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Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2009, 10:22:06 AM »

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If Joe Smith gets bought out the Hornets should sign him. What a tandem he and Posey would be! Obviously, the Hornets would be unstoppable with those two at the helm.
The Hornets would make a push for Smith if he'd consider their offer. I doubt he'd accept less money than Cleveland is sure to offer though.

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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2009, 10:22:24 AM »

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Celtics do not want to see Joe Smith on the Cavs.  It gives them one more weapon to pull defenders from the basket giving Lebron more space to work.  

Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2009, 10:23:25 AM »

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Am I the only one here that could (or is it couldn't?) care less if Smith goes to the Cavs or not?

Joe Smith is way better than Mikki Moore, who we can all see adds nothing to our roster. So in the sense that we could have gotten Joe Smith if only we had waited longer, it is very disappointing to me.  

Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2009, 10:25:01 AM »

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Am I the only one here that could (or is it couldn't?) care less if Smith goes to the Cavs or not?

Joe Smith is way better than Mikki Moore, who we can all see adds nothing to our roster. So in the sense that we could have gotten Joe Smith if only we had waited longer, it is very disappointing to me.  
We might have gotten him. He very well could have said that he'd go to whichever of the two teams Bos/Cle offered him the most money through back channels. At which point Boston realized that Cleveland has more MLE money to spend and got the next best alternative.

Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2009, 10:25:47 AM »

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Am I the only one here that could (or is it couldn't?) care less if Smith goes to the Cavs or not?

Joe Smith is way better than Mikki Moore, who we can all see adds nothing to our roster. So in the sense that we could have gotten Joe Smith if only we had waited longer, it is very disappointing to me.  

While I wouldn't say that Moore adds "nothing" -- and it's too early to say that, one way or the other -- I do think that he's no better than BBD or Powe.  I think we should have waited, as well, because Smith is just a much better player.

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Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2009, 10:25:55 AM »

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Am I the only one here that could (or is it couldn't?) care less if Smith goes to the Cavs or not?

Joe Smith is way better than Mikki Moore, who we can all see adds nothing to our roster. So in the sense that we could have gotten Joe Smith if only we had waited longer, it is very disappointing to me.  



To put it bluntly, Michael Jordan cannot even hold Joe Smith's jockstrap.

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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2009, 10:33:05 AM »

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Am I the only one here that could (or is it couldn't?) care less if Smith goes to the Cavs or not?

Joe Smith is way better than Mikki Moore, who we can all see adds nothing to our roster. So in the sense that we could have gotten Joe Smith if only we had waited longer, it is very disappointing to me.  



To put it bluntly, Michael Jordan cannot even hold Joe Smith's jockstrap.

Am I the only one who thinks the sarcastic strawman arguments about Smith, Posey et all are getting old?

Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2009, 10:33:39 AM »

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Friday, February 27, 2009
New info on Smith
I was told late Friday night that talks have started on a buyout of Joe Smith's contract in Oklahoma City.

The negotiations have just started. It has to be completed by Sunday in order for Smith to be added to the Cavs' playoff roster.

The Cavs have about $5 million remaining of their mid-level exception.

Another big man is needed by the Cavs.

Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2009, 10:34:52 AM »

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If Joe Smith gets bought out the Hornets should sign him. What a tandem he and Posey would be! Obviously, the Hornets would be unstoppable with those two at the helm.

The only thing that could make them even scarier is if they got PJ back also

(note the sarcasm).

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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2009, 10:36:41 AM »

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Am I the only one here that could (or is it couldn't?) care less if Smith goes to the Cavs or not?

Joe Smith is way better than Mikki Moore, who we can all see adds nothing to our roster. So in the sense that we could have gotten Joe Smith if only we had waited longer, it is very disappointing to me.  

While I wouldn't say that Moore adds "nothing" -- and it's too early to say that, one way or the other -- I do think that he's no better than BBD or Powe.  I think we should have waited, as well, because Smith is just a much better player.

The one thing that worries me about Moore in the playoffs is his strength. his hands also seemed a little questionable last night.

but the bigger thing is strength.

he does play hard, though. I don't know. I don't want to harp on this, but i just never understood the argument that Smith might not get bought out. They already traded the guy once....

anyway, let's hope Moore turns out to be the better signing....

Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2009, 10:37:01 AM »

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Had Joe Smith been wanting to come to Boston, and been really optimistic about getting the buyout done, he would have let one of the big 3 know that so that we would have waited for him. Had we not signed Mikki Moore and Joe Smith either didn't get bought out or went to Cleveland for more money everyone would have been complaining that DA did nothing like the Posey situation. From what I have seen so far Mikki has improved our depth at the big spots and plays with the same type of energy and hustle that fits right into what we do. Yes I would have preferred Joe Smith, but the gap isn't big enough to have taken the risk. I like what we have here and when we get KG and Scal back we will have a lot of depth and talent, and a lot of options for matchup advantages.

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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2009, 10:37:58 AM »

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Am I the only one here that could (or is it couldn't?) care less if Smith goes to the Cavs or not?

Joe Smith is way better than Mikki Moore, who we can all see adds nothing to our roster. So in the sense that we could have gotten Joe Smith if only we had waited longer, it is very disappointing to me.  

While I wouldn't say that Moore adds "nothing" -- and it's too early to say that, one way or the other -- I do think that he's no better than BBD or Powe.  I think we should have waited, as well, because Smith is just a much better player.

Maybe too early, but early returns are weak from what I see.  We need guys who can rebound, play defense against guys like Gasol and Varajao, and can catch the ball once in a while. I count three strikes against MM on these attributes. I had no idea his hands were so bad, either, negating the 2nd unit dishing skills of Stephon.  I mean, Moore makes Mark Blount look like Varitek.  I am very disappointed so far.

Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2009, 10:40:28 AM »

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The main reason that Joe Smith is a more serious concern for Cle is because of the Wallace injury.  Joe Smith does not make them better, only would make them nearly whole again.  They may not even use him on the active roster in the playoffs if big Ben was back and ready to play.

We signed Mikki but I guess could have waited for Joe and maybe got nothing.  Mikki is not going to be a game changer, that is for sure but you know, PJ Brown wasn't either.  PJ was a smart player who had lost a step and fouled too much.  Mikki can give us what PJ gave us and Marbury will give us quite a bit more than Cassell gave us so we are actually in pretty good shape as compared to last year.

Any one of the top teams (Cle, LA, Orl, even NO) could win it all if they get healthy and hot at the right time.  I think the C's are still in very good shape, much better in fact now that we have added Mikki and Marbury.

Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2009, 10:42:02 AM »

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Had Joe Smith been wanting to come to Boston, and been really optimistic about getting the buyout done, he would have let one of the big 3 know that so that we would have waited for him. Had we not signed Mikki Moore and Joe Smith either didn't get bought out or went to Cleveland for more money everyone would have been complaining that DA did nothing like the Posey situation. From what I have seen so far Mikki has improved our depth at the big spots and plays with the same type of energy and hustle that fits right into what we do. Yes I would have preferred Joe Smith, but the gap isn't big enough to have taken the risk. I like what we have here and when we get KG and Scal back we will have a lot of depth and talent, and a lot of options for matchup advantages.

yeah, but Smith coming here also would have kept him from going to CLE. so the effect is double.

CLE would then have a  huge hole in their front court and no way to fill it...

Re: Joe Smith back to CLE?
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2009, 10:44:48 AM »

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Am I the only one here that could (or is it couldn't?) care less if Smith goes to the Cavs or not?

Joe Smith is way better than Mikki Moore, who we can all see adds nothing to our roster. So in the sense that we could have gotten Joe Smith if only we had waited longer, it is very disappointing to me.  

While I wouldn't say that Moore adds "nothing" -- and it's too early to say that, one way or the other -- I do think that he's no better than BBD or Powe.  I think we should have waited, as well, because Smith is just a much better player.

Maybe too early, but early returns are weak from what I see.  We need guys who can rebound, play defense against guys like Gasol and Varajao, and can catch the ball once in a while. I count three strikes against MM on these attributes. I had no idea his hands were so bad, either, negating the 2nd unit dishing skills of Stephon.  I mean, Moore makes Mark Blount look like Varitek.  I am very disappointed so far.

i'm a little nervous based on what i saw last night. i think he'll be okay and help us in the regular season, but he's gonna get eaten alive by guys like Varejao in the playoffs. he is so skinny.

which is why it is even more important to get home court IMO...