Could Eddie House be a possible trade chip?

[Jon]

Not that I think that House will be traded, but can all the people telling me how "untouchable" Eddie House is please explain to me how he's going to get any PT in the playoffs if Marbury is here?  I agree with the notion that House cannot be traded without another PG coming on (I don't trust Gabe yet); however, I don't see how anyone sees him playing the 2 in the playoffs.  It may work in the regular season against inferior teams, but when playoff rotations tighten and we start seeing teams in consecutive games, good teams with good wingmen (read, pretty much everyone we will be playing) will destroy House defensively if we play him at the 2. 

[jdpapa3]

Someone already ended this thread earlier with the tidbit that Eddie could waive any trade....there's nothing more to say.

[Steve Weinman]

I'd consider it if LeBron was coming our way in return.  But at the same time, I'd really hate to give such an important piece to a conference rival (although there is a case to be made that they might be less of a threat sans LeBron).


 

Yes, tongue is planted firmly in cheek as I indicate that my undying love for Eddie is blind and mostly irrational.  And I'm okay with that.

-sw

[LarBrd33]

yeah he'd probably have to be moved if we were trying to bring in a guy making a lot of money.

[wdleehi]

At this point, House is worth more on the Celtics bench then he would bring back in the trade.

[Toine43]

Never!!! 

[guava_wrench]

I think if the C's can get Marbury that House is expendable.  The catch, however is twofold.  First, will Marbury be bought out today or tomorrow?  Probably not.  So, then can Ainge accurately project that Marbury gets bought out and comes here?  That'd be tough, unless he really has some inside information.  And two, we'd have to persuade someone to take Eddie.  Honestly, he really has little worth in this trade market.  No contender is going to want him, because they aren't going to want to give up anything of value to the C's.  No team out of the playoffs will want him because he doesn't offer anything for the future or in salary relief.  So, while I think that Eddie's expendable, I don't see how he helps us by trading him.

And for those of you who think he's too valuable as our "backup 2," how exactly is that going to work in the playoffs?  Is he going to guard Joe Johnson, LeBron James, Rip Hamilton, and Kobe Bryant when Pierce is on the bench?  I don't think so.  If Marbury is in and Tony Allen makes it back for the playoffs, House isn't going to get off the bench. 

Lebron doesn't play the 2. Kobe and Joe Johnson start. The will sit on the bench, just like Pierce.

The Celtics aren't the only team the doesn't play their starters 48 minutes.

This should be obvious.

[jimmehx]

Definitely not. I don't really understand the logic of trading a reliable bench player to POSSIBLY improve our bench. He's our scoring on the 2nd unit especially with TAllen out now. I would never trade him.

[Kiorrik]

My sincere apologies in advance for this post, because I love contradictions and I'm going to be as contradictory as I can here.

Setting my contradiction up, I do not like Eddie House. It's nothing personal, but I just don't like the way he handles the ball. I know he's not Ray Allen, he doesn't *have* to handle it as well as him, but I still don't like him for that particular reason.

That said, I do *not* want to see him traded because of a great many other reasons:

- he's instant off-the-bench offense;
something we need very badly, since our bench is mediocre at best,
- our best outside threat;
there are teams that we just can not beat in the paint: enter Eddie, his off-the-ball movement, his catch & shoot, he's brilliant,
- his swagger;
Eddie is verbal. Even when he's on the bench, he talks, he cheers, he brings energy. That's something we definitely need.

Trading him would be a loss, perhaps as big as losing Posey was to us in the beginning of this season, in my humble opinion.

[cordobes]

I think if the C's can get Marbury that House is expendable.  The catch, however is twofold.  First, will Marbury be bought out today or tomorrow?  Probably not.  So, then can Ainge accurately project that Marbury gets bought out and comes here?  That'd be tough, unless he really has some inside information.  And two, we'd have to persuade someone to take Eddie.  Honestly, he really has little worth in this trade market.  No contender is going to want him, because they aren't going to want to give up anything of value to the C's.  No team out of the playoffs will want him because he doesn't offer anything for the future or in salary relief.  So, while I think that Eddie's expendable, I don't see how he helps us by trading him.

And for those of you who think he's too valuable as our "backup 2," how exactly is that going to work in the playoffs?  Is he going to guard Joe Johnson, LeBron James, Rip Hamilton, and Kobe Bryant when Pierce is on the bench?  I don't think so.  If Marbury is in and Tony Allen makes it back for the playoffs, House isn't going to get off the bench. 

Lebron doesn't play the 2. Kobe and Joe Johnson start. The will sit on the bench, just like Pierce.

The Celtics aren't the only team the doesn't play their starters 48 minutes.

This should be obvious.

See things this way: you're playing Orlando. One of our starting swingmen gets in early foul trouble. Who exactly are you going to have out there? Eddie House guarding Hedo or Pietrus? Or even Courtney Lee? Or Cleveland. Is he going to guard Pavlovic, is that it (assuming Cleveland doesn't land another wing till the trade deadline)? Then one of your starting wings is Ray Allen, who isn't big enough to guard some SFs, like Hedo or James.

You can afford to have extremely undersized 2guards like House when your PG is big enough to defend SGs (see the KH-BG tandem in Chicago). Rondo is not one of those point-guards though.

To sum it up: when your primary wing backup has the size of a PG (and not a big one), you're in deep trouble.

ETA: I don't think House is expendable with or without Marbury though. We need his outside shooting badly. House is only expendable if we get another good outside shooter who's good enough on other aspects of the game to play.

[ToppersBsktball10]

well with TA out and if we get marbury then thats a killer backcourt for the bench

[Eja117]

House has an Early Bird restriction that allows him to waive any trade this year, so, no.

Wow. Why does he have that? So he'd sign? I thought that was fairly unusual. Also you could play hardball with him and tell him you'd waive him or not play him, but if he can do that then I could see how that could make trading him a lot harder.

Plus Marbury has shown us that he's not totally ready yet

[Chris]

House has an Early Bird restriction that allows him to waive any trade this year, so, no.

Wow. Why does he have that? So he'd sign? I thought that was fairly unusual. Also you could play hardball with him and tell him you'd waive him or not play him, but if he can do that then I could see how that could make trading him a lot harder.

Plus Marbury has shown us that he's not totally ready yet

Any player who resigns with a team for 1 year (his second year is an option), has the right to veto trades, since a trade would mean he loses his Bird or Early Bird Rights.  Its actually pretty common, just rarely comes into play.

[cordobes]

House has an Early Bird restriction that allows him to waive any trade this year, so, no.

Wow. Why does he have that? So he'd sign? I thought that was fairly unusual. Also you could play hardball with him and tell him you'd waive him or not play him, but if he can do that then I could see how that could make trading him a lot harder.

Plus Marbury has shown us that he's not totally ready yet

Hmmm... odd bump. First, the trade deadline is gone, you can't trade him anymore even if he agreed. Second, that restriction is not unusual at all. It's mandatory, there's no way you can escape it, as House signed a 1 year extension and if he got traded he'd loose his Bird rights.

[Eja117]

House has an Early Bird restriction that allows him to waive any trade this year, so, no.

Wow. Why does he have that? So he'd sign? I thought that was fairly unusual. Also you could play hardball with him and tell him you'd waive him or not play him, but if he can do that then I could see how that could make trading him a lot harder.

Plus Marbury has shown us that he's not totally ready yet

Hmmm... odd bump. First, the trade deadline is gone, you can't trade him anymore even if he agreed. Second, that restriction is not unusual at all. It's mandatory, there's no way you can escape it, as House signed a 1 year extension and if he got traded he'd loose his Bird rights.

Well the thread started before that, but we could trade him after the season and he couldn't stop it then I guess, right?