Celtics Should Go to Perk More Often

[Fafnir]

I think we go to him often enough. He turns the ball over a lot when he tries to create shots for himself. If he wants to score more he has to stop winding up for slams, and go at the offensive boards harder. Unless the match-up of is favorable or has been successful he shouldn't be posting up more than 3 times a game. Last night he did both, and ended up having a great offensive game (great game all around).

Perk's turnovers are not from his posting up. He turns the ball over on illegal screens and when he fumbles the ball on the catch, whether from a pass or rebound.

I do agree that we shouldn't force feed him the way Cleveland did Ben Wallace for some reason.

[ManUp]

I think we go to him often enough. He turns the ball over a lot when he tries to create shots for himself. If he wants to score more he has to stop winding up for slams, and go at the offensive boards harder. Unless the match-up of is favorable or has been successful he shouldn't be posting up more than 3 times a game. Last night he did both, and ended up having a great offensive game (great game all around).

Perk's turnovers are not from his posting up. He turns the ball over on illegal screens and when he fumbles the ball on the catch, whether from a pass or rebound.

I do agree that we shouldn't force feed him the way Cleveland did Ben Wallace for some reason.

When the floor isn't completely space he turns the ball over. He often gets stripped or turns into the help defenders when he  tries to do it himself. He's just not very good at recognizing when help is coming, and he's very slow to make his move. It seems to be that he's very easy to strip the ball from as well (especially with that wind up thing he does).

[Curley]

This is a great post.  I am not going to agree or disagree with it but what I love is that Perks offensive game has come along far enough for this discussion.  I remember cringing every time he got the ball.  Perk has worked his butt off and really has become a vital part of our team success!

[cordobes]

Is there already a "we should go to <insert non Big 3 player> more" thread for every member of the roster? I can't see why the team should go to Perkins more by design. Sometimes Perkins can be an offensive liability. He's not someone you can depend on to "go to". I'd like to see him more active on a consistent basis, guys of his size will always be able to score as long as they're crashing the glass and running the floor, that would be nice. Other than that, it's up to his teammates to recognize when he has a good look or a mismatch; up to him when he's feeling comfortable and confident enough to create a shot for him. It doesn't happen often enough to force the team to make the conscious effort of consistently giving him more touches.   

[xmuscularghandix]

Rondo needs to score more, he's been doing real good with the FT line jumpshot, his FTs, and him getting to the hole. he needs to take advantage of the lanes in KG's absense, see: the third quarter last night.

[Bankshot]

Rondo needs to score more, he's been doing real good with the FT line jumpshot, his FTs, and him getting to the hole. he needs to take advantage of the lanes in KG's absense, see: the third quarter last night.

Rondo AND Perk need to score more, especially that KG is out.  I think tonight is a good night to see if they can establish Perk in the post.  He's been on the last few games offensively, and they should ride him until he goes bad.

[CoachBo]

Is there already a "we should go to <insert non Big 3 player> more" thread for every member of the roster? I can't see why the team should go to Perkins more by design. Sometimes Perkins can be an offensive liability. He's not someone you can depend on to "go to". I'd like to see him more active on a consistent basis, guys of his size will always be able to score as long as they're crashing the glass and running the floor, that would be nice. Other than that, it's up to his teammates to recognize when he has a good look or a mismatch; up to him when he's feeling comfortable and confident enough to create a shot for him. It doesn't happen often enough to force the team to make the conscious effort of consistently giving him more touches.   

Well said. When Perkins learns that it's not a rule to put the ball on the floor before he makes an offensive move, then I'll think about calling his number. Not before.

[BillfromBoston]

Do people really have that short a memory span?

Perkins WAS getting the ball much more consistently before he injured his shoulder and subsequently lost his rhythm on the offensive side.

Perkins WAS putting the ball up quick and not bringing it down, just as he WAS remaining patient on his post up plays and drawing double teams after making 2 or 3 in a row.

The team lost him for a stretch and when he came back he just wasn't the same for a while. He looks to be getting his timing back a bit, so i'd expect the team to continue to feel it out with him and for Perkins to once again be an offensive option in the post once they feel he's back up to pre-injury form.

Boston clearly utilized Perk's low-post presence more this season, that shoulder just screwed everything up....if he can get back on track, the team will reward him accordingly...

[xmuscularghandix]

Rondo needs to score more, he's been doing real good with the FT line jumpshot, his FTs, and him getting to the hole. he needs to take advantage of the lanes in KG's absense, see: the third quarter last night.

Rondo AND Perk need to score more, especially that KG is out.  I think tonight is a good night to see if they can establish Perk in the post.  He's been on the last few games offensively, and they should ride him until he goes bad.

Perk is a bottom feeder, very much like Leon Powe. you wanna score? get the offense rebound and slam it down. i think BBD's Jumpshot does exactly what KG's does (maybe even more effective because the league still back off him!)

But Rondo can flourish with the wide open space, and if he misses that leaves our two best rebounders (Rondo,Perk) right there at the rim.

[CoachBo]

Perkins has done a nice job playing within limitations that he will likely never surmount. He's not going to be a scorer on the block. His job is to defend - which he's still not consistent enough at - rebound and change a few shots.
When he does that, he's an important piece of the puzzle.

[BillfromBoston]

Coaches poll ranked Perkins 2nd behind Nene in low post defense...for what its worth, that's pretty high praise..

[Bankshot]

Do people really have that short a memory span?

Perkins WAS getting the ball much more consistently before he injured his shoulder and subsequently lost his rhythm on the offensive side.

Perkins WAS putting the ball up quick and not bringing it down, just as he WAS remaining patient on his post up plays and drawing double teams after making 2 or 3 in a row.

The team lost him for a stretch and when he came back he just wasn't the same for a while. He looks to be getting his timing back a bit, so i'd expect the team to continue to feel it out with him and for Perkins to once again be an offensive option in the post once they feel he's back up to pre-injury form.

Boston clearly utilized Perk's low-post presence more this season, that shoulder just screwed everything up....if he can get back on track, the team will reward him accordingly...

Exactly!  When everyone in the starting lineup is producing the C's are really tough to beat.  They need to get back to that, like last night.  Keep it going, Perk!

[Spfldkid]

They should go to Perk more in the post, It will make problems for any other team, get their big men in foul trouble and develop another scoring threat, that we need. Doc has zero plays for big men,,,,ever watch San Antonio, they go to Tim Duncan on the post all the time...Perk also has shown a dependable 10-15 footer..He used it like a master against Yao Ming.....Besides, him being a threat on the block will open up for our shooters....the old "in and out" !!! But, Doc cannot see it, and it would be a surprise if he puts Walker on Lebron tonight....some people forget how uptight Doc is.....he didn't play anyone except 5 people before the big 3 came...and his major play then was "clear out and give the ball to PP"...oh ya, that is a
"play"   so they said it was a play when PP won the game with it against NJ, but no one said that when the same play failed against detriot....doc has no "plays" KG and the other players make this happen....

[Fan from VT]

Rondo needs to score more, he's been doing real good with the FT line jumpshot, his FTs, and him getting to the hole. he needs to take advantage of the lanes in KG's absense, see: the third quarter last night.

Rondo AND Perk need to score more, especially that KG is out.  I think tonight is a good night to see if they can establish Perk in the post.  He's been on the last few games offensively, and they should ride him until he goes bad.

Perk is a bottom feeder, very much like Leon Powe. you wanna score? get the offense rebound and slam it down. i think BBD's Jumpshot does exactly what KG's does (maybe even more effective because the league still back off him!(1))

But Rondo can flourish with the wide open space, and if he misses that leaves our two best rebounders (Rondo,Perk)(2) right there at the rim.

1. Are you serious? Other teams leave BBD wide open because they know that on Davis's best nights he's still only going to hit about 50% on those jumpers, usually worse. Truth be told, we as fans are happy with this because it's markedly better than what he was last year or earlier this year, but he should be burying a wide open mid-range jumper much more often than he does.  If you can play 5 on 4 defense, with the wost case consequence being giving up a shot that probably has about a 40% chance of going in, you do that.

2. KG and Powe might disagree.

[Fan from VT]

I get a kick out of reading his old draft bios:
most focus on his offense, and only mention his defense and rebounding as an afterthought. Funny how a player's role and training change over time.

http://www.nba.com/draft2003/profiles/PerkinsKendrick.html

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=220661

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/d05/tracker/player?playerId=18430