guava_wrench]

Good for Doc. We've seen some terrible reffing against us.

Why does Doc get fined but Mike Brown complains in the media and runs out to half court 25 times again if somebody breathes on Lebron and nothing?

What are you talking about? Brown got ejected for running to half court when mo williams got fouled.

[QuinielaBox]

I also wonder if Doc isn't fishing for the intensity that this team has lost. Terrible, terrible defense last night. Late I can understand, given the situation. Early? Just unacceptable.

Not suprising to me at all, we haven't had that defensive swagger since KG went down. just look at the PPG we give up, 14 higher without him.

This pretty much proves that while tibs is a big part of our defense, KG is the main reason we are so good at it, not some master scheme. without our defensive QB in there, our defense is good at its best. guys still try to give effort, but guys are funnled the wrong way, mix ups go on, ect.

We need KG back there running the show at full strength ASAP, or we aren't going to ge ta chance to see CLEV.

It ain't just KG.... were down Scalabrine, TA, Powe, BBD, Rondo is in and out. We're finding out that Stiffbury cannot defend my sister. Pierce and RA trying to carry the load is leading to turnovers and fast breaks for the opposition. Right now, we don't have the horses to compete. That and Jordan and Stern have an agenda to the refs to make sure the Celtics did not get to 70 in the 1st place.

[crownsy]

I also wonder if Doc isn't fishing for the intensity that this team has lost. Terrible, terrible defense last night. Late I can understand, given the situation. Early? Just unacceptable.

Not suprising to me at all, we haven't had that defensive swagger since KG went down. just look at the PPG we give up, 14 higher without him.

This pretty much proves that while tibs is a big part of our defense, KG is the main reason we are so good at it, not some master scheme. without our defensive QB in there, our defense is good at its best. guys still try to give effort, but guys are funnled the wrong way, mix ups go on, ect.

We need KG back there running the show at full strength ASAP, or we aren't going to ge ta chance to see CLEV.

It ain't just KG.... were down Scalabrine, TA, Powe, BBD, Rondo is in and out. We're finding out that Stiffbury cannot defend my sister. Pierce and RA trying to carry the load is leading to turnovers and fast breaks for the opposition. Right now, we don't have the horses to compete. That and Jordan and Stern have an agenda to the refs to make sure the Celtics did not get to 70 in the 1st place.

yea but we have plenty other bench players your sister could school on the perimiter. eddie house is awful, he gives effort but he isn't good. marbury isn't the problem, he's doign the same things eddie does, run around and try to bother shots.

KG being out is the huge issue, because the defense is used to him calling switches and where help is. Powe, perk and baby don't do this.

[RAcker]

Why are refs not fined?  And if they were for bad calls , shouldn't it be made public for tranparancy sake?  Get your head out of your cornhole, Stern!   

[twinbree]

What I don't understand is how the league doesn't do something about the calls that botched without a doubt like the 6th man basket or timeout call in the Clippers game or Baby's flagrant being downgraded.

Maybe if there some penalties for incompetence some of the refs will check their ego at the door and come out and do their jobs. Stern is clearly not interested in cleaning up the officiating and holding the refs accountable.

The officiating for the Celtics wasn't that bad at the beginning of the season but I think it started going south in the latter part of the 19 game streak and hasn't recovered since.

[burnin]

You can be sure that the officials will do everything in their power to help LeBron breeze through to the NBA finals.

Why would the NBA want Cleveland instead of Boston in the finals? Boston/LA = money money money. Last years finals attracted huge ratings, and the 2007 finals with LeBron had record low ratings. This whole conspiracy theory rubbish is just ridiculous.

[Brickowski]

You can be sure that the officials will do everything in their power to help LeBron breeze through to the NBA finals.

Why would the NBA want Cleveland instead of Boston in the finals? Boston/LA = money money money. Last years finals attracted huge ratings, and the 2007 finals with LeBron had record low ratings. This whole conspiracy theory rubbish is just ridiculous.

Wanna bet?  If LeBron and Kobe don't face each other in the finals, I promise I'll eat my favorite hat, which has a graphic of Edward Hopper's lighthouse.  The only question is how much biased officiating it will take.  The way Cleveland is playing, it may not take much.

[burnin]

You can be sure that the officials will do everything in their power to help LeBron breeze through to the NBA finals.

Why would the NBA want Cleveland instead of Boston in the finals? Boston/LA = money money money. Last years finals attracted huge ratings, and the 2007 finals with LeBron had record low ratings. This whole conspiracy theory rubbish is just ridiculous.

Wanna bet?  If LeBron and Kobe don't face each other in the finals, I promise I'll eat my favorite hat, which has a graphic of Edward Hopper's lighthouse.  The only question is how much biased officiating it will take.  The way Cleveland is playing, it may not take much.

If Kobe and LeBron meet each other in the finals it won't be due to officiating, it'll be because Boston couldn't muster a win in Cleveland in the eastern finals. I don't understand why people even follow the NBA if they think it's so corrupt.

[crownsy]

You can be sure that the officials will do everything in their power to help LeBron breeze through to the NBA finals.

Why would the NBA want Cleveland instead of Boston in the finals? Boston/LA = money money money. Last years finals attracted huge ratings, and the 2007 finals with LeBron had record low ratings. This whole conspiracy theory rubbish is just ridiculous.

Wanna bet?  If LeBron and Kobe don't face each other in the finals, I promise I'll eat my favorite hat, which has a graphic of Edward Hopper's lighthouse.  The only question is how much biased officiating it will take.  The way Cleveland is playing, it may not take much.

If Kobe and LeBron meet each other in the finals it won't be due to officiating, it'll be because Boston couldn't muster a win in Cleveland in the eastern finals. I don't understand why people even follow the NBA if they think it's so corrupt.

because i love basketball?

[dark_lord]

the refs suck and the nba enables their inconsistency.  the celts will just have to play the best ball they are capable of

[Schupac]

You can be sure that the officials will do everything in their power to help LeBron breeze through to the NBA finals.

Why would the NBA want Cleveland instead of Boston in the finals? Boston/LA = money money money. Last years finals attracted huge ratings, and the 2007 finals with LeBron had record low ratings. This whole conspiracy theory rubbish is just ridiculous.

Wanna bet?  If LeBron and Kobe don't face each other in the finals, I promise I'll eat my favorite hat, which has a graphic of Edward Hopper's lighthouse.  The only question is how much biased officiating it will take.  The way Cleveland is playing, it may not take much.

If Kobe and LeBron meet each other in the finals it won't be due to officiating, it'll be because Boston couldn't muster a win in Cleveland in the eastern finals. I don't understand why people even follow the NBA if they think it's so corrupt.

Because they've been fans for years and won't give up because the current management sucks?  Or in my case, because they just love to watch the game at such a high level, despite the fact that it has very glaring, and fixable flaws?


Brickowski.... what you said.  Normally I'd say the refs steamroll Cleveland into a finals appearance this year, but I don't think Cleveland will need it unless the Celts can get healthy.

Of course it could be like the Lakers in 2000 when they really didn't need any help from the refs to cruise, but they sure still got it.