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Re: should we sign guys for a 10 day contract?
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2009, 09:46:58 AM »

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We don't need to bring in someone else who doesn't know what he's doing. The only place a 10 day would help is to serve as a practice body, but again, it doesn't help when he won't know what's going on. The coaches can play in practice with the players that need work.

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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 09:49:45 AM »

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I'd love to see us pick up Derrick Byars, who could help on the wing while TA is out.

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Re: should we sign guys for a 10 day contract?
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2009, 10:21:26 AM »

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I'd love to see us pick up Derrick Byars, who could help on the wing while TA is out.

Antoine's too busy filming Pros vs. Joes right now, so I don't think he can make it.

w8.. is he on the joes?  ;D

Re: should we sign guys for a 10 day contract?
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2009, 10:34:14 AM »

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Only if we cut Mikki Moore.  Just kidding.  No i don't think we need to do that.  If the C's really think Moore is going to be in the playoff rotation I say keep out there as much as they need to until he uses his 6 fouls.  And use Walker and go small if we need to until Baby comes back.  I don't see any use in trying to teach someone our system who is only going to be here for 10 days.

Re: should we sign guys for a 10 day contract?
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 10:48:18 AM »

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POB is buried in the Raptors bench, behind a D-League call-up with a 10 day contract and Jake Voskuhl. He only plays in blowouts (where have I seen this before?). Doc was such a fool for not giving the kid a chance. And Nelson, the evil Nelson, with his unmitigated hostility towards 7fters. And now this guy Triano, is obviously another "POB hater".

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Anyway, the D-Leaguer who's playing ahead of POB was the guy I liked and whose signing I suggested here a few weeks ago, when he started playing in the NBADL: Pops Mensah-Bonsu, a former Mavs who I've followed in Europe and who brings incredible athleticism, great rebounding, the ability to run the floor like a guard and lots of energy (and thunderous dunks). He's a liability on other aspects of the game, especially on the defensive side (although he's a good shot-blocker), but I don't know if he's much worse than Moore at this point (and Pop can also hit the jumper from the top of the key at a decent rate). The Spurs signed him (meaning Coach Pop reads what I write here very carefully), then waived him to sign Gooden and Colangelo immediately signed him for the Raptors.

With Pops out of the picture, the only big man I can see who could be useful to an emergency would be Josh Davis. The guy is a veteran with NBA experience, once dropped like 20 points on us and plays hard every night. If one of our remaining bigs go down or the injured guys will have to stay out longer than expected, Josh would be my guy. Earl Barron is another possibility.

Byars is a scrub, he's not a NBA player. A D-League wing who impressed me was Othyus Jeffers. Very interesting player.
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Re: should we sign guys for a 10 day contract?
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2009, 10:50:03 AM »

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There's got to be a few tall stiffs in the D-league that could give us a few minutes.
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Re: should we sign guys for a 10 day contract?
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2009, 11:00:38 AM »

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Is Dwayne Jones on an NBA team at this point.  I would have much prefered him to Moore.

Re: should we sign guys for a 10 day contract?
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2009, 11:23:30 AM »

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Is Dwayne Jones on an NBA team at this point.  I would have much prefered him to Moore.

Really?  Dwayne Jones is not an NBA rotation player.  Moore is.  Moore is a veteran player who has proven he has at least a few NBA skills.  He is still learning the system, and it is going to take a little while.  I think some people are forgetting just how mediocre PJ was last year when he first got here.  He really didn't give the team much of anything until the Cleveland series.

As for 10 day contracts, if the C's are able to get an emergency roster exemption, I think they could absolutely use someone on a 10 day contract.  Maybe a D-league guy...or maybe go for a veteran like Antoine (I know, I know), or Stromile Swift.

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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2009, 11:27:54 AM »

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PJ hasn't played for almost an entire season when he arrived. Moore has been playing. And I liked what I saw from PJ, he was playing his customary good post defence and rebounding the ball.

Moore is playing exactly as he was playing in Sacramento, he doesn't have a lot more to show. Let's just hope he goes in a hot streak during the right time.

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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2009, 11:37:21 AM »

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PJ did start slow, but its because he hadn't been playing.  Moore may not know the plays but that shouldn't stop him from getting an occasional rebound as Dwayne Jones did very well.  I'd compare PJ's slow start to Marbury more than I would to Moore, because Moore is in shape and has been playing all year.

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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2009, 11:40:27 AM »

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PJ hasn't played for almost an entire season when he arrived. Moore has been playing. And I liked what I saw from PJ, he was playing his customary good post defence and rebounding the ball.

Moore is playing exactly as he was playing in Sacramento, he doesn't have a lot more to show. Let's just hope he goes in a hot streak during the right time.

Well, he also is being asked to do MUCH more than he was brought in here to do.  He was brought in to be in a platoon with Powe and Davis, when they need a little extra height off the bench.  Now all of a sudden he is being asked to be their 6th man.

I stand by my statement that he is still learning the system (mostly the defensive system).  But I think people are expecting too much from him.

The PJ role is not going to be filled by Moore this year.  It is going to mostly be filled by Davis, Powe, and Perkins (who are all significantly better than last year), with Moore just a supplement to that group.

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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2009, 11:48:51 AM »

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I will say this about Moore, he is clueless at times about how to play the brand of defense the Celtics play. He looks like a high schooler out there on the blitz off of picks, staying high and thin rather than getting low and creating a wide base for the player to run around. Too often he's just running smack right into the guy. Then he's sooo slow getting back to his proper rotational position that inevitably his man is hitting an open shot.

He is also lost underneath on the switches during a drive by an opponent. He's two steps too slow or just making it up as he goes along. He doesn't even appear to be very good at a simple foot shuffle to body a man driving to the basket towards the baseline rather than straight to the basket.

Say what you want about how long it took for PJ to get acclimated but his BBIQ was miles ahead of Moore and it is so easy to see.

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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2009, 12:27:13 PM »

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There's not much point to this unless you want to play the new guy a certain amount of minutes so that other guys don't get hurt or wear themselves out.  These guys presumably can't really help you win and I don't see why we would take development minutes away from our Bill Walkers and Pruitts.  If you absolutely know Pruitt won't be back next year, then maaayyybe you cut him and bring in another player, who may or may not be an NBDL guy. 

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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2009, 12:56:18 PM »

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